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Shackleton wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:32 am A lot of this will depend on the type of HOA. Some HOAs are all about forcing conformity of all homeowners to their ideal "perfect" visions (see X-Files "Arcadia" episode
Is that the one where the mudman eliminates those who don't comply with the CC&Rs? It was a good show.
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RickBoglehead wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:16 am We have lived in two HOAs, one starting in 1996, one starting in 2007. I served on the board of the first one for 3 years as President.

My advice is to RUN, RUN, AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Let me explain why. HOAs are horrible, IMO. They are bastions of strife, where maybe 10 - 20% of the residents care about what's going on, and the rest don't. And many of the rest violate the rules that are designed to make the community a nicer place. I can list example after example, but that's not your question.

Those that serve on HOA boards fit several profiles. The first profile is the lawyer/wannabe lawyer that wants to make legal pronouncements on every matter brought before the board. Good chance this lawyer/wannabe lawyer hasn't even read the documents governing the community.

Another type is the agenda-driven member. This person wants to accomplish something, one thing, very badly. They'll push and push this one agenda item until it's approved, or until it's disapproved. Then they'll cease to participate.

Another is the former SVP that is now retired and wants to do everything the way his/her big corporation did.

A further type is the volunteer, the person that volunteers for everything and is totally clueless.

What you'll find is that on a 5 person board, 1 or 2 people do all the work. Or they hire a professional management company and pay them too much to do too little.

And, it's a thankless job. You will tick off 50%+ of the community no matter what you do.

I became President in our first community when there was constant turmoil and the upkeep was lacking. 4 homes refused to pay dues. I took over in a sweep of the board, all but 1 member replaced. We then did all the maintenance items, got the 4 homes to pay their dues current (or I'd file a lien), forced a bank to upkeep a property they took over, etc. By the end of year 2 I wasn't having fun. At the end of year 3 I didn't stand for re-election. And we moved soon thereafter to another state.

In our current community, last year we didn't have a quorum at the annual meeting. Rules say to adjourn and reschedule. Lawyer/President said "let's have an unofficial meeting and I'll consult with our attorney later to see if it's legal". Of course minutes don't reflect any commitment to consult, and at the non-meeting we "elected" two officers.

Today, you couldn't get me to serve on an HOA board for a huge amount of money. In addition, as we consider relocating for retirement, NO HOA is top of our list of features. While I MIGHT consider an HOA community if we hit all the other hot buttons, it will only be after close examination of the by-laws, the legal obligations (i.e. property owned), the history, etc. I would rather none.

If you still decide to serve (forum rules don't permit me to say that less nicely...), make sure you verify that the association has in place significant director/officer liability insurance, and check with your homeowner's insurance regarding coverage if sued.
+1. Largely what I've experienced. We have to beg people to be on our board.

The worst part is people don't appreciate your time...they just want to complain about every little thing. Many want everything perfect and top notch service at bottom dollar assessments. You will likely be blamed for anything that goes wrong and not thanked (or people won't even notice) for anything that goes well.

There is often a busybody on the board too who wants to pass silly rules and then cite people for them as a way to pass their time.

I'll add that some HOAs only exist because they have a sign at the entrance to the community or something like that and that is something else.
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whodidntante wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:54 pm
Shackleton wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:32 am A lot of this will depend on the type of HOA. Some HOAs are all about forcing conformity of all homeowners to their ideal "perfect" visions (see X-Files "Arcadia" episode
Is that the one where the mudman eliminates those who don't comply with the CC&Rs? It was a good show.
Yes! The "thought monster" goes after those that don't conform to the CC&Rs. I always think of that episode when over-reaching HOAs come up.
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In our area, we are required to have a HOA when the neighborhoods are built out. No one here really wants to be on the board, but we work hard to keep the board full. If we don't have enough folks volunteer to be board members, we would have to hire a management company for our neighborhood. No one wants that to happen because it would at least triple our HOA dues!!! If we need to vote on something, we put proxies on everyone's door and/or mass email them so we have enough people to vote. We have a core group of about 15 people that participate on a regular basis. Majority of owners don't care and won't participate. As long as we are able to collect HOA dues from everyone, we can take care of neighborhood (landscaping at our two entrances, maintain the fence around the neighborhood (required by city), and have a picnic for National Night Out. We have no amenities to upkeep, thank goodness. I was the neighborhood watch leader for three years. It really can be a thankless job I know.

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Shackleton wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:57 pm
whodidntante wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:54 pm
Shackleton wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:32 am A lot of this will depend on the type of HOA. Some HOAs are all about forcing conformity of all homeowners to their ideal "perfect" visions (see X-Files "Arcadia" episode
Is that the one where the mudman eliminates those who don't comply with the CC&Rs? It was a good show.
Yes! The "thought monster" goes after those that don't conform to the CC&Rs. I always think of that episode when over-reaching HOAs come up.
That show is timeless. Well, except for the scenes where they use mobile phones. :happy
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baliktad wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:09 pm Board member for 12 years, president for 5. Like other posters above, better to be on the board and know what's going on than to not be on the board and have the seat filled by someone clueless or worse, someone with an agenda.

A HOA is a Property Management company. Not the Neighborhood Police. Not the Neighborhood Court System. A Property Management company that exists to take care of specific property in perpetuity, that happens to operate as a volunteer not-for-profit corporation rather than a for-profit business. Many owners don't understand this, and treat the HOA like any other utility: pay the bill every month, complain when rates go up, but otherwise don't think about it much until something is broken. Do you thank (or even think about) the board of commissioners who run your local water/sewer district? Do you know their names or what they do, or how well the water treatment facilities are running, or whether the water district will have enough money for a new holding tank when the time comes? This is how many people treat HOA board members. "Not my life, not my problem." Be prepared for this.

Running a HOA is work. Running a HOA effectively is very hard work. Running a HOA effectively after it has been mismanaged for years or decades is nigh impossible, but it can be done.

The first step is to Get Help. It took me years to realize that my HOA's problems weren't even the slightest bit unique. Every problem your HOA has, has happened many times before in very similar circumstances. People don't pay their dues, people complain about pets pooping, people complain about where their neighbors park, or the noise, or the smell, or anything else that happens when people live in close quarters. All of these seem like local, my-HOA-specific problems when you see them from your seat on the board, but these are all common circumstances and there's lots of thought and experience from others in identical situations you can lean on. Join CAI for access to a bunch of resources: contacts, vendors, reference materials. The CAI Board Member Toolkit is a great place to start reading to get your bearings.

After many years of board service, I've boiled down our board's priorities to these 2 goals:
  • Protect the Property (know what the HOA is responsible for, keep things in good repair and working order, do the required maintenance before stuff breaks)
  • Protect the Money (collect dues on time, obtain & understand a reserve study, save properly for future expenses, reduce costs where possible)
It's amazing how everything falls into perspective when you really focus on these 2 points. Everything the HOA does should accrue to one of these goals. Everything else: the neighbor squabbles, the nitpicking, the gossip, the complaints, the garbage cans, everything else will fall to the wayside if you can concentrate on just those two. (This doesn't really reduce the work, but it can help you recognize what work is important and what's not.)

Some other resources:

/r/HOA - Younger crowd and a lot of "Can my HOA really do this?" but useful engagement
HOATalk forums - Largely volunteer board members, mostly good insights with a few jaded tyrants seeking validation
Your HOA's CC&R's - This is your HOA Bible, have a copy and try to at least skim it so you understand the rules everyone has already agreed to
Outstanding post! Thanks!
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Whatever you do don’t end up like this HOA:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/us/flagp ... index.html
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ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:49 am Whatever you do don’t end up like this HOA:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/us/flagp ... index.html
I agree. Some amount of flexibility is an important part of being on a well functioning HOA board. There's no doubt we'd allow something like that, for that reason, for a set period of time.

In my ten years on our board we've overlooked several situations:
We have a strict one dog per unit rule which we enforce. we have plenty of dogs the way it is. But when we saw a woman walking two dogs, before we did anything we learned that one of the dogs was on it's last legs and the other dog was a puppy to replace it. We did not make an issue of it.
We also don't allow renting a unit owner's parking space to someone who doesn't live in our condo. But a very elderly woman had to give up driving and her car. When her daughter moved into a rental very near us, we said it was OK for her to use her mother's space, especially since she drives her mother to Doctor's appointments and such.
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Steelersfan wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:17 pm
ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:49 am Whatever you do don’t end up like this HOA:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/us/flagp ... index.html
I agree. Some amount of flexibility is an important part of being on a well functioning HOA board. There's no doubt we'd allow something like that, for that reason, for a set period of time.

In my ten years on our board we've overlooked several situations:
We have a strict one dog per unit rule which we enforce. we have plenty of dogs the way it is. But when we saw a woman walking two dogs, before we did anything we learned that one of the dogs was on it's last legs and the other dog was a puppy to replace it. We did not make an issue of it.
We also don't allow renting a unit owner's parking space to someone who doesn't live in our condo. But a very elderly woman had to give up driving and her car. When her daughter moved into a rental very near us, we said it was OK for her to use her mother's space, especially since she drives her mother to Doctor's appointments and such.
I wish all boards were as level headed as yours!
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JoeRetire wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:05 pm Have you attended Board Meetings in the past, so that you have a sense of how your particular board works together? Why did one member step down?

I had been looking for ways to help our community since we moved here over 7 years ago. Shortly after getting here, I created our HOA's website and I still run it. I took over our HOA's Treasurer role for the past few years. Earlier this year I was asked to run for a seat on the board. I ran and got elected. We have an interesting cast of characters currently on the board.

For me, it's been pretty much all good. I get to help our friends. People seem to appreciate it. Things get done. I enjoy it. I tend to be of the "if you want things right, do them yourself" mindset.

It is a bit more work, but not a big deal for me. Our HOA is pretty small (34 units), and the work isn't huge. Sometimes issues come up that require a difficult/awkward conversation with one or more homeowners. But nothing we can't handle so far.

Give it a try and see what happens. You might well enjoy it.
Pretty much like myself.I've been on the board about 5 years now, treasurer for about 4, and run the website (which I think I'll be able to hand off this year to a new board member, and I plan to step down from the board and as treasurer when my current term ends after next year). In the past, my wife has served time on the board and been the treasurer as well. Also, I *DON'T* want an overly activist HOA, so being on the board help with that!

I see it as 1) like jury duty, a civic obligation to serve from time to time, as if we had to hire a management company the annual assessments would likely quadruple. (We have a small, 48 home neighborhood). Our board, FYI, tries to have 9 people on it, elected for 3 year terms, 1/3rd of the seats open up each year. Some always have to recruit new members (we try to get turnover and a mix of returning and new board members every year). Some years we have to recruit 1 or 2 candidates the day of the election, which, pre-COVID, we hold at our annual picnic and meeting.

It's mostly a nice way to deal with minor things that need doing and get together regularly with some of the neighbors (via Zoom this past year). Yes, there are occassionally headaches and 1 or 2 annoying homeowners. We just resolved one issue with a covenants violation that impacted a neighbor of the violating property and dragged on for 18 months. But those are relatively rare.

DO be sure the HOA Board has D&O insurance, as others have said. Unlike others, unless you have a lot of HOA-owned property and capital items (like a townhome association), I think you're too small to want to hire an HOA management company. I live in Virginia, and frankly the biggest recurring hassle, which isn't THAT big, is the state keeps adding rules year after year that we need to track, and update the state-mandated disclosure packet for prospective buyers. We have to send out dues reminders and a few people are a little late each year, but that only really affects the treasurer. We did have to file a lien on one house, which didn't pay for several years, but that was a very rare exception.

Bottom line: if you're interested, it's worth doing, so long as the board isn't toxic.
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Elric wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:15 pm I see it as 1) like jury duty, a civic obligation to serve from time to time, as if we had to hire a management company the annual assessments would likely quadruple. (We have a small, 48 home neighborhood).
Agreed! We keep our costs low, and our rules less stringent that way. That's good for me.

The biggest current hassle is that our President doesn't own or use a computer! So I constantly have to print things out and give them to her. She's also the head of the Landscaping Committee and the vendors involved always send her emails to me. Ugh! If I had my way, everyone on the Board and every Committee head would need to have and use a computer. Things would be much simpler. Oh well.
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RickBoglehead wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:16 am We have lived in two HOAs, one starting in 1996, one starting in 2007. I served on the board of the first one for 3 years as President.

My advice is to RUN, RUN, AS FAST AS YOU CAN.

Let me explain why. HOAs are horrible, IMO. They are bastions of strife, where maybe 10 - 20% of the residents care about what's going on, and the rest don't. And many of the rest violate the rules that are designed to make the community a nicer place. I can list example after example, but that's not your question.

Those that serve on HOA boards fit several profiles. The first profile is the lawyer/wannabe lawyer that wants to make legal pronouncements on every matter brought before the board. Good chance this lawyer/wannabe lawyer hasn't even read the documents governing the community.

Another type is the agenda-driven member. This person wants to accomplish something, one thing, very badly. They'll push and push this one agenda item until it's approved, or until it's disapproved. Then they'll cease to participate.

Another is the former SVP that is now retired and wants to do everything the way his/her big corporation did.

A further type is the volunteer, the person that volunteers for everything and is totally clueless.

What you'll find is that on a 5 person board, 1 or 2 people do all the work. Or they hire a professional management company and pay them too much to do too little.

And, it's a thankless job. You will tick off 50%+ of the community no matter what you do.

I became President in our first community when there was constant turmoil and the upkeep was lacking. 4 homes refused to pay dues. I took over in a sweep of the board, all but 1 member replaced. We then did all the maintenance items, got the 4 homes to pay their dues current (or I'd file a lien), forced a bank to upkeep a property they took over, etc. By the end of year 2 I wasn't having fun. At the end of year 3 I didn't stand for re-election. And we moved soon thereafter to another state.

In our current community, last year we didn't have a quorum at the annual meeting. Rules say to adjourn and reschedule. Lawyer/President said "let's have an unofficial meeting and I'll consult with our attorney later to see if it's legal". Of course minutes don't reflect any commitment to consult, and at the non-meeting we "elected" two officers.

Today, you couldn't get me to serve on an HOA board for a huge amount of money. In addition, as we consider relocating for retirement, NO HOA is top of our list of features. While I MIGHT consider an HOA community if we hit all the other hot buttons, it will only be after close examination of the by-laws, the legal obligations (i.e. property owned), the history, etc. I would rather none.

If you still decide to serve (forum rules don't permit me to say that less nicely...), make sure you verify that the association has in place significant director/officer liability insurance, and check with your homeowner's insurance regarding coverage if sued.
+1000 and get ready to be called all kinds of names should you try and enforce something.
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Boards, chairs, and committees....etc.

Depending on positions.
And depending if position is code compliance
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You will be noticed
You will be liked or disliked or resented
You will make friends....and alliances...or otherwise
Sometimes it feels important
Sometimes it is rewarding ....or thankless
You can make a positive difference and make changes to benefit others equitably.....or feels like treading water.
You will or will not have authority and influence over others.

Sometimes it is like owning a boat where the most exciting days at when first starting and when ending.
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Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
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alfaspider wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:14 pm Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
Perfectly reasonable reaction, until for whatever reasons, sometimes financial, you choose to live in a condo or townhouse. Then you share walls and common spaces. Your neighbors “common sense” or lack thereof then tends to bother you when they leave dog poop bags in your lawn, party loudly at midnight or burn your lawn out with dog pee. Then it starts to get petty.

Essentially, when you make space shared, people, inherently selfish, tend to get crazy. And those same selfish people make up hoa board members. You can’t legislate common sense or good manners, but most HOA’s are meant for that purpose.
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miamivice wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:56 am Just recently, I was invited to join the HOA board. I had put together a presentation of some concerns around our neighborhood, it impressed the board, and they decided that maybe I should join. They apparently had someone recently step down and need to backfill the position.

For those folks who have served on the board, I am wondering what the pros/cons of board membership are? For what reasons might this be a good or bad thing?
You get to have a say in HOA due increases. When I was in one, 50% of HOA dues went unspent, yet they kept on hiking the dues year after year.
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Turkishcoffee wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:18 pm
alfaspider wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:14 pm Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
Perfectly reasonable reaction, until for whatever reasons, sometimes financial, you choose to live in a condo or townhouse. Then you share walls and common spaces. Your neighbors “common sense” or lack thereof then tends to bother you when they leave dog poop bags in your lawn, party loudly at midnight or burn your lawn out with dog pee. Then it starts to get petty.

Essentially, when you make space shared, people, inherently selfish, tend to get crazy. And those same selfish people make up hoa board members. You can’t legislate common sense or good manners, but most HOA’s are meant for that purpose.
Well said!
Good points.

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I was President of our Municipal Utility District (a Texas thing) and most of the time we did not have to deal with homeowner issues, but when they came up it was simply miserable dealing with it. Folks when dealing with their home owner issues are just jerks at times. I never ever, even remotely considered serving on our HOA due to people just turn into jerks when it comes to their homes and property. This is the type of crap that keeps you up at night because people can be so rude and inconsiderate. Once you start dealing with enforcement of rules and regulations for the HOA then it gets really fun. As stated before run away from this as fast as you can.
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NotWhoYouThink wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:21 pm
miamivice wrote: Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:56 am Just recently, I was invited to join the HOA board. I had put together a presentation of some concerns around our neighborhood, it impressed the board, and they decided that maybe I should join. They apparently had someone recently step down and need to backfill the position.

For those folks who have served on the board, I am wondering what the pros/cons of board membership are? For what reasons might this be a good or bad thing?
Yes, some homeowners treat you like an employee and are always making some requests, some quite inane. I found the best way to deal with them was to agree to form an ad hoc committee to look into whatever complaint they had and for them to chair such committee. That always ended the complaint or concern.
Sounds like it might work in this case.
I agree this is what is happening.
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baliktad wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:09 pm Board member for 12 years, president for 5. Like other posters above, better to be on the board and know what's going on than to not be on the board and have the seat filled by someone clueless or worse, someone with an agenda.

A HOA is a Property Management company. Not the Neighborhood Police. Not the Neighborhood Court System. A Property Management company that exists to take care of specific property in perpetuity, that happens to operate as a volunteer not-for-profit corporation rather than a for-profit business. Many owners don't understand this, and treat the HOA like any other utility: pay the bill every month, complain when rates go up, but otherwise don't think about it much until something is broken. Do you thank (or even think about) the board of commissioners who run your local water/sewer district? Do you know their names or what they do, or how well the water treatment facilities are running, or whether the water district will have enough money for a new holding tank when the time comes? This is how many people treat HOA board members. "Not my life, not my problem." Be prepared for this.
HOA is not a management company. HOA hires a management company. Big difference. The problem occur when folks on the board start acting like local fiefs instead of understanding that it is a volunteer position to serve fellow homeowners.
Running a HOA is work. Running a HOA effectively is very hard work. Running a HOA effectively after it has been mismanaged for years or decades is nigh impossible, but it can be done.
You can work hard, or you can work smart. I have been in two boards - I quit after serving for two years in one; have been in the other one for over a decade now.
[...]People don't pay their dues, people complain about pets pooping, people complain about where their neighbors park, or the noise, or the smell, or anything else that happens when people live in close quarters.[...]
Other than the dues aspect, I don't understand why HOA should even be involved in the other items mentioned! Surely there are areas in the country without HOAs and folks get along just fine?

One thing I still dislike is how HOAs have all these rules about approved colours for painting, etc. And the discussion on how your property values are impacted by neighbour's colour scheme! Believe me, with today's interest rates, houses will fly off the proverbial shelf even if your neighbour paints his/her house a garish pink ... if you live in the right location, of course!
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Steelersfan wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:17 pm
ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:49 am Whatever you do don’t end up like this HOA:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/17/us/flagp ... index.html
I agree. Some amount of flexibility is an important part of being on a well functioning HOA board. There's no doubt we'd allow something like that, for that reason, for a set period of time.

In my ten years on our board we've overlooked several situations:
We have a strict one dog per unit rule which we enforce. we have plenty of dogs the way it is. But when we saw a woman walking two dogs, before we did anything we learned that one of the dogs was on it's last legs and the other dog was a puppy to replace it. We did not make an issue of it.
We also don't allow renting a unit owner's parking space to someone who doesn't live in our condo. But a very elderly woman had to give up driving and her car. When her daughter moved into a rental very near us, we said it was OK for her to use her mother's space, especially since she drives her mother to Doctor's appointments and such.
That's a good board.
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alfaspider wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:14 pm Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
Agreed.

Which part of the country do you live in? It matters! For instance, my understanding is that it's rare for a place in FL not to have an HOA.
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Re: Invited to join HOA board. Pros/cons?

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an_asker wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:17 am
alfaspider wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:14 pm Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
Agreed.

Which part of the country do you live in? It matters! For instance, my understanding is that it's rare for a place in FL not to have an HOA.
Texas. It's an older neighborhood (first developed 1960s) that may have had a HOA at one point, but does not anymore.
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Re: Invited to join HOA board. Pros/cons?

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Turkishcoffee wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:18 pm
alfaspider wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:14 pm Every time I read threads like this, I am so happy that I don't have an HOA to worry about.

Rules governing who can park in my own driveway or how many dogs I can have? I don't care how reasonable the board is about it, that should be nobody's business but mine.
Perfectly reasonable reaction, until for whatever reasons, sometimes financial, you choose to live in a condo or townhouse. Then you share walls and common spaces. Your neighbors “common sense” or lack thereof then tends to bother you when they leave dog poop bags in your lawn, party loudly at midnight or burn your lawn out with dog pee. Then it starts to get petty.

Essentially, when you make space shared, people, inherently selfish, tend to get crazy. And those same selfish people make up hoa board members. You can’t legislate common sense or good manners, but most HOA’s are meant for that purpose.
After living in apartments and townhouses on the East Coast, I said "never again" to any dwelling unit that shares a wall, floor, or ceiling with anybody else's. If I'm ever forced into an apartment due to economics, I will be renting.
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Re: Invited to join HOA board. Pros/cons?

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Whenever I lived in an HOA, I was on the board at some time. I saw it as a way to know what was going on and protect my investment.

Some HOA boards are cutthroat. Others work by consensus. Some are dominated by one person, others not. Some are very hands on; some not. Some are ignorant of the laws governing HOA's, others not. If it is a board which works by consensus and follows statute, I would take the position since it is for a more limited time than a full term. You might find you hate it or that you love it - we had two people who were very good and who had been on the board for over a decade developing an expertise which was difficult to acquire.

Yes, it is work, yes, some people don't appreciate the work, but most do and that appreciation will follow when after being on the board, you raise a concern. I noticed boards pay very close attention to people who have "paid their dues" so to speak by being on the board and even to those who at least tried but could not hack it.

Just be sure they have D&O insurance.
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