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2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 3:56 pm
by RandomGuyOnInternet
Bogleheads,
I mistakenly increased by HSA contribution amount one pay period too early in late 2022 to meet the higher 2023 limits. This resulted in me increasing my contribution amount for my last 2022 contribution. Consequently, I contributed $7303 to the HSA in 2022. The funds are still in my cash account. Appreciate advice on how I can rectify this situation. Thanks.
RandomGuy
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:00 pm
by Makefile
On 2022 Form 5329, you will be charged a 6% penalty on $3 which rounds to zero.
For 2023, contribute $3 short of the annual limit. You will file another 2023 Form 5329 on which the 2022 over-contribution and 2023 under-contribution will cancel out for all future years.
Alternatively, you could try and have the HSA provider return the $3 as an overcontribution, but it likely comes with a $25 or $50 processing fee.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:01 pm
by RandomGuyOnInternet
Makefile,
Great advice. Thank you.
RandomGuy
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:02 pm
by rivercrosser
When I retired and later on went on medicare my company put the usual yearly amount in my HSA. It was $121.00 more than I was eligible for. Called Optum and they steered me towards the right form. Didn't charge me anything. They also sent a form at tax time to report the $121.00 plus a few cents interest on my taxes.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:05 pm
by nalor511
I've never heard of a fee for removal of excess contribution. But shorting next year's contribution by $3 is easy
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:15 pm
by rivercrosser
nalor511 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:05 pm
I've never heard of a fee for removal of excess contribution. But shorting next year's contribution by $3 is easy
Yeah, shouldn't be a problem. I had to remove my excess contribution because I was no longer eligible to contribute.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
by RandomGuyOnInternet
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:54 pm
by AnEngineer
RandomGuyOnInternet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
Maybe take this as an opportunity to switch to a better HSA provider.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:00 pm
by Weathering
HSA bank sent me a letter due to overcontribution. Recommended I either withdraw it (form #1) or have them add it to 2023 contributions (form#2).
I’ll be sending in form#2
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:22 pm
by Makefile
AnEngineer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:54 pm
RandomGuyOnInternet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
Maybe take this as an opportunity to switch to a better HSA provider.
Since the OP mentions pay periods, this is likely an employer-bundled HSA and the OP saved $105.85 last year in Medicare tax (or $171.55 if subject to Additional Medicare Tax) by using it.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:09 pm
by AnEngineer
Makefile wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:22 pm
AnEngineer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:54 pm
RandomGuyOnInternet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
Maybe take this as an opportunity to switch to a better HSA provider.
Since the OP mentions pay periods, this is likely an employer-bundled HSA and the OP saved $105.85 last year in Medicare tax (or $171.55 if subject to Additional Medicare Tax) by using it.
You can still transfer the funds and withdraw the excess from there. While you may want to contribute via payroll, there's no need to keep the funds there.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:13 pm
by Makefile
AnEngineer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:09 pm
Makefile wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 9:22 pm
AnEngineer wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:54 pm
RandomGuyOnInternet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
Maybe take this as an opportunity to switch to a better HSA provider.
Since the OP mentions pay periods, this is likely an employer-bundled HSA and the OP saved $105.85 last year in Medicare tax (or $171.55 if subject to Additional Medicare Tax) by using it.
You can still transfer the funds and withdraw the excess from there. While you may want to contribute via payroll, there's no need to keep the funds there.
I agree, and that's what I do, although I do it as a once per 12 months indirect rollover, as trustee-to-trustee transfers out get docked with a fee too.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:15 pm
by 400401402
The 6% penalty is levied each year the excess contribution remains in HSA. So this excess contribution of $3 needs to be withdrawn. I don;t believe contributing $3 less next year will correct this mistake.
Please don't consider this a legal/financial advice.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 11:29 pm
by whodidntante
400401402 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:15 pm
The 6% penalty is levied each year the excess contribution remains in HSA. So this excess contribution of $3 needs to be withdrawn. I don;t believe contributing $3 less next year will correct this mistake.
Please don't consider this a legal/financial advice.
We'd have all been sued by now if people took our posts as professional comments. Hmmm. Wonder if this dune buggy forum software will let me add a three page legal disclaimer as my signature? One line is fine because my keyboard has a semi colon key.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:00 am
by AnEngineer
400401402 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:15 pm
The 6% penalty is levied each year the excess contribution remains in HSA. So this excess contribution of $3 needs to be withdrawn. I don;t believe contributing $3 less next year will correct this mistake.
Reducing the following year's contribution doesn't avoid the initial 6% excise tax, but as i recall it does keep that tax from being assessed year after year, as an alternative to withdrawing the excess contribution.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:08 pm
by spankasmurf
AnEngineer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2023 7:00 am
400401402 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:15 pm
The 6% penalty is levied each year the excess contribution remains in HSA. So this excess contribution of $3 needs to be withdrawn. I don;t believe contributing $3 less next year will correct this mistake.
Reducing the following year's contribution doesn't avoid the initial 6% excise tax, but as i recall it does keep that tax from being assessed year after year, as an alternative to withdrawing the excess contribution.
Personal experience - this is correct.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:06 pm
by passive101
I recently did this by $200ish dollars. I called Fidelity and since it was still in the cash account they simply moved it on their end to the 2023 year. I won’t have to fill out any forms of any kind. I’d call them directly and tell them about it. Maybe they can also do the same thing and just move those $3 to 2023 and avoid any headaches.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:20 am
by TropikThunder
400401402 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:15 pm
The 6% penalty is levied each year the excess contribution remains in HSA. So this excess contribution of $3 needs to be withdrawn.
The penalty is $0, so I don’t really see much urgency.
Re: 2022 HSA Overfunded by $3 - Next Steps
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:37 am
by Contador314
RandomGuyOnInternet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 12:54 pm
I can confirm that HSA bank charges a $25 administration fee for removal of excess contributions.
RandomGuy
If all your contributions were through payroll I would ask your employer to fix it. They can remove the funds and classify it as a correction(it happened to me by error one year - very frustrating). You wont be charged, maybe your employer will. I would say thats on them however, as they should have capped your max contribution. Ive done payroll for years and that is easy to set up and not asking much of your employer.
If you made contributions outside of payroll they would have no way of knowing, so that would be on you.