Alternatives to LTT? Min correlation with TM + dividends

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Alternatives to LTT? Min correlation with TM + dividends

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Hi all,

Right now I use Long Term Treasuries as 50% of my fixed income part of portfolio. There are few interesting threads about current market and LTT. I'm struggling to find an alternative which has min correlation with stocks (VTI let's say) but still pays some dividends/distribution - so stuff like GLD doesn't really work.

Any suggestions?
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$GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
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gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:32 pm Hi all,

Right now I use Long Term Treasuries as 50% of my fixed income part of portfolio. There are few interesting threads about current market and LTT. I'm struggling to find an alternative which has min correlation with stocks (VTI let's say) but still pays some dividends/distribution - so stuff like GLD doesn't really work.

Any suggestions?
Ignore the threads about the “current market”.

Long term Treasuries remain the best diversification available.
"Far more money has been lost by investors preparing for corrections than has been lost in corrections themselves." ~~ Peter Lynch
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gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:32 pm Any suggestions?
MYGA?
37% VTI | 37% VXUS | 13% I-bonds | 13% EE-bonds
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ivgrivchuck wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:18 pm
gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:32 pm Any suggestions?
MYGA?
Hmm that might be an interesting option actually
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Forester wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm $GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
These look like some questionable strategies with huge expense ratios :annoyed
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gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:13 pm
Forester wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm $GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
These look like some questionable strategies with huge expense ratios :annoyed
What about IVOL
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Always passive wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:06 am
gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:13 pm
Forester wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm $GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
These look like some questionable strategies with huge expense ratios :annoyed
What about IVOL
Yes that's another one. And fund of funds https://mutinyfund.com/
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Forester wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:30 am
Always passive wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:06 am
gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:13 pm
Forester wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm $GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
These look like some questionable strategies with huge expense ratios :annoyed
What about IVOL
Yes that's another one. And fund of funds https://mutinyfund.com/
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What the heck?
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cos wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:36 pm
Forester wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:30 am
Always passive wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:06 am
gogreen wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:13 pm
Forester wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:29 pm $GBLMX - multistrat alternative fund
$TAIL - out of the money put options
$ROMO - equity trend following
These look like some questionable strategies with huge expense ratios :annoyed
What about IVOL
Yes that's another one. And fund of funds https://mutinyfund.com/
Image

What the heck?
It looks like a levered version of the Dragon Portfolio.
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