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Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.

PODCAST LINK> Episode 75: Jason Zweig talks about his life, career, books, and Benjamin Graham

Jason became a columnist for The Wall Street Journal in 2008. Before that, he was a senior writer for Money magazine and a guest columnist for Time magazine and Cnn.com. From 1987 to 1995, Jason was the mutual funds editor at Forbes. Earlier, he had been a reporter-researcher for the Economy & Business section of Time and an editorial assistant at Africa Report, a bimonthly journal.

Jason is the author of several books, Your Money and Your Brain, The Devil’s Financial Dictionary, The Little Book of Safe Money, and the editor of two revised editions of Benjamin Graham’s classic text The Intelligent Investor, which is discussed in this podcast.  

This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.

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++1 Thank you Rick and BH!
Interesting tidbits about Jason and some of his background, wisdom, works and books. Nice to know something new about him.
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I'm going to say "excellent" before I even listen to it. Thank you!
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Top notch guest!

Top notch host!

I’ll download and listen over the weekend.
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Great podcast. "Junior Vice President" :shock: :)
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Mr. Ferri:

Thank you for this excellent interview with Jason Zweig. The background about his parents getting into the antique collecting field and his own part in finding the Frederic Church painting (hidden under a coat of grime) was brand new to me. It led me to read more just about that topic with the painting ending up in the White House collection (Frederic Edwin Church, “Rutland Falls, Vermont” 1848).

The discussion about Benjamin Graham was a real treat. As were some of Jason Zweig's comments, such as "the real product of the financial services industry is complexity" and his observation that "many people who call themselves investors are just speculators" and are really "just guessing." It's a worthwhile listen for Bogleheads, especially those of us who read Mr. Zweig religiously in the Wall Street Journal.

Having attended the same school where Benjamin Graham once taught and where Warren Buffett also was a student, I look forward to the new edition of The Intelligent Investor and Mr. Zweig's commentary. May the book reach a new audience at a time when its wisdom is needed more than ever.

Thanks again for your work on the podcast, Mr. Ferri.

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Hat tip, Rick. This was one of the most enjoyable ones yet.
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Thanks, Rick :beer
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Yes, Jason is definitely a friend of the Bogleheads and one of the "good guys".

When he was with Money Magazine, he attended our second Bogleheads Conference in suburban Philadelphia and brought along a Money photographer. He wrote a great 8-page article with lots of pictures about us with Jack Bogle at the Conference titled "Here Come the Bogleheads". Here's a link to that article:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneyma ... 01/308655/
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This was a great listen. Definitely going to get both the “devils dictionary” and “devils financial dictionary”.
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Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is our guest on the "Bogleheads on Investing" podcast!
Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.
Mel Lindauer wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 pm Yes, Jason is definitely a friend of the Bogleheads and one of the "good guys".

When he was with Money Magazine, he attended our second Bogleheads Conference in suburban Philadelphia and brought along a Money photographer. He wrote a great 8-page article with lots of pictures about us with Jack Bogle at the Conference titled "Here Come the Bogleheads". Here's a link to that article:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneyma ... 01/308655/
Here is Jason's original article complete with pictures of Mel, Taylor, Michael Leboeuf, and Jack Bogle from Money Magazine, Sept. 2001, set out in 2 pdf articles from Jason's archives:

https://www.jasonzweig.com/wp-content/u ... heads1.pdf

https://www.jasonzweig.com/wp-content/u ... heads2.pdf

Many current Bogleheads came to the Vanguard Diehards forum, now the Bogleheads forum, after reading this article.
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Rick, thanks for another good podcast. I've read Jason's books that were discussed, but there were new thoughts about how the brain functions when making financial decisions, i.e., which, as he says, "circuits and structures" are guiding our decisions without our being consciously aware of them. I think it shows how much more is being learned about the brain since his book, Your Money & Your Brain, came out around 2007.
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Mel and Miriam2, it was great to again read Jason's article on the Bogleheads. Many good financial journalists have covered and described the Bogleheads well, but Jason's, IMO, was a smash hit, right to the end, my favorite part which I just have to repeat here:
As I head home, one image hangs in my memory. On Friday afternoon, when the group first gathers outside the hotel, a Boglehead wants to capture a group photo. "Cheese," she calls out from behind her lens, but not everyone smiles. "The market was down today!" she chirps, and grins spread across a few more faces. "The market was down today, and we don't care!" she yells, and now all the Diehards are smiling. Finally the mood is just right. She snaps her picture.
One thing that I've often wondered is the identify of the photographer who knew exactly what to ask the Diehards to finally get those smiles. Seems she should get some credit, but we'll probably never know.
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I enjoy Jason's column, The Intelligent Investor, in the Wall Street Journal.

I'm now following the Bogleheads on Investing podcast on Spotify and will listen to this on on the drive to and from a party tonight.
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Miriam2 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:01 pm
Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is our guest on the "Bogleheads on Investing" podcast!
Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.
Mel Lindauer wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 pm Yes, Jason is definitely a friend of the Bogleheads and one of the "good guys".

When he was with Money Magazine, he attended our second Bogleheads Conference in suburban Philadelphia and brought along a Money photographer. He wrote a great 8-page article with lots of pictures about us with Jack Bogle at the Conference titled "Here Come the Bogleheads". Here's a link to that article:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneyma ... 01/308655/
Here is Jason's original article complete with pictures of Mel, Taylor, Michael Leboeuf, and Jack Bogle from Money Magazine, Sept. 2001, set out in 2 pdf articles from Jason's archives:

https://www.jasonzweig.com/wp-content/u ... heads1.pdf

https://www.jasonzweig.com/wp-content/u ... heads2.pdf

Many current Bogleheads came to the Vanguard Diehards forum, now the Bogleheads forum, after reading this article.
Thanks for sharing this article. I especially love the part “call me Jack!”
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Mel Lindauer wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 pm Yes, Jason is definitely a friend of the Bogleheads and one of the "good guys".

When he was with Money Magazine, he attended our second Bogleheads Conference in suburban Philadelphia and brought along a Money photographer. He wrote a great 8-page article with lots of pictures about us with Jack Bogle at the Conference titled "Here Come the Bogleheads". Here's a link to that article:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneyma ... 01/308655/
Thank you very much for posting that link. Had not read that article. So glad you and Mr. Larimore are still so involved and helping others.
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I like Jason Zweig describing the bond between Bogleheads. Dr. Bernstein says that Bogleheads are in a separate (positive) universe. I think this is the bond. So few think like this...although as the internet has built out over the past 25ish years, more of us are finding each other. The moderators here help the bond by keeping out the contentious stuff that can mess up other forums.
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Leesbro63 wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:52 pm I like Jason Zweig describing the bond between Bogleheads. Dr. Bernstein says that Bogleheads are in a separate (positive) universe. I think this is the bond. So few think like this...although as the internet has built out over the past 25ish years, more of us are finding each other. The moderators here help the bond by keeping out the contentious stuff that can mess up other forums.
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Another great podcast. Thanks! Jason Zweig is an entertaining and very insightful interviewee.
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Excellent podcast guys. I feel like you guys were just getting started and it was over. We want more!
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nyejos11 wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:30 pm Excellent podcast guys. I feel like you guys were just getting started and it was over. We want more!
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I agree! We could’ve gone on for hours.
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Another vote for a Part 2. Charming discussion.
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Terrific podcast again!
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Terrific podcast.
Rick Ferri wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:08 pm
nyejos11 wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:30 pm Excellent podcast guys. I feel like you guys were just getting started and it was over. We want more!
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I agree! We could’ve gone on for hours.
I had the same feeling. I was surprised when it ended. I, too, want more. Also, I just finished listening to a two-hour podcast (discussing the book, The Power Broker) and I don't feel there's any reason why a podcast needs to be limited to an hour. One of Wikipedia's slogans is "Wikipedia is not paper," meaning that Wikipedia articles can be of widely varying lengths and almost no maximum size.

I found the stuff on speculation versus investment to be particularly interesting. John C. Bogle, of course, wrote a book entitled Clash of the Cultures: Investment versus Speculation. I don't think he ever tries to define the words; he makes a throwaway remark, p. 36, "The extent of this step-up in speculation—a word I’ve chosen as a proxy for rapid trading of financial instruments of all types—can be easily measured."
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Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.

PODCAST LINK> Episode 75: Jason Zweig talks about his life, career, books, and Benjamin Graham

Jason became a columnist for The Wall Street Journal in 2008. Before that, he was a senior writer for Money magazine and a guest columnist for Time magazine and Cnn.com. From 1987 to 1995, Jason was the mutual funds editor at Forbes. Earlier, he had been a reporter-researcher for the Economy & Business section of Time and an editorial assistant at Africa Report, a bimonthly journal.

Jason is the author of several books, Your Money and Your Brain, The Devil’s Financial Dictionary, The Little Book of Safe Money, and the editor of two revised editions of Benjamin Graham’s classic text The Intelligent Investor, which is discussed in this podcast.  

This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.

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nisiprius wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:42 pm I had the same feeling. I was surprised when it ended. I, too, want more. Also, I just finished listening to a two-hour podcast (discussing the book, The Power Broker) and I don't feel there's any reason why a podcast needs to be limited to an hour. One of Wikipedia's slogans is "Wikipedia is not paper," meaning that Wikipedia articles can be of widely varying lengths and almost no maximum size.
I'm pretty sure Rick does all his own editing of the podcast. And it's all volunteer work anyway. Obvious marketing benefit for his practice but he doesn't need to market that anyway. But my point is that one reason podcast lengths get limited is that there's a lot of work there besides just spending another hour interviewing. I think my AV guy who preps my podcast to go live and puts it on Youtube routinely spends 3X the time that I spend on the podcast between preparation and recording. Jason's busy, Rick's busy, and none of us are paying a thing for that content. There isn't even an ad on it. Maybe we should just be grateful it's an hour and not 12 minutes. High quality content creation is valuable stuff to be given for free.
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Jon Luskin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:44 am
Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.

PODCAST LINK> Episode 75: Jason Zweig talks about his life, career, books, and Benjamin Graham

Jason became a columnist for The Wall Street Journal in 2008. Before that, he was a senior writer for Money magazine and a guest columnist for Time magazine and Cnn.com. From 1987 to 1995, Jason was the mutual funds editor at Forbes. Earlier, he had been a reporter-researcher for the Economy & Business section of Time and an editorial assistant at Africa Report, a bimonthly journal.

Jason is the author of several books, Your Money and Your Brain, The Devil’s Financial Dictionary, The Little Book of Safe Money, and the editor of two revised editions of Benjamin Graham’s classic text The Intelligent Investor, which is discussed in this podcast.  

This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.

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https://boglecenter.net/bogleheads-on-i ... pisode-75/

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Mel Lindauer wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:54 pm Yes, Jason is definitely a friend of the Bogleheads and one of the "good guys".

When he was with Money Magazine, he attended our second Bogleheads Conference in suburban Philadelphia and brought along a Money photographer. He wrote a great 8-page article with lots of pictures about us with Jack Bogle at the Conference titled "Here Come the Bogleheads". Here's a link to that article:

https://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneyma ... 01/308655/
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A one-hour podcast takes about 40 hours each month, including contacting the guest, scheduling an interview time, reading books and articles they wrote, preparing questions, doing the interview, hours and hours of editing, and finally publishing.

Yeah, one hour is long enough.

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Rick Ferri wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:02 pm A one-hour podcast takes about 40 hours each month, including contacting the guest, scheduling an interview time, reading books and articles they wrote, preparing questions, doing the interview, hours and hours of editing, and finally publishing.

Yeah, one hour is long enough.

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White Coat Investor wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:12 am
nisiprius wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 2:42 pm I had the same feeling. I was surprised when it ended. I, too, want more. Also, I just finished listening to a two-hour podcast (discussing the book, The Power Broker) and I don't feel there's any reason why a podcast needs to be limited to an hour. One of Wikipedia's slogans is "Wikipedia is not paper," meaning that Wikipedia articles can be of widely varying lengths and almost no maximum size.
...But my point is that one reason podcast lengths get limited is that there's a lot of work there besides just spending another hour interviewing. I think my AV guy who preps my podcast to go live and puts it on Youtube routinely spends 3X the time that I spend on the podcast between preparation and recording. Jason's busy, Rick's busy, and none of us are paying a thing for that content. There isn't even an ad on it. Maybe we should just be grateful it's an hour and not 12 minutes. High quality content creation is valuable stuff to be given for free.
Rick Ferri wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:02 pm A one-hour podcast takes about 40 hours each month, including contacting the guest, scheduling an interview time, reading books and articles they wrote, preparing questions, doing the interview, hours and hours of editing, and finally publishing.

Yeah, one hour is long enough.

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AlwaysLearningMore wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:38 am
Jon Luskin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:44 am

You can find links to all your favorite podcast hosts on BogleCenter.net:

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Rick Ferri wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 9:02 pm A one-hour podcast takes about 40 hours each month, including contacting the guest, scheduling an interview time, reading books and articles they wrote, preparing questions, doing the interview, hours and hours of editing, and finally publishing.

Yeah, one hour is long enough.

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What I liked about this podcast is that it wasn't the usual focus of indexing, low fees, and stay the course. Rather, it delved into some of Jason's early background such as finding an old painting covered in soot at an auction, then restoring it so that it could find a new home in the White House.
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Harmanic wrote: Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:04 am What I liked about this podcast is that it wasn't the usual focus of indexing, low fees, and stay the course. Rather, it delved into some of Jason's early background such as finding an old painting covered in soot at an auction, then restoring it so that it could find a new home in the White House.
Agreed that it’s interesting to hear the personal stories of the experts and how they got here.
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Jon Luskin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:44 am
Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.

PODCAST LINK> Episode 75: Jason Zweig talks about his life, career, books, and Benjamin Graham

Jason became a columnist for The Wall Street Journal in 2008. Before that, he was a senior writer for Money magazine and a guest columnist for Time magazine and Cnn.com. From 1987 to 1995, Jason was the mutual funds editor at Forbes. Earlier, he had been a reporter-researcher for the Economy & Business section of Time and an editorial assistant at Africa Report, a bimonthly journal.

Jason is the author of several books, Your Money and Your Brain, The Devil’s Financial Dictionary, The Little Book of Safe Money, and the editor of two revised editions of Benjamin Graham’s classic text The Intelligent Investor, which is discussed in this podcast.  

This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.

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https://boglecenter.net/bogleheads-on-i ... pisode-75/

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Re: Jason Zweig is our guest on the "Bogleheads on Investing" podcast!

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Jon Luskin wrote: Mon Oct 28, 2024 12:04 pm
Jon Luskin wrote: Wed Oct 23, 2024 10:44 am

You can find links to all your favorite podcast hosts on BogleCenter.net:

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Transcripts coming soon!
Transcripts are now avaiable at:

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My thanks for those transcripts, which are needed to make sure I've heard podcasts correctly, not just Rick's, but all podcasts with their varying degrees of sound quality.
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Re: Jason Zweig is our guest on the "Bogleheads on Investing" podcast!

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I have read Jason Zweig's blogs on WSJ for years. Pretty decent but not exceptional commentary.
I recently saw him as a guest on The Compound hosted by Joshua Brown. I was very, very, (should I say very) disappointed that he did not even mention his Dad, Marty Zweig, as a possible if even minor influence on his outlook. I am old so I guess Wall Street Week with Louis Rukheyser is no longer relevant.
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Re: Jason Zweig is our guest on the "Bogleheads on Investing" podcast!

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tfunk wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:40 pm I have read Jason Zweig's blogs on WSJ for years. Pretty decent but not exceptional commentary.
I recently saw him as a guest on The Compound hosted by Joshua Brown. I was very, very, (should I say very) disappointed that he did not even mention his Dad, Marty Zweig, as a possible if even minor influence on his outlook. I am old so I guess Wall Street Week with Louis Rukheyser is no longer relevant.
According to Jason, his father is not named Marty Zweig and he is not related to Marty Zweig, the mutual fund manager. Jason's father was Irving, a professor at Ohio State and a respected antique dealer.

https://jasonzweig.com/a-portrait-of-th ... young-man/
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Marty Zweig is not related to Jason Zweig.
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Rick Ferri wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:59 pm Marty Zweig is not related to Jason Zweig.
Recent genetic data suggests that we all came from the same mother. There is also the identical ancestors point. Mating models also have come to the conclusion that we are at most, 50th (or so) cousins. We are all one, big happy family!

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Rick Ferri wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 6:20 am Jason Zweig is a well-known personal finance journalist, author, and a long-time friend of the Bogleheads.

PODCAST LINK> Episode 75: Jason Zweig talks about his life, career, books, and Benjamin Graham

Jason became a columnist for The Wall Street Journal in 2008. Before that, he was a senior writer for Money magazine and a guest columnist for Time magazine and Cnn.com. From 1987 to 1995, Jason was the mutual funds editor at Forbes. Earlier, he had been a reporter-researcher for the Economy & Business section of Time and an editorial assistant at Africa Report, a bimonthly journal.

Jason is the author of several books, Your Money and Your Brain, The Devil’s Financial Dictionary, The Little Book of Safe Money, and the editor of two revised editions of Benjamin Graham’s classic text The Intelligent Investor, which is discussed in this podcast.  

This podcast is supported by the John C. Bogle Center for Financial Literacy, a non-profit organization approved by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) public charity on February 6, 2012. Your tax-deductible donation to the Bogle Center is appreciated.

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Listened to it this week. Quite good and recommend it. Thanks for providing it to us!
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