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We are in the market to replace a 20 year old TV. We are looking at getting 80"-85" TV. Due to windows in the room as well as night light reflections we are looking for something anti-reflective and anti-glare. We don't want to compromise on that and are willing to pay premium for it. We loved top of the line Samsung OLED that has almost no reflection. But the largest size it comes in is 77". https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions- ... s95dafxza/

So as an alternate we looked at Samsung Frame TV that comes in 85" which is anti-reflective and is in matt finish . We liked it a lot. Viewing will be some sports and TV shows. I was looking for personal experience of this TV and specifically how is fast paced sports on this TV? https://www.samsung.com/us/televisions- ... s03dafxza/

Our other option is to wait till someone comes out with 83" anti-reflective OLED. But who knows how long it will be.

Thank you in advance.
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I just bought a new 65” Samsung Frame TV. Very happy with it. It’s expensive, but it works very well. I can comfortably view it in a sunny room, and from some pretty wide angle.

And the “flat to the wall” mount gives a nice clean look when you’re not watching TV. The Art show is a bonus that my spouse definitely enjoys.

The remote was an unexpected surprise. It works very well and does a good job controlling all the apps, etc. so we are down now to just the one single emote that came with the frame.
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Normchad wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:45 pm I just bought a new 65” Samsung Frame TV. Very happy with it. It’s expensive, but it works very well. I can comfortably view it in a sunny room, and from some pretty wide angle.

And the “flat to the wall” mount gives a nice clean look when you’re not watching TV. The Art show is a bonus that my spouse definitely enjoys.

The remote was an unexpected surprise. It works very well and does a good job controlling all the apps, etc. so we are down now to just the one single emote that came with the frame.
Thank you. That's great to hear. Have you watched football and does it look ok or blurry?
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I just had to refuse shipment of our Frame TV on Saturday. The studs on our wall did not align to the TV's built in frame in a way that would let the TV be centered. That is what I consider the only downside of the TV itself.

Samsung's installers said it's a common issue they see often where the TV has to be installed off center because of the mounting. If you want to test your wall, see if there is a stud within 6 inches of the edge of where the TV would hang.
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plsgoobs wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:53 pm I just had to refuse shipment of our Frame TV on Saturday. The studs on our wall did not align to the TV's built in frame in a way that would let the TV be centered. That is what I consider the only downside of the TV itself.

Samsung's installers said it's a common issue they see often where the TV has to be installed off center because of the mounting. If you want to test your wall, see if there is a stud within 6 inches of the edge of where the TV would hang.
So the stud needs to be within 6" of the mounting bracket? If so Wouldn't there be different brackets that allow more flexibility?
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Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:57 pm So the stud needs to be within 6" of the mounting bracket? If so Wouldn't there be different brackets that allow more flexibility?
If you want to use the Frame as it's designed to sit on the wall (the mount is only 3mm thick) you have to use the one that is built into the TV. I believe you can use a regular TV mount as well but you won't get the look of framed art. However, I think you could probably get away with a toggle bolt in the drywall if you really wanted, but my installers (and myself) decided that it would be better to just get a different TV and mount.

They did say if you need the matte finish, then yes, mount it with a traditional mount, but if not, you can get a better TV (which I believe and hope we did).
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Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:52 pm
Normchad wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:45 pm I just bought a new 65” Samsung Frame TV. Very happy with it. It’s expensive, but it works very well. I can comfortably view it in a sunny room, and from some pretty wide angle.

And the “flat to the wall” mount gives a nice clean look when you’re not watching TV. The Art show is a bonus that my spouse definitely enjoys.

The remote was an unexpected surprise. It works very well and does a good job controlling all the apps, etc. so we are down now to just the one single emote that came with the frame.
Thank you. That's great to hear. Have you watched football and does it look ok or blurry?
I’ve watched American football,on it, and it looked good to me. I didn’t see any of the “soap opera effect” I had seem with other TVs in the past.

As for mounting, I didn’t mount it to any studs. Zero. The TV doesn’t weigh much…… I used something like these these: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hilti-HTB-3 ... /305537032 Each of them is rated for over 80 pounds, and there are six of them. I have no concerns about it coming loose with these fasteners…..

One thing to think about is that the TV comes with “The Samsung One Box”. It’s a box that’s maybe 11x8x2 inches or something. And that box connects to the frame with a very thin wire. So all your accessories and power, etc plug into the box, then the box plugs to the TV. The thing you need to figure out, is, where are you going to put the box? If you want the cleanest look, like I did, you can put a utility box in the wall behind where the TV will go. Have an electrical outlook in that recess. Then you can put the Samsung One Box in there,and hang the TV in front of it,flat to the wall.
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Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:57 pm
plsgoobs wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:53 pm I just had to refuse shipment of our Frame TV on Saturday. The studs on our wall did not align to the TV's built in frame in a way that would let the TV be centered. That is what I consider the only downside of the TV itself.

Samsung's installers said it's a common issue they see often where the TV has to be installed off center because of the mounting. If you want to test your wall, see if there is a stud within 6 inches of the edge of where the TV would hang.
So the stud needs to be within 6" of the mounting bracket? If so Wouldn't there be different brackets that allow more flexibility?
It wouldn't be difficult to cut the drywall and frame in whatever studs you need to mount it. The repair doesnt need to be pretty or painted since its behind the TV.
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Normchad wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:07 pm
Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:52 pm

Thank you. That's great to hear. Have you watched football and does it look ok or blurry?
I’ve watched American football,on it, and it looked good to me. I didn’t see any of the “soap opera effect” I had seem with other TVs in the past.

As for mounting, I didn’t mount it to any studs. Zero. The TV doesn’t weigh much…… I used something like these these: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hilti-HTB-3 ... /305537032 Each of them is rated for over 80 pounds, and there are six of them. I have no concerns about it coming loose with these fasteners…..

One thing to think about is that the TV comes with “The Samsung One Box”. It’s a box that’s maybe 11x8x2 inches or something. And that box connects to the frame with a very thin wire. So all your accessories and power, etc plug into the box, then the box plugs to the TV. The thing you need to figure out, is, where are you going to put the box? If you want the cleanest look, like I did, you can put a utility box in the wall behind where the TV will go. Have an electrical outlook in that recess. Then you can put the Samsung One Box in there,and hang the TV in front of it,flat to the wall.
Thanks for sharing the link for the anchors and your experience. I also found a YouTube video of the install from 2021 which used those. So I am happy about. I will be ordering it today. Costco has it for $3000.
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We didn't consider The Frame, but picked up a 77" S95D a week or so ago and have been very pleased with it. If you have a AAA membership there is an additional discount on Samsung products if you order from Samsung direct and it stacks on top of the existing Black Friday deal. To use it, hit the Shop Samsung Now button from the AAA site and then it will take you to a validation page where you validate your membership - https://discounts.aaa.com/home-business/samsung

We are avid Costco shoppers as well, but with the AAA discount the price was a few hundred lower than Costco.
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queso wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:49 am We didn't consider The Frame, but picked up a 77" S95D a week or so ago and have been very pleased with it. If you have a AAA membership there is an additional discount on Samsung products if you order from Samsung direct and it stacks on top of the existing Black Friday deal. To use it, hit the Shop Samsung Now button from the AAA site and then it will take you to a validation page where you validate your membership - https://discounts.aaa.com/home-business/samsung

We are avid Costco shoppers as well, but with the AAA discount the price was a few hundred lower than Costco.
Thank you. We are not AAA members. Wonder how much discount is on 85” frame TV. If it’s worth it I can always get a membership for a year.
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Theseus wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:07 am
queso wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 7:49 am We didn't consider The Frame, but picked up a 77" S95D a week or so ago and have been very pleased with it. If you have a AAA membership there is an additional discount on Samsung products if you order from Samsung direct and it stacks on top of the existing Black Friday deal. To use it, hit the Shop Samsung Now button from the AAA site and then it will take you to a validation page where you validate your membership - https://discounts.aaa.com/home-business/samsung

We are avid Costco shoppers as well, but with the AAA discount the price was a few hundred lower than Costco.
Thank you. We are not AAA members. Wonder how much discount is on 85” frame TV. If it’s worth it I can always get a membership for a year.
I think it was an additional $350 or so on the S95D bringing the total down to $3150. Total discount from Black Friday plus AAA was $1450 off.
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queso wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:10 am
Theseus wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:07 am

Thank you. We are not AAA members. Wonder how much discount is on 85” frame TV. If it’s worth it I can always get a membership for a year.
I think it was an additional $350 or so on the S95D bringing the total down to $3150. Total discount from Black Friday plus AAA was $1450 off.
Thank you. I will check it out.
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Even the best LCD TVs like the Frame are going to be a step down from OLED.

I looked at Rtings' reviews of the TVs you're looking at, including the anti-reflective coating. It's a matte coating that disperses light; in some ways it's much worse than the coating on lower-tier Samsung OLEDs and on LG OLED TVs. It's true you can't see your own reflection like a mirror, but if you have a bright light source shining at the surface, you'll get a large blotch of light.

Honestly, having owned a Samsung S95B for 2 years, I would not recommend Samsung TVs. The Tizen OS is clunky, there are still bugs (e.g., with HDMI eARC) even after many software updates, and the software updates have totally nerfed the main advantage of the QD-OLED, brightness, to where it's now no better than conventional OLEDs. LG's top OLEDs actually get much brighter.

If I were buying a top-end OLED TV today, it would be a no-brainer: the LG G4, which is available in an 83-inch size.
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I mounted mine over a fireplace that had stone above it. I first mounted a piece of 3/4” plywood to the stone, getting anchors/screws in between the stones. I then mounted the frame to the plywood. It is not as tight against the wall as possible without the plywood but it still looks like a framed piece of art over the fireplace. OP, you could mount plywood to the studs and then mount the frame to the plywood.
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Normchad wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:07 pm
One thing to think about is that the TV comes with “The Samsung One Box”. It’s a box that’s maybe 11x8x2 inches or something. And that box connects to the frame with a very thin wire. So all your accessories and power, etc plug into the box, then the box plugs to the TV. The thing you need to figure out, is, where are you going to put the box? If you want the cleanest look, like I did, you can put a utility box in the wall behind where the TV will go. Have an electrical outlook in that recess. Then you can put the Samsung One Box in there,and hang the TV in front of it,flat to the wall.
I mounted mine above the fireplace. We were changing it up and added a new mantle above the stone. We got a custom wood one that had a front drop-down and the inside was open. We were able to hide the Samsung One Box inside the mantle, which gave us full access to the box to add other inputs as needed. It worked out really well. Just put a hole in the back of the mantle and dropped the skinny wire down from the TV. It hangs flatter to the wall than any actual art in the house <grin>

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I have a 2019 65" Frame TV model bought while we were building to mount above my fireplace. I put in a recessed box with "smurf" tube to the floor area or the room behind this (our master bed room), where I have the "One Box" kept on the floor under our bed. I splurge a bit ($5 a month) on the Samsung art collection and change the picture every night before turning in so my wife comes out to a new image every morning.

Zero problems with the set.

I also have a 65" LG OLED TV down the hall in a guest bedroom set up as a "media room" with a sofa lounger / pull out bed - my wife can hear dialog better with the sound bar setup I have in this room. I mention this as a picture quality comparison point - while the OLED is better for those darker scenes in shows / movies, there's nothing wrong with the 2019 Frame led image quality.

When and if the 2019 Frame dies, I'll be looking to get another Frame Tv model.

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mjg wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:55 pm I have a 2019 65" Frame TV model bought while we were building to mount above my fireplace. I put in a recessed box with "smurf" tube to the floor area or the room behind this (our master bed room), where I have the "One Box" kept on the floor under our bed. I splurge a bit ($5 a month) on the Samsung art collection and change the picture every night before turning in so my wife comes out to a new image every morning.

Zero problems with the set.

I also have a 65" LG OLED TV down the hall in a guest bedroom set up as a "media room" with a sofa lounger / pull out bed - my wife can hear dialog better with the sound bar setup I have in this room. I mention this as a picture quality comparison point - while the OLED is better for those darker scenes in shows / movies, there's nothing wrong with the 2019 Frame led image quality.

When and if the 2019 Frame dies, I'll be looking to get another Frame Tv model.

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It looks beautiful. You have a great set up there. How is the viewing angle ? Some people online say that horizontal viewing angle is not the best? But I don't know what that really means.
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02nz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:18 am Even the best LCD TVs like the Frame are going to be a step down from OLED.

I looked at Rtings' reviews of the TVs you're looking at, including the anti-reflective coating. It's a matte coating that disperses light; in some ways it's much worse than the coating on lower-tier Samsung OLEDs and on LG OLED TVs. It's true you can't see your own reflection like a mirror, but if you have a bright light source shining at the surface, you'll get a large blotch of light.

Honestly, having owned a Samsung S95B for 2 years, I would not recommend Samsung TVs. The Tizen OS is clunky, there are still bugs (e.g., with HDMI eARC) even after many software updates, and the software updates have totally nerfed the main advantage of the QD-OLED, brightness, to where it's now no better than conventional OLEDs. LG's top OLEDs actually get much brighter.

If I were buying a top-end OLED TV today, it would be a no-brainer: the LG G4, which is available in an 83-inch size.
I know what you are saying but we went to the Best Buy to check it out. The OLEDs are almost all reflective and shows all the ceiling lights. But in the Matt finish you can barely notice it. Besides we have a very bright room and it just make sense to get a QLED. I know on paper the OLED has better specs, but in our room location that may not give us the bang for the buck like frame tv. Besides it is a family room like @mjg that posted the picture below. It will look so much better when we are not watching the TV, which is most of the time :)
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I have two Samsung Frame 85" tvs. One in the kids rec room, one in our great room. Excellent tvs and we are super happy with them. Both are connected to home theatre speaker systems so I cannot comment on sound but picture is a 10/10. We actually do use the art mode and have fooled a lot of people due to the matte look.
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Theseus wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:31 am
02nz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:18 am Even the best LCD TVs like the Frame are going to be a step down from OLED.

I looked at Rtings' reviews of the TVs you're looking at, including the anti-reflective coating. It's a matte coating that disperses light; in some ways it's much worse than the coating on lower-tier Samsung OLEDs and on LG OLED TVs. It's true you can't see your own reflection like a mirror, but if you have a bright light source shining at the surface, you'll get a large blotch of light.

Honestly, having owned a Samsung S95B for 2 years, I would not recommend Samsung TVs. The Tizen OS is clunky, there are still bugs (e.g., with HDMI eARC) even after many software updates, and the software updates have totally nerfed the main advantage of the QD-OLED, brightness, to where it's now no better than conventional OLEDs. LG's top OLEDs actually get much brighter.

If I were buying a top-end OLED TV today, it would be a no-brainer: the LG G4, which is available in an 83-inch size.
I know what you are saying but we went to the Best Buy to check it out. The OLEDs are almost all reflective and shows all the ceiling lights. But in the Matt finish you can barely notice it. Besides we have a very bright room and it just make sense to get a QLED. I know on paper the OLED has better specs, but in our room location that may not give us the bang for the buck like frame tv. Besides it is a family room like @mjg that posted the picture below. It will look so much better when we are not watching the TV, which is most of the time :)
Does the lighting at your house resembles that of a Best Buy? I sure hope not. :happy

And today's OLED TVs are more than bright enough to handle a bright room. Look at Rtings' tests of The Frame and the LG G4: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare ... 542#test_4. In tests where only part of the screen is at peak brightness (pure white), the LG OLED actually gets much brighter than the Samsung QLED. The Samsung only has an advantage where basically the entire screen is white, which is only meaningful if all you watch is hockey games.
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02nz wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 5:03 pm
Theseus wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:31 am

I know what you are saying but we went to the Best Buy to check it out. The OLEDs are almost all reflective and shows all the ceiling lights. But in the Matt finish you can barely notice it. Besides we have a very bright room and it just make sense to get a QLED. I know on paper the OLED has better specs, but in our room location that may not give us the bang for the buck like frame tv. Besides it is a family room like @mjg that posted the picture below. It will look so much better when we are not watching the TV, which is most of the time :)
Does the lighting at your house resembles that of a Best Buy? I sure hope not. :happy

And today's OLED TVs are more than bright enough to handle a bright room. Look at Rtings' tests of The Frame and the LG G4: https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare ... 542#test_4. In tests where only part of the screen is at peak brightness (pure white), the LG OLED actually gets much brighter than the Samsung QLED. The Samsung only has an advantage where basically the entire screen is white, which is only meaningful if all you watch is hockey games.
Our room in worse than what we saw at the Best Buy as far as the windows and ceiling lights go. It is more about the glare and reflection than brightness. If they had anti glare oled in 83” I would go for it for sure. They only make it 77”. And it seems a small difference but it would look out of proportion small in our room. We blue taped it to see how it will look. We think we need 83” or 85” and only one that fits the bill is the frame TV.
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Very happy with my 2021 55"(?) frame TV. Would definitely buy another.

It is in a room with ALOT of direct sunlight and the screen is always viewable since it is matte.

Football looks great on it (to me).

I mounted it myself - my recollection is the special mounting bar has a 8-12" wide area that you can select to mount. I mounted one side to studs and installed large drywall anchors for the other side where there were no studs. I have a closet behind the wall on which it is mounted so have the onebox on a high shelf in that closet.
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Theseus wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:27 am
mjg wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 2:55 pm I have a 2019 65" Frame TV model bought while we were building to mount above my fireplace. I put in a recessed box with "smurf" tube to the floor area or the room behind this (our master bed room), where I have the "One Box" kept on the floor under our bed. I splurge a bit ($5 a month) on the Samsung art collection and change the picture every night before turning in so my wife comes out to a new image every morning.

Zero problems with the set.

I also have a 65" LG OLED TV down the hall in a guest bedroom set up as a "media room" with a sofa lounger / pull out bed - my wife can hear dialog better with the sound bar setup I have in this room. I mention this as a picture quality comparison point - while the OLED is better for those darker scenes in shows / movies, there's nothing wrong with the 2019 Frame led image quality.

When and if the 2019 Frame dies, I'll be looking to get another Frame Tv model.
It looks beautiful. You have a great set up there. How is the viewing angle ? Some people online say that horizontal viewing angle is not the best? But I don't know what that really means.
Side viewing angle and horizontal viewing angle (being high or low to the height of the screen) are both fine.
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Have a Samsung 55" Smart TV.
Not a frame type.
Recently wanted to add the MAX app to it to stream.

Can't add ANY app to it without first creating a Samsung Account.

Zero reason for the end consumer to have to do this.

Don't want a Roku, Firestick or whatever other workaround. Just allow other apps/channels to be installed without forcing your bs tracking or whatever on me.

Done with Samsung.
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Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:41 pm Our other option is to wait till someone comes out with 83" anti-reflective OLED. But who knows how long it will be.
LG offers 83" anti-reflection OLED in G4 series, according to techradar https://www.techradar.com/televisions/lg-g4-review
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eli80 wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:37 am I mounted mine over a fireplace that had stone above it. I first mounted a piece of 3/4” plywood to the stone, getting anchors/screws in between the stones. I then mounted the frame to the plywood. It is not as tight against the wall as possible without the plywood but it still looks like a framed piece of art over the fireplace. OP, you could mount plywood to the studs and then mount the frame to the plywood.
This +1. We mounted DDs frame tv in similar fashion and centered it both horizontally and vertically. Make sure you get the vertical height accurately, research the best height. It’s tempting to mount the tv too high because it’s a frame television. Then paint the wood or use furniture grade wood or similar.
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barnaclebob wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:20 pm
Theseus wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 4:57 pm

So the stud needs to be within 6" of the mounting bracket? If so Wouldn't there be different brackets that allow more flexibility?
It wouldn't be difficult to cut the drywall and frame in whatever studs you need to mount it. The repair doesnt need to be pretty or painted since its behind the TV.
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02nz wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:18 am Even the best LCD TVs like the Frame are going to be a step down from OLED.

I looked at Rtings' reviews of the TVs you're looking at, including the anti-reflective coating. It's a matte coating that disperses light; in some ways it's much worse than the coating on lower-tier Samsung OLEDs and on LG OLED TVs. It's true you can't see your own reflection like a mirror, but if you have a bright light source shining at the surface, you'll get a large blotch of light.

Honestly, having owned a Samsung S95B for 2 years, I would not recommend Samsung TVs. The Tizen OS is clunky, there are still bugs (e.g., with HDMI eARC) even after many software updates, and the software updates have totally nerfed the main advantage of the QD-OLED, brightness, to where it's now no better than conventional OLEDs. LG's top OLEDs actually get much brighter.

If I were buying a top-end OLED TV today, it would be a no-brainer: the LG G4, which is available in an 83-inch size.
I have a 77" LG OLED TV, the picture is stunning! The only thing I would replace it with would be the 83" LG!

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mouth wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:37 pm
barnaclebob wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2024 5:20 pm

It wouldn't be difficult to cut the drywall and frame in whatever studs you need to mount it. The repair doesnt need to be pretty or painted since its behind the TV.
Amazing how many people are afraid / unwilling to do this. In their defense, it usually still takes my brain a half second to accept that it isn't a big deal; but still it's only a half second :) Crazier, it's something I would (and have) done myself but I admit I still doubt my finishing skill. That's what makes your last sentence all the more important!!!
Some DIY looks great. The last thing I want is to have my project look like the homeowner’s unprofessional handiwork. Just to save a little money. It may not be correctable. My eye is drawn to the imperfection.
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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hvaclorax wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:52 pm
mouth wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:37 pm

Amazing how many people are afraid / unwilling to do this. In their defense, it usually still takes my brain a half second to accept that it isn't a big deal; but still it's only a half second :) Crazier, it's something I would (and have) done myself but I admit I still doubt my finishing skill. That's what makes your last sentence all the more important!!!
Some DIY looks great. The last thing I want is to have my project look like the homeowner’s unprofessional handiwork. Just to save a little money. It may not be correctable. My eye is drawn to the imperfection.
Right, that's DIY. But any decent handyman can manage cutting out a square of drywall, installing some cross brace studs, screwing that same square of drywall, mud, sand, and paint and make it look perfect. And not charge a lot for it either.

My point is only that people are hesitant to even consider such an idea (regardless of it being DIY cost or professional cost) and will choose something else they don't want (the TV, the location, etc) instead of this very simple solution.

Also, again, you can't see the imperfection if it's behind the TV ;-)
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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mouth wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:00 pm
hvaclorax wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:52 pm
Some DIY looks great. The last thing I want is to have my project look like the homeowner’s unprofessional handiwork. Just to save a little money. It may not be correctable. My eye is drawn to the imperfection.
Right, that's DIY. But any decent handyman can manage cutting out a square of drywall, installing some cross brace studs, screwing that same square of drywall, mud, sand, and paint and make it look perfect. And not charge a lot for it either.

My point is only that people are hesitant to even consider such an idea (regardless of it being DIY cost or professional cost) and will choose something else they don't want (the TV, the location, etc) instead of this very simple solution.

Also, again, you can't see the imperfection if it's behind the TV ;-)
Consider but dismiss it. Not everyone has your skills, nor do we tolerate imperfections. Not yours, mine.
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hvaclorax wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:08 pm
mouth wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:00 pm

Right, that's DIY. But any decent handyman can manage cutting out a square of drywall, installing some cross brace studs, screwing that same square of drywall, mud, sand, and paint and make it look perfect. And not charge a lot for it either.

My point is only that people are hesitant to even consider such an idea (regardless of it being DIY cost or professional cost) and will choose something else they don't want (the TV, the location, etc) instead of this very simple solution.

Also, again, you can't see the imperfection if it's behind the TV ;-)
Consider but dismiss it. Not everyone has your skills, nor do we tolerate imperfections. Not yours, mine.
Hence hiring a handyman to do it. Obviously the other options are just to choose a different mount / location / TV. My point is that there is an option much more accessible than people (other people, not hvaclorax :) ) give it credit for. And for sure better than any toggle bolt. You wanna talk imperfection? let a toggle rip a hole in your wall. Okay those can be repaired perfectly as well ;-)
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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mouth wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2024 7:44 am
hvaclorax wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 2:08 pm
Consider but dismiss it. Not everyone has your skills, nor do we tolerate imperfections. Not yours, mine.
Hence hiring a handyman to do it. Obviously the other options are just to choose a different mount / location / TV. My point is that there is an option much more accessible than people (other people, not hvaclorax :) ) give it credit for. And for sure better than any toggle bolt. You wanna talk imperfection? let a toggle rip a hole in your wall. Okay those can be repaired perfectly as well ;-)
Your post says how. Mine says why not in the 5 thumbs crowd.
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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hvaclorax wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:52 pm
mouth wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:37 pm

Amazing how many people are afraid / unwilling to do this. In their defense, it usually still takes my brain a half second to accept that it isn't a big deal; but still it's only a half second :) Crazier, it's something I would (and have) done myself but I admit I still doubt my finishing skill. That's what makes your last sentence all the more important!!!
Some DIY looks great. The last thing I want is to have my project look like the homeowner’s unprofessional handiwork. Just to save a little money. It may not be correctable. My eye is drawn to the imperfection.
You must have one of the new fancy TVs that turn invisible when its its not in use.
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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Just answering the OP. Not sure where this is going. I’m OK with what has been said.
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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trek34 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2024 1:40 pm Just fyi

Displaying the arts require a subscription.
There are a number of "free" art images available, and you can upload your own art images directly to the TV for display using a Samsung app.
But yes, the unlimited art view requires a subscription.

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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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Thank you everyone for input. I needed up buying frame tv from Costco. Should come next week. Will post an update with my impression.
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Re: Samsung Frame TV?

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I bought an earlier model LG OLED because the difference of screen quality in the big box store was striking. Expensive but I felt the difference was worth it. First few years,Great. Then a burnin from the local news feed logo was evident. Did the fix that LG suggested with no change. The set offers different screen modes for variables in room brightness and type of offering be it sports, gaming, otherwise. All of those now seem not very good at all. Is the OLED technology really for the long run? Yes the viewing is superb initially but is the OLED tech a short lived electronic gimmick that has a short life? In my case, for the money it was not worth it due to the degraded screen quality after a few years. Maybe OLED has been reengineered in the last few years?
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