Theft of catalytic converter ("autocatalyst") ?

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z91
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Re: Theft of catalytic converter ("autocatalyst") ?

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I have a dash cam in my car that records 24/7. If the car battery is low (rare) it stops.

I've seen multiple instances where people walk up to my car late at night, pointing at the dashcam, then walking away.
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alfaspider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:36 pm
Valuethinker wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:29 am

One could imagine a situation where the car is old enough to have the minimum insurance, and this is not covered. But it's not legal to drive without one (although people do).
Not quite true. It's perfectly legal to drive a car without a catalytic converter if the car did not come with one from the factory (i.e. cars from the 70s and prior).
Right. It's a good point. To be honest I am not sure what MOT rules are on that (UK road rules).

Leaded petrol was finally abolished here in 1990 and I assume from then every car has a catalytic converter. You don't see many pre 1990 cars because they would have to be in tip top shape to pass their MOT (Ministry of Transport).
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whodidntante wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:28 pm
shunkman wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:17 pm Even new cars sitting in the dealer's lot are getting hit. Some suspect that traveling specialized gangs are involved with this.
I think it's because the economy sucks and people keep on keeping on.
I think the specialised gangs is key. These people are fast and probably do 20 cars a night. Know how to fence it, etc.
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Spirit Rider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:20 pm
Valuethinker wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:25 am Going back to the 1980s, Boston was (in)famous for its car thefts-- or so a grad student from there told me. New York had much more murders (even per capita) but Boston, Boston had car thieves.
Actually, Lawrence (1/2 hour north) was the car theft capital of the country for many years. After a while the car thieves got greedy and many thefts were inside jobs.

You actually had to pay to have your stolen for the insurance payments. It was reportedly the safest place to park your car if you weren't intentionally having it stolen

You would go to a bar or restaurant and wala it would not be there when you came out. Many academy awards should have been given when the police were called.

I'm sure this racket extended to Boston during this time.
If George V Higgins (a Boston criminal lawyer) didn't write a novel about this racket, he should have.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle, both book and movie, are so evocative of early 1970s Boston that you just live and breath it (in the same way Ed McBain managed for 70s& 80s NYC, but w better ear).

But Rat on Fire, about insurance fraud for arson, sounds just like the racket you are describing.
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Broken Man 1999 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:22 am The problem here is people with giant trucks with parts of their exhaust systems removed. They emit huge amounts of black smoke and are really loud. But that is the vehicle owners doing it themselves rather than having someone do it to them.
Coal rolling is what it is called. Pretty stupid thing to do, for sure. Pollution for the sheer ability to be able to pollute. Rolling coal at bicyclists, EVs, pedestrians is beyond stupid.

Perhaps those so into such activities are seeking a substitute for their own shortcomings, emphasis on "short." Other styles of transportation might make the idiots feel inadequate.
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Doesn't the state catch this during inspections? What about cops driving by, the cops ignore it?
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egrets wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:27 am
Broken Man 1999 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:22 am The problem here is people with giant trucks with parts of their exhaust systems removed. They emit huge amounts of black smoke and are really loud. But that is the vehicle owners doing it themselves rather than having someone do it to them.
Coal rolling is what it is called. Pretty stupid thing to do, for sure. Pollution for the sheer ability to be able to pollute. Rolling coal at bicyclists, EVs, pedestrians is beyond stupid.

Perhaps those so into such activities are seeking a substitute for their own shortcomings, emphasis on "short." Other styles of transportation might make the idiots feel inadequate.
Doesn't the state catch this during inspections? What about cops driving by, the cops ignore it?
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Not all states have vehicle inspection. No idea, I've never seen it in action.

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egrets wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:27 am What about cops driving by, the cops ignore it?
Not much the cops can do about it. They would need to know the regulations behind the federal Clean Air Act and be qualified to correctly estimate the opacity of the emissions for at least five seconds.
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Spirit Rider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:40 am I have only heard about three recent cases in the live free or die state.... Trying to steal a catalytic converter from a Texan's pickup truck might be a good way to end up dead
Are there many Texans with trucks driving around New Hampshire?

https://www.nh.gov/almanac/emblem.htm
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It is quite common in the large Midwest city I live in. SUVs are the primary target as it is easier to get under there and out quickly.

Several years ago I thought my muffler had a hole in it. The car was really loud. I took it to a muffler repair place and they said the muffler is fine. Someone had started to cut the pipe to steal my catalytic converter and were probably interrupted by someone in the area. They welded the pipe and it was fine. That was on a Jeep GC.
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Sprucebark wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:42 am
Spirit Rider wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:40 am I have only heard about three recent cases in the live free or die state.... Trying to steal a catalytic converter from a Texan's pickup truck might be a good way to end up dead.
Are there many Texans with trucks driving around New Hampshire?
Nice way of deceptively editing the quote of my post.

Clearly by context, the first sentence was part of a bulleted list about the NH cases and the last from a general statement about LA, NY, Chicago and Texas.

Try to be a little more honest in your posts.
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snackdog wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:06 am
egrets wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:27 am What about cops driving by, the cops ignore it?
Not much the cops can do about it. They would need to know the regulations behind the federal Clean Air Act and be qualified to correctly estimate the opacity of the emissions for at least five seconds.
Maybe in Texas, but in two states I have lived in the cops just by eyeballing it can issue a notice that the vehicle has to pass an inspection.
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regularguy455 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:14 am This seems like the exact reason for car insurance. How could you possibly protect against this? And frankly, why should you? The last thing I want to spend mental energy on is worrying about people stealing parts off my car.
You know you have a deductible with your insurance? Plus the hassle of getting it repaired.
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fizxman wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:40 am
Jack FFR1846 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:26 am When I was working right next to a major highway (rt128) outside of Boston, our building management sent warnings not to park near the street. We had huge parking lots. There were no "gangs", but a guy with a battery sawzall. They'd get cats from SUVs as there's no lifting required....just lay under the trucks, cut the cats and drive to the scrap yard.

The problem follows scrap prices. When prices are high, watch out. When they drop, not sure what the crooks do. Maybe get a job. I collect and sell various scrap, although not cats. So I do see the price variations. For example, over the years, I've seen steel at $20 a ton and at $200 a ton. When it's at $200 a ton, that's when the telephone poles get plastered with signs saying they'll pick up your junk car for cash.
Great, we already had the wheels stolen off my wife's Honda Fit. Now we have to worry about the catalytic converter being stolen from my F150.
Better watch that tailgate as well.
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Ykcor wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:12 pm
regularguy455 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:14 am This seems like the exact reason for car insurance. How could you possibly protect against this? And frankly, why should you? The last thing I want to spend mental energy on is worrying about people stealing parts off my car.
You know you have a deductible with your insurance? Plus the hassle of getting it repaired.
That’s true. I still don’t see how worrying about this resolves the issue. If people want parts off your car, they’re gonna take them.
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bberris wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:35 am In suburban Minneapolis, yes, several in a week in Plymouth. Also lots of cars broken into with nothing taken, presumably looking for guns. Please don't leave these in your car.
Not just Plymouth... https://twitter.com/CityHastingsMN/sta ... 61573?s=20
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