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Annabel Lee
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I’ve made it through 6 months of COVID-induced working from home; though it’s been a challenge with two young kids also learning from home - and playing, eating, screaming, pretending and occasionally fighting from home.

I‘ve generally been working from my kitchen table, living room (Zoom calls) or outside to avoid the noise & distraction and try to achieve some level of focus. Cell service is spotty upstairs in my house and I can still hear my kids. The best option for meetings is outside - this is going to go away as fall and cooler temperatures arrive. I’m generally on calls or Zoom meetings 6+ hours a day.

With this in mind, I’ve done some cursory research into office space rentals here and it seems prohibitively expensive. For example Regus wants $250/month for 5 days of office use; this climbs to $600/month for unlimited use. Local coworking space isn’t much better at $400/month for non-private space.

This seems wildly expensive for what I need... effectively a small private office (10x10) where I can shut a door and get WiFi access & good cell service. Perhaps unrealistic but can I achieve this for $200/month?

Has anyone found a good option to solve for this since the pandemic began?
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Find a local business park and reach out to businesses. I bet many might be willing to offer something.
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Just like anything else in real estate, office rents are dependent on location. $200 seems unrealistic, but you might be able to find a small space for $300-$400/month. It will be demure, older, and subject to road noise. The bathrooms will be small and old, but hopefully clean.

Check out Craigslist. Drive around and look at office complexes. Hone in on older inconspicuous buildings you might not normally notice. You'll be surprised at all the "for lease" signs when you start looking.

Anything <300 sf is tricky to find. 10x10 might be near impossible, but I think you'll find a workable solution if you persist. Lots of buildings offer Internet as an add on which will be cheaper than going directly to the provider.

Consider "executive office suites" as well. These are complexes that provide a common receptionist for the tenants, coffee service, and a copy machine. You'll pay more per sf, but you're more likely to find smaller suites in that type of arrangement.
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Have you tried noise cancelling headphones? DH and I can be on calls in the same room, because we can't hear each other and the microphones are focused enough that they don't pick up the other person.

Have you looked into using your phone through your home wifi?
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Annabel Lee wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:43 pm I’ve made it through 6 months of COVID-induced working from home; though it’s been a challenge with two young kids also learning from home - and playing, eating, screaming, pretending and occasionally fighting from home.

I‘ve generally been working from my kitchen table, living room (Zoom calls) or outside to avoid the noise & distraction and try to achieve some level of focus. Cell service is spotty upstairs in my house and I can still hear my kids. The best option for meetings is outside - this is going to go away as fall and cooler temperatures arrive. I’m generally on calls or Zoom meetings 6+ hours a day.

With this in mind, I’ve done some cursory research into office space rentals here and it seems prohibitively expensive. For example Regus wants $250/month for 5 days of office use; this climbs to $600/month for unlimited use. Local coworking space isn’t much better at $400/month for non-private space.

This seems wildly expensive for what I need... effectively a small private office (10x10) where I can shut a door and get WiFi access & good cell service. Perhaps unrealistic but can I achieve this for $200/month?

Has anyone found a good option to solve for this since the pandemic began?
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
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One of my friends had an 8x10 shed dropped in his backyard by one of the amish shed companies. After it was in place he added a window and did insulation, drywall, and electrical, and a mini split heat pump from eBay.
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sailaway wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:23 pm Have you tried noise cancelling headphones? DH and I can be on calls in the same room, because we can't hear each other and the microphones are focused enough that they don't pick up the other person.

Have you looked into using your phone through your home wifi?
This. I use wifi calling since there is no reception in my condo.
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Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm

... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
Not realistic. When I had a lot of calls and declined the meeting invites, my manager told me that declining was not an option.
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Good comms headphone (noise cancel/direct mic)... add VOIP (google voice or similar) so your not on cell signal... Plug in a wire to the router and avoid wifi if you can. Those prices sound good for a real office space....
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$200 seems like a pipe dream no matter where you are. May want to call a handful of local attorneys/CPAs. Many will have an empty office or two, and maybe you make it worth their while by paying 6 months upfront, hoping that we're on the other side of this mess by then
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Like some of what others said, I'd invest on beefing up your home internet and network and get a good headset with noise cancelling. You alluded you have an upstairs but with spotty coverage. Install mesh wifi throughout your house with something like Google wifi. Use either wifi call or Google voice for calls upstairs. If necessary, perhaps even put some noise dampener in the room. All of those will cost less than $200 a month with the advantage you still work from home and don't need to travel to your rented space.
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Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
LOL! It doesn't work that way. One can get on the chopping block quickly for saying it.
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Annabel Lee wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:43 pmThis seems wildly expensive for what I need... effectively a small private office (10x10) where I can shut a door and get WiFi access & good cell service. Perhaps unrealistic but can I achieve this for $200/month?
How much do you make? Say you gross $10K a month. Is the difference between $200 (unrealistic) and $600 an issue? The only places I know of in that size and price range are storage warehouses.

And for what it's worth, I work from home and no way would I spend money for the privilege of paying for and driving to an office, even at $200, when I can do the same thing at home.
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srt7 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
LOL! It doesn't work that way. One can get on the chopping block quickly for saying it.
if someone has 6+ hours of calls and meetings, that company has too many managers and not enough do-ers. Meetings and calls are usually the absolute least productive parts of a day, full of presentation and consensus building not any actual work.
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A coworker has been renting an Airbnb as a workspace and is quite happy with it.
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Dottie57 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:48 pm
sailaway wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 4:23 pm Have you tried noise cancelling headphones? DH and I can be on calls in the same room, because we can't hear each other and the microphones are focused enough that they don't pick up the other person.

Have you looked into using your phone through your home wifi?
This. I use wifi calling since there is no reception in my condo.
+1. Many modern smart phones like Apple and Samsung also have wifi calling options built in that still use your same phone number.
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Regus sounds downright affordable!

Just go to Starbucks or a coffee shop or the library. You don't need an office. Offices are for people who actually need to meet clients. Or have a physical permanent address.
Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:05 pm
srt7 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
LOL! It doesn't work that way. One can get on the chopping block quickly for saying it.
if someone has 6+ hours of calls and meetings, that company has too many managers and not enough do-ers. Meetings and calls are usually the absolute least productive parts of a day, full of presentation and consensus building not any actual work.
Unless they're sales calls. Or customer service calls. Internal calls, yes. I'd agree with that sentiment.
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What about somewhere that isn’t set up as office space and is hurting financially due to Covid, like an event space, church hall, restaurant dining room, library meeting room, or something like that?
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If you are primarily using Zoom why are you concerned about cell coverage upstairs? Upgrade your internet service if necessary and use your computer audio instead of your cell phone. If you get a lot of calls in/out on your phone - you can set up a service to do so from your computer as well (or use wifi calling on your mobile phone). If your concern is you can still hear your kids - get a binaural headset to block it out. Solving these problems is cheaper than renting a space.
If you need to get out of your house to work efficiently (too easily distracted by chores; unable/unwilling to teach kids not to interrupt work; etc.) that's a different story.
I'd focus on finding solutions to be able to work from home.
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Annabel Lee
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Mostly good suggestions in this thread.

Making the mesh WiFi purchase this weekend and carving out some space upstairs vs. going external. At least for now.

Thanks all.
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srt7 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
LOL! It doesn't work that way. One can get on the chopping block quickly for saying it.
The white space in my calendar disagrees! Granted, it led to a few awkward interactions and my boss was on my side, but you never know until you try.

I also drop from calls early. 2 hour meeting? Hey, I have a hard stop halfway through, sorry. Can you send a pre-read or something so I can make sure I get you what you need? 80% of the time there's nothing I actually had to react to. The joys of large companies
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MBB_Boy wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:57 am
srt7 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:04 pm
Thegame14 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:17 pm
Those REGUS prices not only don't seem expensive, they sound cheap, no where you are going to get an office for $200 a month for 6+ hours a day 5 days a week.... just cut down on the calls, no one needs to have that many hours of calls a day....
LOL! It doesn't work that way. One can get on the chopping block quickly for saying it.
The white space in my calendar disagrees! Granted, it led to a few awkward interactions and my boss was on my side, but you never know until you try.

I also drop from calls early. 2 hour meeting? Hey, I have a hard stop halfway through, sorry. Can you send a pre-read or something so I can make sure I get you what you need? 80% of the time there's nothing I actually had to react to. The joys of large companies
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With the way things are WeWork must have tons of available space right now. Is there one anywhere near you?
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