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Sad News About a Respected Forum Member

Post by Mel Lindauer » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:30 pm

Bogleheads:

Taylor and I received this Private Message (PM) from Lee Marshall (user name Mephistophles):

"Have leukemia and just a short time to live. When gone please let forum know and explain why I have not been answering recent private messages. Learned a great deal from you guys in the greatest internet financial forum."

We asked Lee for permission to post his message on the Bogleheads Forum where he is loved and respected by every Boglehead who has ever read his valuable postings with his deprecating signature “Old Meph”.

“Old Meph” is actually a very knowledgeable, ethical, long-time life-insurance and annuity authority (CLU) who has contributed over 3000 posts to the Bogleheads Forum, beginning in 2007. “Old Meph” also wrote Chapters 14 and 15 in our second book, The Bogleheads' Guide to Retirement Planning.

Bogleheads are forever grateful to Lee for providing his untainted advice and for helping forum members with their questions regarding insurance products, sold by an industry where conflict-free advice is hard to find.

Thank you and may God comfort you, “Old Meph".

Taylor and Mel

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Post by livesoft » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:36 pm

Bummer. I'll just give my thanks to ole meph and say I'll see you around the bend some day.
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Post by fishandgolf » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:40 pm

My deepest sympathies go out to all friends and family of "Old Meph"....... wishing everyone the best!

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Post by mrc » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:45 pm

RIP Meph. We'll miss you.
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Post by ruralavalon » Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:47 pm

So sorry, will.miss you.
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Post by carolinaman » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:18 pm

Meph, very sorry to hear of your condition. May God bless and comfort you. Thanks for your valuable contributions to this forum.

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Post by CaliJim » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:23 pm

Great teacher. Wise and generous. I've learned a lot from Old Meph, as many of us have. His contributions will always live on.
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Post by NotWhoYouThink » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:45 pm

Old Meph has helped more people than he can ever know. We'll miss his kindness and wisdom.

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Post by matjen » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:50 pm

Old Meph is one of the go-to members of this forum for insurance and has helped many including me. Thank you for that Old Meph. I wish nothing but the best for you and yours. You will be missed but hopefully not for awhile. My thoughts are with you.

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Post by angelescrest » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:53 pm

Indeed, I got some invaluable feedback about a major annuity deal our family was wrestling with. See you on the other side, good man.

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Post by Levett » Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:59 pm

God bless Old Meph.

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Post by Bulldawg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:01 pm

May the Good Lord provide peace to you and family during this trial .
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Post by retiredjg » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:05 pm

Mel Lindauer wrote:Bogleheads are forever grateful to Lee for providing his untainted advice and for helping forum members with their questions regarding insurance products, sold by an industry where conflict-free advice is hard to find.
This is so true. Thanks Old Meph :happy

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Post by Ged » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:15 pm

Ole Meph is one of the great resources that make this site a unique font. He will be missed.

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Post by nomas » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:22 pm

Old Meph, thank you for your contributions to the Bogleheads. I always enjoyed your posts and learned quite a bit from them. May God bless and comfort you.

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Post by Gill » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:36 pm

Old Meph disclosed his identity to me in a PM several years ago and I await anxiously for him to post every time an insurance question arises. A real straight shooter with a keen knowledge of the insurance business. All best wishes, Lee, and many thanks for all you have contributed to the knowledge of all of us.
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Post by LadyGeek » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:36 pm

Lee, I will miss you greatly. I enjoyed the many PMs we've exchanged, learned quite a bit from you, not to mention a few wiki articles: Life insurance :happy

God bless.
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Post by nedsaid » Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:48 pm

Thanks Lee for all you did for this forum. God Bless.
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Post by Yooper » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:01 pm

Now the riddle is solved. I began admiring this character "old Meph" the first time I read a thread where he was, almost to the point of, being abused, and yet he stayed calm, focused, and continued providing his unbiased viewpoint and measured guidance regarding insurance. From time to time in other threads, much as some posters tried, they never got his goat and he stayed on point. Actions speak louder than words, and I told myself, "I don't know who this guy is, but I think I need to listen when he talks." Thank you Lee, I'm an unknown stranger but you've made an impact on me.

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Post by Miriam2 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:02 pm

There is no one who can analyze an insurance policy better than Ole meph, then give his opinions and suggestions in the most professional and courteous way. He never stops educating us on the value and pitfalls of life insurance, can see the jewels and the rocks in the industry.

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Post by Miriam2 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:13 pm

The Bogleheads.org forum began on February 19, 2007, and within 5 weeks, on March 28, 2007, ole meph posted his first post.
It is titled "Yes, things to think about."
ole meph: "Yes, things to think about"

I think "Willie" said: We live and we die, we laugh and we cry, and yet, we never know why.

Ole meph said: We all regress to the mean, so enjoy the high moments and bear the low moments in this journey through life, and, make a pile of money while you are doing it.

ole meph
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ole meph - we really appreciate you :happy
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Post by Grt2bOutdoors » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:13 pm

I will give my thanks as well, really enjoyed reading all of Old Meph's posts. You made a real difference to many. Thank you. God Bless.
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Post by baw703916 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:26 pm

While I never got to know Lee personally, I have always greatly enjoyed his posts. I always found them thoughtful, informative, and invariably worth reading, even when I didn't completely agree with him.

Thank you, "Old Meph," for sharing your wisdom and insights, and may your posts continue to inform and educate many Bogleheads in the future.

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Post by JDaniels » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:41 pm

God bless Old Meph
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Post by Kenkat » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:46 pm

Sorry to hear this sad news. You'll be missed, buddy, :(

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Post by neurosphere » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:55 pm

I will miss you.

I will strive to live up to the example you have set.

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Post by Tanelorn » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:05 pm

To Lee - if you're still around, thank you so much for sharing your time and wisdom here. There are so few real experts in their field that take the time to patiently share their knowledge and advice online, and you stood out to me as one of the best here.

To everyone who doesn't know Old Meph by his reputation, keep reading his old posts and you'll learn a great deal about insurance (in the same way you might read Alan S on IRAs or sscritic on social security).
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Post by EHEngineer » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:09 pm

Thank you ole meph for all the knowledge you've shared, and that I benefitted from. I dont think we ever communicated, but I learned from you and enjoyed reading your posts. I appreciate your straight forward, minimum complexity approach. Such a breath of fresh when learning about the complicated world of insurance.

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Post by goingup » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:29 pm

There are a few on the forum that know insurance. But when Ole Meph weighed in on something it the final and best word on the matter. I hope he weighs in here. I'd love to see that that Greek statue icon one more time. Is it Rodin's The Thinker?

Godspeed and thank you.

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Post by Broken Man 1999 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:31 pm

May God comfort you and your family during this time.

Thank you for all your contributions; they are, and will continue to be greatly appreciated. Sharing your special expertise helped so many of us better understand complicated insurance products.

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Post by joe8d » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:09 pm

Sad to hear.He was the insurance expert and helped many in that regard.In my prayers

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Post by amitb00 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:39 pm

Take care. You impacted so many folks here.
We pray for courage during this tough time. Regards, Amit

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Post by fund » Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:54 pm

I am very saddened to hear this. Wishing the greatest comfort to you and your family. Thank you for your selfless contributions and assistance to others.

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Post by neurosphere » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:12 pm

Tanelorn wrote: To everyone who doesn't know Old Meph by his reputation, keep reading his old posts and you'll learn a great deal about insurance (in the same way you might read Alan S on IRAs or sscritic on social security).
A forum like this makes Old Meph immortal, and forever preserves his contribution to society. Thanks again man.

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Post by dekecarver » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:31 pm

Sorry to hear the news. I really appreciated you taking your time to answer my PMs and learned a lot from your posts.

I wish you and your family the best.

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Post by David Jay » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:27 pm

A few weeks ago I posted some advice on a whole life thread and got a "+1" from Ol' Meph. A highlight of my BH experience!

Best Wishes, Lee.
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Post by avecmoi » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:18 pm

Dear Lee,

Thank you for all your contributions to us in this board. People like you, Taylor, Mel, William, Larry and many others have helped me and countless others so much in achieving financial understanding. You will never know how much and how many you have helped in this life. I have been spreading the boglehead philosophy of LBYM and simple investments in index funds to my family, loved ones and even acquaintances willing to listen. Most of the time I fail but a few have seen the light and become converts themselves.

Please let me give my humble perspective. Other physicians/nurses/medical personel on this board can chime in but from my experience, quality of life is much more important than quantity of life. If there is a decent chance of cure, go ahead and try. If it might prolong life without too much side effects, do it. However, I would not subject myself to misery for a small chance at a few more months of life. Good pain control, with hospice near loved ones would be my choice. I will pray for you tonight with my family to Jesus my Savior.

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Post by TareNeko » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:32 pm

Is there anything we can do as Bogleheads community?

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Post by ObliviousInvestor » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:35 pm

Thank you for your sharing your time and knowledge with this community, Ole Meph. I have learned much from you.

And thank you, too, for letting us know, rather than leaving us guessing.

I wish you peace.
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Post by MoonOrb » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:42 pm

You made a difference for all of us here. Peace be with you, Old Meph.

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Post by grabiner » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:44 pm

We'll miss you, Old Meph. The Bogleheads forum depends on people like you who know their subject and can give good advice.
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Post by MossySF » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:36 am

I loved reading Ole Meph's posts about insurance. The details to be gleaned were always enlightening.

He will be missed on this forum and in life.

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Post by BrandonBogle » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:48 am

Ole Meph, you have brought keen insight and amazing advice to our little community. I am saddened that you are not well and we may not see your virtual smile around these parts much longer. We will carry your torch and keep your kind words with us. May you not suffer. You are already missed.

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Post by ZeroWealth » Tue Jan 10, 2017 1:14 am

I just joined the community a few days ago and to see this breaks my heart. My thoughts are with him and his family and this community.
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Post by mlebuf » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:22 am

Hi Ole Meph,

It's been said that we make a living by what we get but we make a life by what we give. Many of us are grateful to you for the wise counsel you gave to many. It's people like you who make this forum special. See you on the other side. God bless.
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Post by Robert T » Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:38 am

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So sorry to hear this - thank you for your contributions, your advice lives on.

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Post by nisiprius » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:51 am

Ole Meph, I can only add my voice to everything that everybody else has said. I've valued your forum contributions and some work with you behind the scenes. It's always tiny things you remember, and perhaps the moment I remember best was the time you pointed out that I was misspelling your screen name--which is Mephistophles, not "Mephistopheles." I've been punctilious about that ever since. I'm glad to have been given a chance to say goodbye.
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Post by johnubc » Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:58 am

A fantastic contributor.

I wish I knew him personally. May God be with you.

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Post by mcraepat9 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:06 am

A Boglehead legend in all respects.
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Post by carolc » Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:30 am

Sad. I would always read what he had to say. He will certainly be missed on this forum.

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