Suggestions for 100x moonshots

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Be prepared for volatility. I've done well in semiconductors -- but the worst year was down 50%. In the past decade, I've had good returns in Global Technology funds, such as the IXN ETF.

A few stock suggestions for the next decade:
Nio -- manufactures electric cars in China
NextEra Energy Partners (NEP) -- utility stock for green energy
BigCommerce -- or the next big e-commerce stock to compete with Shopify
Zoom video communications or its next competitor
DocuSign or other technologies that facilitate online transactions
Travel and leisure stocks
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Pepper11 wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:42 pm HACAX
That's an interesting growth fund. Looks like it has a good history. I do think you could do better by getting rid of Uber and some of the Healthcare stocks like so...

https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/bac ... on38_2=100

Here is another version with some of the newer companies removed so you can go back a few years.
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/bac ... on38_2=100

Disclosure: I own some of version 1
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As already mentioned earlier, I would second SPCE. I believe that space tourism could be a tremendous investment opportunity. It's also a "Robin Hood" play that many times results in outlandish returns. Also, take a look at ROKU. It has the potential be a prime T/O candidate that would be a bolt-on acquisition for Apple, Amazon or Netflix.

In terms of full disclosure, I have significant positions in these two stocks for both trading as well as LT growth.

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BuddyJet wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:11 am My standard line was that when I want to gamble, I go to Vegas. At minimum, I'd get free drinks and know quickly if I won.
They aren’t giving free drinks out right now. Plus it just isn’t as much fun these days with all the new rules. This is the only way to get a real fix.

Penny stocks or scour Wall Street bets on Reddit and maybe you get lucky picking the right autist to coat-tail. I don’t have a penny stick to offer a gamble on.sorry. The last one I was in went belly up. 😵
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I'm doing employee options in a startup.

But that's my life, not an investment.
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fmhealth wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:35 pm , take a look at ROKU. It has the potential be a prime T/O candidate that would be a bolt-on acquisition for Apple, Amazon or Netflix.
Roku was a better takeover candidate when it was a neutral streaming platform. Now it is competing with everyone else to bundle channels. Technology wise, they are falling behind Amazon, Google and Apple while trying to compete with them. We are a Roku house but may move to another platform soon to get channels that aren't available on Roku.
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Would Snowflake (SNOW) be a possible moonshot?
IPO may be tomorrow.
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novemberrain wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:54 am Question : If I am willing to lose this entire play money, but hoping for a lottery ticket of sorts that will net me a 100x return over the next decade, what are your suggestions ?
Lottery tickets.
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sheroo wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:05 pm Would Snowflake (SNOW) be a possible moonshot?
IPO may be tomorrow.
I think it's pricing in at $25B or so market cap. Possible moonshot if it gets to $2.5T in 10 years, which is possible with a little assistance from the fed. Problem is unless you have access to IPO prices, you might have to pay a bit more to play. It is already up from where Buffett bought ($80) and is now at ~$100. My guess it gets to $200-$250 as soon as it begins trading.
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Are you talking public or private markets?

You can always put some money in a VC.

For public markets, look at new IPOs that have the potential to overhaul current markets or create new ones: This could include Coursera, SpaceX, Instacart, UiPath, Reddit, Palantir, Impossible, Unity, Gingko. Not all of these will succeed, but they are trying to redefine areas and some may hit that threshold.
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JoeRetire wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:47 pm
novemberrain wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:54 am Question : If I am willing to lose this entire play money, but hoping for a lottery ticket of sorts that will net me a 100x return over the next decade, what are your suggestions ?
Lottery tickets.
Something between lottery tickets and roulette. Maybe long-shot sports betting. Washington Nationals are 1:100 to win world series.
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anoop wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:08 pm
sheroo wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:05 pm Would Snowflake (SNOW) be a possible moonshot?
IPO may be tomorrow.
I think it's pricing in at $25B or so market cap. Possible moonshot if it gets to $2.5T in 10 years, which is possible with a little assistance from the fed. Problem is unless you have access to IPO prices, you might have to pay a bit more to play. It is already up from where Buffett bought ($80) and is now at ~$100. My guess it gets to $200-$250 as soon as it begins trading.
Looks like IPO share price just shot up to $120 :shock:
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sheroo wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:02 am
anoop wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:08 pm
sheroo wrote: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:05 pm Would Snowflake (SNOW) be a possible moonshot?
IPO may be tomorrow.
I think it's pricing in at $25B or so market cap. Possible moonshot if it gets to $2.5T in 10 years, which is possible with a little assistance from the fed. Problem is unless you have access to IPO prices, you might have to pay a bit more to play. It is already up from where Buffett bought ($80) and is now at ~$100. My guess it gets to $200-$250 as soon as it begins trading.
Looks like IPO share price just shot up to $120 :shock:
Currently trading at ~$280 with market cap of $60B. Buffett just made a 250% return on his investment in < 1 week. Anyway, to get 100x return on this, getting in now as a "visionary" means you expect it to get to a market cap of $6T. Powell's statements this afternoon should keep things firmly on track.
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My favorite sleeper stock right now is Mercado Libre (MELI). If you combine Amazon, Paypal, and a few others into a single company, this is what MELI is....only in South America and still in the early stages. Strong management team, clear vision and execution (so far), investments from some major US companies, and a market cap that isn't outrageous (~$50B).

IF they continue their growth story I could easily see them hitting $500B in 10-15 years.

Disclosure: I bought into the company in March when they dropped to $550, they're currently around $1k/share. I expect continued volatility but have no intention of selling anytime this decade.
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Another big risk/big reward would be to buy baskets of stocks from currently troubled industries. Specifically the airlines and the cruise industry.

You could have a cruise basket made up of the three majors, all currently down a ton. If they recover, huge profits for you.

You could have an airline basket made up of the ~10 airlines in the U.S, all currently down a ton. Again, if they recover, huge profits for you.

I purchased Spirit airlines back in March at $10. It quickly rose to $25, then dropped to $16 where I sold to lock in my 60% profit. It's been simmering around $18 ever since. I also purchased Southwest at the same time but am still holding those shares.
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Biotech penny stocks. As risky as some of the other suggestions here.
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The underlying premise is a moonshot. 100x is an extraordinary number. Unrealistic. And a 20 year horizon is another long wrong shot.
What if it hits 10x in the first year? Will you bail? What if it doubles between now and the end of the year? Many stocks have doubled in 2020 so far. Would you leave it be?
Seems at such points as above i would get out.

Your basis of 4% is an unknown dollar amount to us. You are prepared to lose it. Therefore the dollar amount is not that significant to you. Therefore it needs to go to extremes such as 20x to make it worthwhile to you. To make it enticing.
It is a game for you and your rules of 20x in 20 years is a horizon that boxes you in.
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I believe that 100x moonshots are possible, but generally only for people who (1) have the expertise to spot an opportunity far earlier than others, and (2) are willing to tolerate long periods of underperformance and stress related to the stock holding.

TSLA is an example that comes to mind. IPO was around $3.40/share (split-adjusted) in mid-2010. A decade later, the stock is trading around $420/share, for a greater than 100x gain.

How many people would have been able to understand the implications of Tesla's roadmap in 2010? How many people would have been able to tolerate years of massive uncertainty, relentless attacks by the Mainstream Media, and the sometimes unpredictable behavior of Elon Musk? TSLA basically went nowhere from mid-2014 through late 2019, with share prices trapped in the $40-60 (split adjusted) range for most of that period.
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MotoTrojan wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:36 am
OP I would consider buying a basket of net-net micro-cap stocks if you can find any. Buying 10 of them may give you a shot at capturing a couple big ones, but 100x is all luck.
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novemberrain wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:28 am
vtjon02 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:06 am I think you should first focus on getting your spending under control. That alone will help you increase your net worth by over $4M over the next ten years.
As I mentioned in my post, the income got high only recently. That explains the low NW.
There has been a lot of helpful advice on the investment options, but with the ability to make that much income (vastly more than you can make investing) why wouldn't you focus your attention there and maybe planning to start your own company in that space: "invest in yourself". You might make $10M in the next 10 years in your careers, vs. a bunch of time spent on risky endeavors that may or may not pay off.
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hagridshut wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:30 am I believe that 100x moonshots are possible, but generally only for people who (1) have the expertise to spot an opportunity far earlier than others, and (2) are willing to tolerate long periods of underperformance and stress related to the stock holding.

TSLA is an example that comes to mind. IPO was around $3.40/share (split-adjusted) in mid-2010. A decade later, the stock is trading around $420/share, for a greater than 100x gain.

How many people would have been able to understand the implications of Tesla's roadmap in 2010? How many people would have been able to tolerate years of massive uncertainty, relentless attacks by the Mainstream Media, and the sometimes unpredictable behavior of Elon Musk? TSLA basically went nowhere from mid-2014 through late 2019, with share prices trapped in the $40-60 (split adjusted) range for most of that period.
The other way to do it is with out the money options (as popularized on wall street bets). Depending on what's available in the options market, you may be able to get a 100x return with the stock merely doubling or tripling. Of course, it's a straight lottery ticket with extremely low chances of success. Not too much different from online gambling.
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