Backdoor Roth and Rollover from 401k to Trad IRA

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MillionaireMentality
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Backdoor Roth and Rollover from 401k to Trad IRA

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Hi all -

I completed a backdoor Roth conversion of $7,000 on January 1st this year.

It turns out that my income this year will likely be under the MAGI limit for Roth IRA contributions.

I was thinking about taking up Robinhood on their 2% bonus promo for rolling in an old 401k to a Trad IRA which ends on 4/15.

But I don't want to get into an issue with the pro rata rule, which to my understanding means my Trad IRA balance must be $0 on December 31, 2025.

Since my MAGI will likely be below the limit this year, but I have already done a backdoor Roth conversion, does this rule still apply to me? If so, I will need to wait until next year to entertain any 401k rollovers and see how my income is looking for 2026.

Thank you
Ostrich
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Re: Backdoor Roth and Rollover from 401k to Trad IRA

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You are not allowed to undo a Roth Conversion, so I think you are stuck for this year.
EnjoyIt
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Re: Backdoor Roth and Rollover from 401k to Trad IRA

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looking to do something similar and want to see other responses.

Thanks for posting
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toddthebod
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Re: Backdoor Roth and Rollover from 401k to Trad IRA

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MillionaireMentality wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 2:59 pm Hi all -

I completed a backdoor Roth conversion of $7,000 on January 1st this year.

It turns out that my income this year will likely be under the MAGI limit for Roth IRA contributions.

I was thinking about taking up Robinhood on their 2% bonus promo for rolling in an old 401k to a Trad IRA which ends on 4/15.

But I don't want to get into an issue with the pro rata rule, which to my understanding means my Trad IRA balance must be $0 on December 31, 2025.

Since my MAGI will likely be below the limit this year, but I have already done a backdoor Roth conversion, does this rule still apply to me? If so, I will need to wait until next year to entertain any 401k rollovers and see how my income is looking for 2026.

Thank you
Sorry, a Roth conversion cannot be reversed. In addition, Robinhood requires you to leave the funds there for 5 years, which would preclude you from backdoor Roths for those years as well, should your income increase.
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