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Soap for hand washing dishes

Post by AAA » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am

This is definitely in the category of first world problems, but maybe you can help to resolve a domestic issue. For years, my wife had been using a plain, unscented bar of soap to do our dishes. I did not think that such a hand/body soap was appropriate for dish washing, because it wasn't designed to rinse off of the dishes well. I finally emailed the soap manufacturer, and they did not recommend using their bar soap to wash dishes. So I found a natural liquid dish soap that she was happy with - for a while - but now she wants to go back to using a bar soap, mainly as a matter of personal preference. Any clarification of this issue would be appreciated. Does anyone know of a bar soap that would be appropriate, or even specifically designed, for dishwashing? Thanks.

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Post by PFInterest » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:13 am

AAA wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am
This is definitely in the category of first world problems, but maybe you can help to resolve a domestic issue. For years, my wife had been using a plain, unscented bar of soap to do our dishes. I did not think that such a hand/body soap was appropriate for dish washing, because it wasn't designed to rinse off of the dishes well. I finally emailed the soap manufacturer, and they did not recommend using their bar soap to wash dishes. So I found a natural liquid dish soap that she was happy with - for a while - but now she wants to go back to using a bar soap, mainly as a matter of personal preference. Any clarification of this issue would be appreciated. Does anyone know of a bar soap that would be appropriate, or even specifically designed, for dishwashing? Thanks.
yes i do. its the soap your wife wants to use since you are not washing the dishes.

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Post by BUBear29 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:29 am

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Post by GUtiger » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:56 am

PFInterest wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:13 am
AAA wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am
This is definitely in the category of first world problems, but maybe you can help to resolve a domestic issue. For years, my wife had been using a plain, unscented bar of soap to do our dishes. I did not think that such a hand/body soap was appropriate for dish washing, because it wasn't designed to rinse off of the dishes well. I finally emailed the soap manufacturer, and they did not recommend using their bar soap to wash dishes. So I found a natural liquid dish soap that she was happy with - for a while - but now she wants to go back to using a bar soap, mainly as a matter of personal preference. Any clarification of this issue would be appreciated. Does anyone know of a bar soap that would be appropriate, or even specifically designed, for dishwashing? Thanks.
yes i do. its the soap your wife wants to use since you are not washing the dishes.
+1.

If she prefers at some point to switch back to liquid we like this one: Puracy Natural Liquid Hand Soap Refill.

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Post by NotWhoYouThink » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:57 am

You don't use soap to wash dishes, you use detergent. It's not the same thing.

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Re: Soap for hand washing dishes

Post by AAA » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am

PFInterest wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:13 am
yes i do. its the soap your wife wants to use since you are not washing the dishes.
Bad assumption. I often do the dishes.

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Re: Soap for hand washing dishes

Post by Dottie57 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am

I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.

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Post by BanquetBeer » Sat Aug 18, 2018 10:14 am

Possible to use a brush or scrub pad if she wants something to hold? We use the dishwasher so whatever we use to rinse fat/food debris off doesn’t matter. I’d prefer to do more up front than clean dishwasher disposal or deal with rewash.

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Post by jharkin » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:01 am

Dottie57 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am
I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.
+1 Dawn has got to be the best soap ever invented. Also works wonders for cleaning prescription eyeglasses.

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Post by Turbo29 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:13 am

jharkin wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:01 am
Dottie57 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am
I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.
+1 Dawn has got to be the best soap ever invented. Also works wonders for cleaning prescription eyeglasses.
I used to buy the cheapo liquid dish soap but over a year ago got a bottle of Dawn on sale. It is so concentrated that I still haven't gone through it. I would venture to say that the cost per use is actually less for Dawn than the "no-name" brands. Plus, the Dawn actually cleans.

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Post by squirm » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:16 am

i like Palmolive, soft on my hands and does the job...otherwise my skin cracks.

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Post by ResearchMed » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:16 am

Turbo29 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:13 am
jharkin wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:01 am
Dottie57 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am
I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.
+1 Dawn has got to be the best soap ever invented. Also works wonders for cleaning prescription eyeglasses.
I used to buy the cheapo liquid dish soap but over a year ago got a bottle of Dawn on sale. It is so concentrated that I still haven't gone through it. I would venture to say that the cost per use is actually less for Dawn than the "no-name" brands. Plus, the Dawn actually cleans.
Another vote for Dawn.

It's not a fake about it being used for animals rescued from oil spills.

Also works on a short haired cat; gets 'em nice and fluffy/soft.

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Post by Rupert » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:35 am

Detergent is far superior for cleaning dishes than soap. It leaves less residue on the dishes and on the inside of your pipes. But if your wife insists, I suggest she use Dr. Bronner's pure castile bar soap for the job. If I were you, I'd continue to use liquid detergent when I washed the dishes. (If you respect her preference, she should respect yours). Although I keep some Dawn around the house for random cleaning jobs (it really is a wonder substance), I prefer Seventh Generation natural dish liquid for hand-washing dishes. It doesn't dry my hands out as much as Dawn and other brands.
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Post by squirm » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:40 am

is liquid ivory the same as bar ivory? can she use that?

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Post by pannkake » Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:42 am

I use Costco environmentally friendly dish soap, and, I dispense it with a foam pump that dilutes it about 10:1 with water. A pump or two is the right amount of detergent to clean things without using too much or dealing with a giant bottle. Plus this system is good to my hands and I don't have to wear gloves to do dishes anymore.

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Post by heartwood » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:38 pm

yet another vote for Dawn. We used Palmolive for years and they seem to have changed the formula several years back and it no longer foamed or cleaned well. We tried Dawn and would never go back. A little harder to find but Dawn Platinum Foaming in a pump dispenser is amazing. A little dab seems to last for so many items. We use it at our condo. Unfortunately our home kitchen sink has an installed pump.

https://www.target.com/p/dawn-ultra-pla ... A-13044216

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Post by Grasshopper » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:00 pm

+1 Dr Bronner’s I use the liquid that I dilute and use in a spray bottle.

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Post by rooms222 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:06 pm

Relevant article about Dr. Bronner's bar soap for dishes. http://gdonna.com/living-like-the-past/ ... shes-1661/

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Post by NotWhoYouThink » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:14 pm

Zest? It was developed for use in areas with hard water because soap film is especially bad with hard water. They don't really say it's not soap, but it's not. It's detergent.

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Post by JaneyLH » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 pm

I'm just curious... how in the world would one go about washing dishes with a bar of soap? Does she rub the bar on the dishes? Or does she hold the bar under a stream of water to try to make a sink full of soapy water? I would like to know how she does it, because it might be handy sometime camping when I forget the dishwashing detergent!

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Post by Toons » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:24 pm

Dawn
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Post by Chip » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:25 pm

Rupert wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:35 am
Although I keep some Dawn around the house for random cleaning jobs (it really is a wonder substance), I prefer Seventh Generation natural dish liquid for hand-washing dishes. It doesn't dry my hands out as much as Dawn and other brands.
I'm a Dawn fan as well. You might try one of the "hand renewal" versions of Dawn. They seem to clean just as well but don't strip the oils out of your skin. I actually use it to clean my hands after working on cars.

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Post by Dottie57 » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:32 pm

jharkin wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:01 am
Dottie57 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am
I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.
+1 Dawn has got to be the best soap ever invented. Also works wonders for cleaning prescription eyeglasses.
Totally agree for glasses too.

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Post by obgraham » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:46 pm

Joy..

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Post by GoldenFinch » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:51 pm

Dawn.

*Too bad we can’t have a poll (lol).

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Post by ResearchMed » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:47 pm

GoldenFinch wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:51 pm
Dawn.

*Too bad we can’t have a poll (lol).
I think we are in the midst of one, and we have ... a winner :D

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Post by NotWhoYouThink » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:50 pm

Where do you buy Dawn bar soap? Because even though Dawn liquid is a great product, it isn't the answer to OP's question about a good bar soap to use for dishes.

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Post by AAA » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:57 pm

JaneyLH wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:22 pm
I'm just curious... how in the world would one go about washing dishes with a bar of soap? Does she rub the bar on the dishes? Or does she hold the bar under a stream of water to try to make a sink full of soapy water? I would like to know how she does it, because it might be handy sometime camping when I forget the dishwashing detergent!
She wets a sponge, rubs it on the bar to soap it up then uses the sponge on the dishes.

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Post by UpperNwGuy » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:05 pm

Rupert wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 11:35 am
I prefer Seventh Generation natural dish liquid for hand-washing dishes. It doesn't dry my hands out as much as Dawn and other brands.
+1

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Post by RickBoglehead » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:14 pm

AAA wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am
I finally emailed the soap manufacturer, and they did not recommend using their bar soap to wash dishes.

This ^^^^. Should be end of discussion. Car soap is also not recommended.

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Post by mouses » Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:19 pm

I think there is probably room on the kitchen sink for the products each of you prefers. I assume no one has keeled over from eating off the dishes your wife washes.

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Post by AAA » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:17 pm

RickBoglehead wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:14 pm
AAA wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:58 am
I finally emailed the soap manufacturer, and they did not recommend using their bar soap to wash dishes.

This ^^^^. Should be end of discussion. Car soap is also not recommended.
Not quite. That was one particular soap manufacturer who commented on their soap.

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Post by SanityCheck » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:24 pm

Use "Dawn Ultra"......much better than "Original" !!

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Post by ResearchMed » Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:28 pm

SanityCheck wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 4:24 pm
Use "Dawn Ultra"......much better than "Original" !!
Thanks.
We'll give it a try.
In general, once we find a product that "works great", we don't tend to keep trying others. Yup, that means we might not find "THE Ultimate <X>".
But it keeps us satisfied and happy. :happy

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Post by SheltieFolk » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:09 pm

If she really wants to use bar soap, and can figure out how to do it, pick a non-deoderant, nonscented, castile soap, and go for it.

Plain Baby shampoo would probably work well too. I use it for hand washable clothing.

I use Walmart brand dish detergent, the blue liquid one. Used to use Dawn exclusively but am cutting costs since I retired and have found the Walmart version to be almost as good as Dawn.

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Post by Irisheyes » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:25 pm

mouses wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:19 pm
I think there is probably room on the kitchen sink for the products each of you prefers. I assume no one has keeled over from eating off the dishes your wife washes.
My thought exactly.

We keep two products on the sink. Dawn, for when there is greasy, tough to clean plates/pans. Mrs. Meyers Clean Day soap when we don't need something as strong going into the septic.

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Post by AAA » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:02 am

mouses wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 3:19 pm
I assume no one has keeled over from eating off the dishes your wife washes.
A lot of things in our environment don't cause one to keel over in the short term but some people strive to optimize what they can, where possible and practical to do so. Using an appropriate item to clean one's dishes would fall into that category.

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Post by shell921 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:06 am

Mrs. Meyer's Clean Day Dish Soap, Lemon Verbena

Target used to carry it..you can buy it on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Mrs-Meyers-Clean ... +dish+soap

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Post by magazinewriter » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:23 am

Dottie57 wrote:
Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:59 am
I use Dawn. Original formula. If it works for animals covered in oil from oil spills, it is fine for me.
Totally agree. Our local seabird rescue uses it and I think it works well for my dishes. Last year I got a bottle of “upscale” dish liquid made by Caldrea with a lovely scent. But I didn’t like the way it cleaned so I’m back to Dawn.

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Post by AAA » Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:17 pm

shell921 wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:06 am
Mrs. Meyer's Clean Day Dish Soap, Lemon Verbena

Target used to carry it..you can buy it on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Mrs-Meyers-Clean ... +dish+soap
Thanks, but the reason for this thread was not to get recommendations for liquid dish soaps. And by the way, while I don't know about this particular item, another Mrs. Meyer's product that I had researched contained synthetic fragrance, if that's of any concern to you.

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Re: Soap for hand washing dishes

Post by jlawrence01 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:15 pm

Liquid Ivory for normal dishes. Dawn for greasy messes.

Tide also works very well for washing dishes and has been promoted as such in commercial kitchens.

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