I've had VBTLX in my taxable account for years and have never thought to change it until I just read through the "Bogleheads' Guide to the 3-Fund Portfolio". After some further research, it seems like VTEAX may be more appropriate for me. However, I came across some other threads that said VTEAX would only be appropriate if my tax bracket were higher. However, I'm still not clear why that is.
Because I an currently overseas and nearly all my income is exempt from US taxation (though I still report it), my tax bracket is 10%. That being the case, would it make sense for me to switch over to VTEAX? And if not, why wouldn't it be?
I do plan on moving back to the US within the next 3-5 years, so I expect my tax bracket to go up to 24% at some point.
VBTLX vs VTEAX for taxable account - low tax bracket
Re: VBTLX vs VTEAX for taxable account - low tax bracket
Taxable bonds yield more than muni bonds of comparable risk. My rule of thumb is that the break-even is a 25% tax rate, so that you should prefer munis in a lower bracket. The current yields on Total Bond Market and Tax-Exempt Bond Index are 2.69% and 3.27%, which suggests that investors believe the muni index is riskier, probably because it has somewhat lower-quality bonds.
Does the foreign income exclusion actually give you a very low marginal tax rate? My understanding is that you exclude the tax on up to $X of foreign income, but your marginal tax rate above $X is based on your total income. Thus you might well be in the 24% tax bracket even now, which is about the break-even point for munis. (Many investors in the 24% bracket actually have a 27.8% marginal tax rate because of the Net Investment Income tax.)
Does the foreign income exclusion actually give you a very low marginal tax rate? My understanding is that you exclude the tax on up to $X of foreign income, but your marginal tax rate above $X is based on your total income. Thus you might well be in the 24% tax bracket even now, which is about the break-even point for munis. (Many investors in the 24% bracket actually have a 27.8% marginal tax rate because of the Net Investment Income tax.)
Re: VBTLX vs VTEAX for taxable account - low tax bracket
Thanks for pointing that out. I just took another look and you are indeed correct. I'm actually at the 22% tax bracket at the moment.grabiner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:25 pm Taxable bonds yield more than muni bonds of comparable risk. My rule of thumb is that the break-even is a 25% tax rate, so that you should prefer munis in a lower bracket. The current yields on Total Bond Market and Tax-Exempt Bond Index are 2.69% and 3.27%, which suggests that investors believe the muni index is riskier, probably because it has somewhat lower-quality bonds.
Does the foreign income exclusion actually give you a very low marginal tax rate? My understanding is that you exclude the tax on up to $X of foreign income, but your marginal tax rate above $X is based on your total income. Thus you might well be in the 24% tax bracket even now, which is about the break-even point for munis. (Many investors in the 24% bracket actually have a 27.8% marginal tax rate because of the Net Investment Income tax.)
That said, would it make sense then to switch to VTEAX or just stay put?
Re: VBTLX vs VTEAX for taxable account - low tax bracket
At 22%, I would prefer the taxable fund, since you don't pay state tax and thus cannot benefit from a single-state fund. (If you move to CA when you return to the US, you might consider a CA muni fund then.)corner559 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:40 amThanks for pointing that out. I just took another look and you are indeed correct. I'm actually at the 22% tax bracket at the moment.grabiner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:25 pm Taxable bonds yield more than muni bonds of comparable risk. My rule of thumb is that the break-even is a 25% tax rate, so that you should prefer munis in a lower bracket. The current yields on Total Bond Market and Tax-Exempt Bond Index are 2.69% and 3.27%, which suggests that investors believe the muni index is riskier, probably because it has somewhat lower-quality bonds.
Does the foreign income exclusion actually give you a very low marginal tax rate? My understanding is that you exclude the tax on up to $X of foreign income, but your marginal tax rate above $X is based on your total income. Thus you might well be in the 24% tax bracket even now, which is about the break-even point for munis. (Many investors in the 24% bracket actually have a 27.8% marginal tax rate because of the Net Investment Income tax.)
That said, would it make sense then to switch to VTEAX or just stay put?
Another possible reason to avoid munis when overseas would be if your foreign income is subject to foreign tax; this depends on your country. You can take a credit for foreign tax paid, but only if you pay US tax on the same income.