Vanguard wrong cost basis reporting
Vanguard wrong cost basis reporting
I recently looked at my unrealized capital gains / losses tab, and noticed it looked off. I swapped the majority of my funds from VTWAX to VTSAX in August 2022. So, average acquisition price should be around $104-105, and there should be an unrealized short-term capital loss of about $10 per share, given the current price around $94.
However, the unrealized capital gains / losses tab shows an average acquisition price of around $94 per share, and a mix of long-term + short-term gain. It's the same acquisition price for all tax lots on different dates, including dividend reinvestments. Also, some of the tax lots show acquisition dates in 2018, 2019, etc. well-before I acquired the VTSAX shares.
I called customer support, and they were mostly confused. They said it could be due to switching to Spec ID cost basis reporting, which I did a few months ago. However, multiple things make no sense:
Why does it show tax lots from 2018, 2019, etc. before I purchased VTSAX?
Why is the average acquisition price ~$10 / share below the actual acquisition price? Maybe due to (1)?
They're looking into it, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm not expecting anyone here to resolve this, but wondering if anyone's seen similar issues? This seems like a very serious issue.
However, the unrealized capital gains / losses tab shows an average acquisition price of around $94 per share, and a mix of long-term + short-term gain. It's the same acquisition price for all tax lots on different dates, including dividend reinvestments. Also, some of the tax lots show acquisition dates in 2018, 2019, etc. well-before I acquired the VTSAX shares.
I called customer support, and they were mostly confused. They said it could be due to switching to Spec ID cost basis reporting, which I did a few months ago. However, multiple things make no sense:
Why does it show tax lots from 2018, 2019, etc. before I purchased VTSAX?
Why is the average acquisition price ~$10 / share below the actual acquisition price? Maybe due to (1)?
They're looking into it, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm not expecting anyone here to resolve this, but wondering if anyone's seen similar issues? This seems like a very serious issue.
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Welcome to the forum inb4space!
I rarely used the unrealized cost basis info at Vanguard because I keep my own spreadsheet to keep track of such things. But I did use both trade confirmation PDF statements and account transaction history to make sure my lot/purchase info matches theirs. What does that info show for you?
Hope it all works out for ya!
Not me.
I rarely used the unrealized cost basis info at Vanguard because I keep my own spreadsheet to keep track of such things. But I did use both trade confirmation PDF statements and account transaction history to make sure my lot/purchase info matches theirs. What does that info show for you?
Hope it all works out for ya!
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Sounds like a back end error.
Does not inspire confidence.
Does not inspire confidence.
not financial advice
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Re: Vanguard wrong cost basis reporting
How long after you bought VTSAX did you switch to specific ID? Were you using average cost before that?inb4space wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:17 am I recently looked at my unrealized capital gains / losses tab, and noticed it looked off. I swapped the majority of my funds from VTWAX to VTSAX in August 2022. So, average acquisition price should be around $104-105, and there should be an unrealized short-term capital loss of about $10 per share, given the current price around $94.
However, the unrealized capital gains / losses tab shows an average acquisition price of around $94 per share, and a mix of long-term + short-term gain. It's the same acquisition price for all tax lots on different dates, including dividend reinvestments. Also, some of the tax lots show acquisition dates in 2018, 2019, etc. well-before I acquired the VTSAX shares.
I called customer support, and they were mostly confused. They said it could be due to switching to Spec ID cost basis reporting, which I did a few months ago. However, multiple things make no sense:
Why does it show tax lots from 2018, 2019, etc. before I purchased VTSAX?
Why is the average acquisition price ~$10 / share below the actual acquisition price? Maybe due to (1)?
They're looking into it, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm not expecting anyone here to resolve this, but wondering if anyone's seen similar issues? This seems like a very serious issue.
"Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill.
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I'm not sure to either question unfortunately. My best guess is that it was at least a few months after I acquired most of my VTSAX shares. However, note that the average acquisition cost reported in my cost basis (around $94 / share) is not close to the actual average acquisition cost (around $104 / share).rossington wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:55 pm How long after you bought VTSAX did you switch to specific ID? Were you using average cost before that?
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If you reinvested dividends in September and December that would have changed your basis somewhat.inb4space wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:10 pmI'm not sure to either question unfortunately. My best guess is that it was at least a few months after I acquired most of my VTSAX shares. However, note that the average acquisition cost reported in my cost basis (around $94 / share) is not close to the actual average acquisition cost (around $104 / share).rossington wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:55 pm How long after you bought VTSAX did you switch to specific ID? Were you using average cost before that?
"Success is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm." Winston Churchill.
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reported_cost_basis = average_acquisition_price * (100% - yield) + average_dividend_price * (yield)rossington wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 4:01 pm If you reinvested dividends in September and December that would have changed your basis somewhat.
Assuming yield = 1.5%, so half that for those two quarters, ignoring compounding, assuming same price for each dividend:
94 = 104 * (1.0 - 0.0075) + price * 0.0075
The price at the time of the dividend would need be to -$1229 per share to bring my cost basis down to an average of $94 if my math is right
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You should be calling vanguard about this account specific question. Any answer here is pure speculation.inb4space wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:10 pmI'm not sure to either question unfortunately. My best guess is that it was at least a few months after I acquired most of my VTSAX shares. However, note that the average acquisition cost reported in my cost basis (around $94 / share) is not close to the actual average acquisition cost (around $104 / share).rossington wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:55 pm How long after you bought VTSAX did you switch to specific ID? Were you using average cost before that?
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Thanks, I did today, and they are looking into it. I'm wondering if this has happened to anyone else. It seems like a severe technical issue, and unlikely I'm the only person affected.
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Go to Statements - Order confirmation. Look up the confirmation in August 2022. It has the details you need to arrive at your cost basis.inb4space wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:17 am I recently looked at my unrealized capital gains / losses tab, and noticed it looked off. I swapped the majority of my funds from VTWAX to VTSAX in August 2022. So, average acquisition price should be around $104-105, and there should be an unrealized short-term capital loss of about $10 per share, given the current price around $94.
However, the unrealized capital gains / losses tab shows an average acquisition price of around $94 per share, and a mix of long-term + short-term gain. It's the same acquisition price for all tax lots on different dates, including dividend reinvestments. Also, some of the tax lots show acquisition dates in 2018, 2019, etc. well-before I acquired the VTSAX shares.
I called customer support, and they were mostly confused. They said it could be due to switching to Spec ID cost basis reporting, which I did a few months ago. However, multiple things make no sense:
Why does it show tax lots from 2018, 2019, etc. before I purchased VTSAX?
Why is the average acquisition price ~$10 / share below the actual acquisition price? Maybe due to (1)?
They're looking into it, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm not expecting anyone here to resolve this, but wondering if anyone's seen similar issues? This seems like a very serious issue.
I download all order confirmation and verify the cost basis after every transaction. Trust but verify. From my experience, I've never seen an error in cost basis yet (from either Fidelity, Vanguard, or ML)
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Here's my experience .... I executed a couple of tax loss harvesting manuevers yesterday selecting "SPEC-ID" lots.
As an example, I selected 500 Index lots purchased in 2022 (that I had losses in) for exchange to Total Stock Market Index. Yesterday, I had printed out the confirmation showing the 2022 lots exchanged and preliminarily calculated a loss of $ 1,000+.
I logged into my account today only to find a capital gain of $ 7,000+

When I looked at the Vanguard confirmation statement it listed a lot from 2016 being exchanged with "SPEC-ID".
Since it is the weekend, I am sending PDFs of the printed confirmations from yesterday via Vanguard's message process and will also call on Monday.
