Input on Patio Estimate

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FreddieG
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Input on Patio Estimate

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I am trying to get a 14' by 18' patio built off my kitchen. I was finally able to get someone to give me an estimate. It seems a bit high, but I don't have a lot of experience here. Would love to get input. The retaining wall referred here would be very approximatelu about 14' long and 1.5 high.

There would be some light excavation involved. Maybe about a foot deep at the far end of the patio where the retaining wall would go.

They want 10% at signing, 55% at start, and 35% at completion.

Please give me your thoughts on the price.

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FreddieG wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:54 pm I am trying to get a 14' by 18' patio built off my kitchen. I was finally able to get someone to give me an estimate. It seems a bit high, but I don't have a lot of experience here. Would love to get input. The retaining wall referred here would be very approximatelu about 14' long and 1.5 high.

There would be some light excavation involved. Maybe about a foot deep at the far end of the patio where the retaining wall would go.

They want 10% at signing, 55% at start, and 35% at completion.

Please give me your thoughts on the price.

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That doesn’t shock me.

I built a very similar sized patio myself about 15 years ago, using similar materials, but no seating wall. I think I spent about $4K on pavers, gravel base, etc. Material prices have gone up, I’m sure. And the material for the seating wall, adds to it.

I can’t tell you if it’s a good price or not. But it doesn’t surprise me, honestly. I like the polymeric sand…
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Can you find a list price for the materials online?

That would give you a base idea.
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I am just about to sign a contract for a 12x20 patio with a 2' x 4' "bump out" for a grill. Belgard Origins 12 Sable Blend with a Charcoal inset. Stone dust base (CR 6) approx. 6-8" thick, polymeric sand. $4800.00

Edit to add ... Forgot to mention that they are replacing the steps (2) from my porch to the patio with (I believe) Belgard Landings (need to confirm before ordering materials).
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I had about 600 sq ft of Cambridge pavers, a seating wall around a firepit and a few lights installed in 2019 for around $18k. This is in southern NJ.

I know it's a pain, but always get at least 3 estimates.
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Get more bids. My friends are doing similar work, patio, wall seating and some other work. The estimates vary from $21,000 to $14,000 for the same job.

This site might give a very rough estimate:

https://www.homewyse.com/services/index.html
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Without locations, this thread is meaningless. In India, it will be cheaper than New York.
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London wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:32 pm Without locations, this thread is meaningless. In India, it will be cheaper than New York.
Outside Denver.
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Ask for an itemized estimate of all materials and labor including hours and rate.
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I'm outside Chicago, which I would consider to be a fairly HCOL. In 2019, here's what I paid for a unilock brick paver patio.

Remove/Haul Existing Deck
Patio/Walkway total 698 SF - $13262
Stoop - 2 Steps - $1700
Square Natural Gas Firepit - $3200

I think yours sounds high to me, but I do remember the seat walls being much more expensive than I would've thought.

I know it's harder these days, but I would definitely get multiple quotes. What I did was book the appointments around now and had them going into Oct/Nov/Dec. I had the contract signed in Jan and was ready to go right when it thawed. We got 4 quotes.
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2013
Similar size
Similar location
Lesser quality construction (cheaper pavers)
$6+K

Good Yelp reviews https://www.yelp.com/biz/landscape-fx-colorado-springs


Sign the contract.
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Other thing I will mention is that the quotes for these patios could be all over the board, so it's helpful to really nail down the specifics. Just doing a walkthru with the contractors, our quotes ranged from $18K-$40K. Sometimes you throw out so many ideas to these guys and they just give you all the bells and whistles.

The other thing that I noticed is that some of the quotes were in line from a price per SF, but they were estimating way on the high side for the size of the patio. Do your own measurements so you know if they try to go high on you.
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