People with Covid-19 vaccination record cards: where are you keeping them?

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michaeljc70 wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:44 pmMy vaccination was done by a hospital and my card has a barcode, medical record number, Contact Serial Number, name, DOB, date of each dose and vaccine type/lot. I assume the hospital could easily verify the vaccination with this info. They verified my ID when registering before the jab at the facility. Someone could have taken my spot though if I gave them the card I suppose after the ID verification as it was a separate area than the jab area. If they don't ask for ID or aren't sure who is getting the jab the data in their system isn't really much better than a hand written card.

My (large) city and state seem to have updated vaccination counts daily but I don't know if they are just getting generic data or data with names, dob, etc. attached to it. I would think the former due to HIPAA, but who knows what I signed when signing up for the vaccine.
LOL. FOIA is easier to navigate than HIPAA.
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protagonist wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:57 am
According to today's Wash.Post, the Biden administration is working on a COVID vaccine passport rollout:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... da95abeb31
Apparently not really.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-vacc ... te-sector/
But the Biden administration is making one thing clear — the federal government won't be the one issuing a vaccine credential, or storing citizens' vaccination information in a database.

"This is going to hit all parts of society, and so naturally, the government is involved," Andy Slavitt, acting director for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said during a White House COVID-19 briefing Monday. "But unlike other parts of the world, the government here is not viewing its role as the place to create a passport, nor a place to hold the data of — of citizens. We view this as something that the private sector is doing and will do. What's important to us, and we're leading an interagency process right now to go through these details, are that some important criteria be met with these credentials."

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Psaki said the Biden administration is mostly focused on creating guidelines that can be used as a basis for private sector endeavors.
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Upon receipt of each dose:

1. Dose administrator has recorded my info in their computers
2. I then entered the date, mft and lot number of each dose in my own health care provider's form in their iPhone App (it was under 'questionaires tab`)
3. Took photograph of card on iPhone for backup
4. Will next laminate the card and tuck it into a wallet or my passport

I think that is sufficient redundancy for evidence of the vaccination.
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Not sure why they don't just include this as a feature in the mobile passport app in some form or another.
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TravelGeek wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 2:59 pm
protagonist wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:57 am
According to today's Wash.Post, the Biden administration is working on a COVID vaccine passport rollout:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... da95abeb31
Apparently not really.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-vacc ... te-sector/
But the Biden administration is making one thing clear — the federal government won't be the one issuing a vaccine credential, or storing citizens' vaccination information in a database.

"This is going to hit all parts of society, and so naturally, the government is involved," Andy Slavitt, acting director for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said during a White House COVID-19 briefing Monday. "But unlike other parts of the world, the government here is not viewing its role as the place to create a passport, nor a place to hold the data of — of citizens. We view this as something that the private sector is doing and will do. What's important to us, and we're leading an interagency process right now to go through these details, are that some important criteria be met with these credentials."

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Psaki said the Biden administration is mostly focused on creating guidelines that can be used as a basis for private sector endeavors.
Nate79 wrote: Tue Mar 30, 2021 3:31 pm Not sure why they don't just include this as a feature in the mobile passport app in some form or another.
WaPo article included a slide deck on some Federal government meeting on the topic of COVID-19 Vaccine Credentials Discussion in early March. There are three challenges to overcome.
1. How to source the data (eg face value vaccine cards are not acceptable as a "passport"). Vaccination data sits in state/local government vaccine registry/insurers database.
2. How users can demonstrate authenticated results (credentials) (eg Excelsior pass, IATA Travel Pass etc)
3. Getting foreign governments/businesses/event organizers to agree to a standard. Currently there are about 20 different credentials solutions floating around.

I'm guessing this turns into a chicken/egg problem even without HIPAA concerns (eg state/insurer want to invest/integrate with credentials solutions with the most acceptance by foreign governments/businesses but foreign governments/businesses want to accept/invest/integrate with credentials solutions offering the most vaccination data).

Highly doubt this can be worked out by Summer or even end of the year.
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It is laminated and in my wallet next to my medicare card.
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There are studies in progress on a additional (3rd) dose of Moderna/Pfizer and 2nd doe for J&J so you may potentially have to undo the lamination.
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Clipped to the appointment reminder for my next doctor visit.
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michaeljc70 wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 4:36 pm
adamthesmythe wrote: Sun Mar 28, 2021 3:33 pm About "passports"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... -for-work/

I don't think any reasonable person expects the paper cards to have any use to prove vaccination. I expect some combination of a phone app and database will happen. It is not surprising this is still being worked out, with getting shots into arms being the first and highest priority.

I anticipate that for the near future you can either have absolute privacy or the right to travel, not both.

By the way, at least one university will require vaccination for on-campus classes.
You care if someone knows you were vaccinated? People have needed to prove vaccinations of one sort or another when traveling to certain countries for decades.
I still have my yellow fever vaccine certificate tucked into my passport. It’s basically the same thing as the CDC card for COVID-18.
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EagertoLearnMore wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:01 am I was told to NOT laminate the card as boosters may be added in the future.
Welp, that answers my question. Thanks!
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Office Depot copied the original, then laminated that copy for free. In case the original needs to be amended in the future.
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Here's a news update.

You've been vaccinated. So what should you do with your vaccine card?
APRIL 9, 2021 / 2:43 PM / MONEYWATCH
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... 021-04-09/

Things are so confusing and changing so fast that by the time you figure out what happened, you have something new to deal with. I'm happy to be on the trailing edge on this matter and avoid having to deal with it as much as possible.
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nisiprius wrote: Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:32 am When traveling pre-1980 I was always asked to show "passport and vaccination certificate" so to me it "feels like" a passport, and I think for the time being I'll keep it in the passport case along with my passport.

I know there are no definitive answers on this, but what are others doing?
Umm... in a drawer of my desk. I don't foresee carrying it as a vaccine passport. The card is too easy to fake and should hold no water as far as a "passport to travel".
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H-Town wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:48 pm The card is too easy to fake and should hold no water as far as a "passport to travel".
I’d really be surprised if other countries accepted it.
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