Talk:Precious metals equity

I added this page but don't know much on the subject, except that its different than gold and its not on the wiki now, so I took the liberty to add a new page and add to alternative/asset class templates. Do any experts want to start this page? Mikep 21:27, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Fund liquidation
The Global X Pure Gold Miners ETF (NYSE: GGGG) was liquidated on September 19, 2014: CNPF + GGGG Liquidation Press release --LadyGeek 22:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Data research
I have revised the historical data citations, as the existing links were broken. The updated links represent a general search. More work is needed. --LadyGeek 22:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I just noticed that Barry Barnitz has revised the spreadsheet tabular data for 2014. I updated the CAGR and statistics sections for 2014, which should complete the spreadsheet.


 * What is the data source for the Gold Equity and Gold columns, as I updated the information on the page from 2012 to 2014 ("The table below provides CRSP data for long term returns (courtesy of Ken French [2]), for U.S. gold mining stocks from 1965 - 2014."). Is this correct?

--LadyGeek 04:52, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Details for data:


 * For gold returns, see Historical gold prices for 200 years since 1792, onlygold.
 * From Kenneth French, gold equity stocks at Data Library, the spreadsheet download for 48 Industry Portfolios.
 * For GDM, recent returns gleaned from GDX Market Vectors Gold Miners ETF
 * For MSCI ACWI Select Gold (Net) and MSCI ACWI Select Silver (Net), the pdf download factsheets from MSCI factsheet search --Blbarnitz 08:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

10 year T-bond return
I am trying to derive the 10-year T-bond returns directly from the US Fed interest rate data. I understand that the T-bond rates are not annual return, so I'd like to validate my results against the wiki's source: Historical Returns (Damodaran Online) which states:

"The treasury bill rate is a 3-month rate and the trreasury bond is the constant maturity 10-year bond, but the treasury bond return includes coupon and price appreciation. It will not match the treasury bond rate each period."

I have downloaded the spreadsheet and gotten to the "T. Bond return" tab which explains how to calculate return from the interest rate (Column C). The formula is calculating the present value of an annuity, which I will dig into further.

I assume the "T.Bond rate" (column B) should match the Fed interest rate, which I found here: FRB: H.15 Release--Selected Interest Rates--Historical Data, then --> Treasury constant maturities --> 10-year --> Annual. However, it does not match Column B. What am I missing?


 * The annual Tbond returns from Damodaran, similar to S&P, gold equity, and gold returns, are total returns--Blbarnitz 08:36, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

--LadyGeek 03:15, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

S&P 500 return
The S&P 500 return is here: S&P 500® - S&P Dow Jones Indices, Additional Info drop-down --> Monthly and Annual Returns, which includes both price and total return. --LadyGeek 04:21, 2 November 2015 (UTC)