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what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by gips » Wed May 20, 2020 6:18 pm

before retiring I worked long hours and it would have been tough to take on lawn care of our two-acre property. Now, with more time on my hands, we've decided to take back lawn care from our landscaper. My wife doesn't want to use pesticides, so she researched and spread something called malorganite as a fertilizer. Fast forward two weeks later and I mowed the lawn with the mulcher attachment. Now we have what to my eye looks like 1000s of dandelions and other types of weeds. My wife has been using vinegar to kill the dandelions but it feels like she's bailing out a boat with a thimble.

Our lawn has never looked great, too much shade and we live in a hilly place in the northeast. we're thinking about just giving up...I'll mow weekly and i"m not sure either of us cares much about the weeds.

any ideas other than spreading chemical pesticides?

thanks!

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Post by Chuck107 » Wed May 20, 2020 6:22 pm

Keep mowing it and stress less. :sharebeer

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Post by Cheez-It Guy » Wed May 20, 2020 6:22 pm

Well if neither of you really cares about weeds, as you say, then just mow it and don't worry about it. Dandelions are edible. You can make salad from the greens.

If you mow regularly enough, they can't spread from seed. Get a dandelion tool for manual removal.

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Post by eigenperson » Wed May 20, 2020 6:25 pm

Congratulations on your new pollinator-friendly landscaping!

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Post by gclancer » Wed May 20, 2020 6:25 pm

With two acres I’m afraid you’ll have to choose between chemical pesticides or dandelions.

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Post by rkhusky » Wed May 20, 2020 7:08 pm

Cheez-It Guy wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:22 pm
If you mow regularly enough, they can't spread from seed.
Some of my dandelions have developed a lawnmower defense, where they grow only an inch above the ground or grow sideways. I just did an application of weed and feed this morning. But I hope to soon get to the point of spot treating with WeedBGone

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Post by iamlucky13 » Wed May 20, 2020 7:32 pm

gips wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:18 pm
so she researched and spread something called malorganite as a fertilizer. Fast forward two weeks later and I mowed the lawn with the mulcher attachment. Now we have what to my eye looks like 1000s of dandelions and other types of weeds. My wife has been using vinegar to kill the dandelions but it feels like she's bailing out a boat with a thimble.
Milorganite is made out of people!

It's actually a brand name for heat-sterilized, pressed and dried, composted sludge from the Milwaukee sewer plant. It's arguably a good use for the sludge. There used to be heavy metal contamination concerns, but as far as I know, that's no longer the case due to reductions in what industrial facilities are allowed to discharge into the sewers.

I'm sure it's not the source of your dandelions, if that's what you were thinking.

Be aware that vinegar doesn't kill dandelions. It causes a chemical burn of the leaves, but the root stores a lot of nutrients and will happily send up new shoots numerous times over, unless you treat it fast enough and frequently enough that it can't replenish the nutrients, in which case it will eventually die.

I've read that you have to remove about 2/3 the length of the main root to reliably prevent a dandelion sprout from reaching sunlight and re-establishing. Household vinegar is diluted enough it may not reliably burn the leaves. Agricultural vinegar is much stronger, but also more caustic.

For conventional herbicides, I believe the most effective dandelion control is a mix of a broadleaf weed killer like 2,4-D to kill the tops without harming your grass, and pre-emergent herbicide to weaken the roots and prevent seeds from establishing new plants. This is usually advised to be applied along with fertilizer (or weed-and-feed products usually contain all 3 ingredients) to help your grass. Applying in the fall helps weaken the roots before winter, increasing the chance they'll die off before they end their dormancy in the spring. I believe it takes multiple years of consistent application to largely eradicate dandelions. Of course, the seeds will continue to blow in from elsewhere.

Personally, I also have a relatively large property like yours. There is a relatively small area in front of the house I treat like a lawn and am working on slowly eliminating most of the dandelions by pulling with the aid of a weeding tool. I do seem to be slowly making progress, despite not spending much time on it. The rest of my property I view as a yard, not a lawn, and I don't allow myself to be bothered by the dandelions there. I just focus on keeping it mowed and working on improving the soil so the grass can be healthy enough to remain dominant.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Wed May 20, 2020 7:41 pm

On a small lawn, I found that dandelions could be kept under control with only occasional dandelion killer. I know you don't want to use it, but it WORKS.

Other than that- I think you need to harvest very often for salads and dandelion wine.

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Post by GMCZ71 » Wed May 20, 2020 7:42 pm

gips wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:18 pm
My wife doesn't want to use pesticides, so she researched and spread something called malorganite as a fertilizer.

any ideas other than spreading chemical pesticides?

thanks!
Pesticides or Herbicide?
Milo or Milorganite is great fertilizer and will help thicken the lawn and slow down the weeds. May I suggest weed and feed (scotts etc,) instead, you don't have to use full bag rate. Use weed&feed once in the spring then switch to milo every 5-6 weeks till fall. After one or 2 years you should be able manage with out w&feed, just manual weeding.
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Post by Ben Mathew » Wed May 20, 2020 7:43 pm

- Mow with mulcher before the dandelions go to seed. Use a bagger if they've gone to seed.

- Pull out the existing dandelions with a stand up weed puller like this one.

- Mow on highest setting to shade out the weeds.

- Overseed regularly to crowd out weed seeds. (I do it twice a year).

It will get better slowly over time.

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Post by mouses » Wed May 20, 2020 7:48 pm

I think dandelions are pretty. Plus I see little animals munching on them.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... ife-garden

A monoculture lawn is a terrible thing for wildlife.

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Post by whodidntante » Wed May 20, 2020 7:50 pm

Dandelion seeds are pretty valuable. I guess this is a pretty homey start to your new seed empire.

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Post by oldfatguy » Wed May 20, 2020 7:52 pm

eigenperson wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:25 pm
Congratulations on your new pollinator-friendly landscaping!
+1 My yard is a sea of dandelions, clover, creeping charlie, and (at the moment) trilliums. The bees and insects seem to enjoy it. So do the rabbits. The birds enjoy the insects. The hawks enjoy the birds and the rabbits, and so on and so forth. I won't mow for the first time for at least 2 more weeks.

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Post by Kenkat » Wed May 20, 2020 7:53 pm

Pesticides kill insects; herbicides kill plants.

If you don’t want to use herbicides and don’t really care about the dandelions, then just don’t worry about them.

If you want to clear out the dandelions, you can apply either a granular weed killer (these often come with fertilizer aka weed and feed) or a spray application you can hook to the hose. The hose applications work well but two acres is pretty big and you may not have a hose that will stretch the whole way. If applying a granular, apply when the grass is wet so the product sticks to the leaves. You may have a hard time finding granular weed control without fertilizer at Home Depot / Lowe’s / Wal-Mart but a garden or farm supply retailer may carry it.

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Post by iamlucky13 » Wed May 20, 2020 7:57 pm

Kenkat wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Pesticides kill insects; herbicides kill plants.
Pesticides kill pests.

Herbicides are a subset of pesticides that kills plants.

Insecticides are a subset of pesticides that kills insects.

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Post by yangtui » Wed May 20, 2020 8:03 pm

I would just let it be. None of those things growing in your yard are harmful. They are part of a healthy ecosystem.

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Post by tainted-meat » Wed May 20, 2020 8:09 pm

Watch the youtube videos from Allyn Hane (The Lawn Care Nut) and/or buy his cool season guide for $25 or so. Follow the plan and your yard will look progressively better over time.

Milorganite is a fertilizer. You need something to kill the weeds but not the grass - think Ortho Weed B Gone.

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Post by Kenkat » Wed May 20, 2020 8:22 pm

iamlucky13 wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:57 pm
Kenkat wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Pesticides kill insects; herbicides kill plants.
Pesticides kill pests.

Herbicides are a subset of pesticides that kills plants.

Insecticides are a subset of pesticides that kills insects.
Well then it looks like it’s time for dandelion wine.

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Post by Normchad » Wed May 20, 2020 8:29 pm

I keep a fairly perfect lawn, but it's much smaller than yours. It costs quite a bit to keep it "perfect", and recently I've been mentally toying with the idea of letting it go more natural.

But there is no way I could keep 2 acres looking anywhere near this good. And truthfully, I wouldn't even try. If I had 2 acres, I would mow everything at 4" high and just keep an eye on things. Mowing things makes them look good, mowing them high make them healthier and look even better.

Instead, I'd spend my time tending to other plants. Trees, shrubs, maybe a nice garden. If you take care of everything else, and just keep your lawn/weeds mowed regularly (mowed high), it will look good.

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Post by TomatoTomahto » Wed May 20, 2020 8:41 pm

Normchad wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:29 pm
But there is no way I could keep 2 acres looking anywhere near this good. And truthfully, I wouldn't even try.
The previous owner kept the cleared area (I guess around 4-5 acres) looking beautiful by applying absurd amounts of fertilizer, a lot of water, frequent mowing, etc. I knew I wasn’t in the market for that, so I’ve let it go more natural. It’s surprising how quickly it gets back to being natural. Other than my wife getting stung by a bee last year, there have been no negative consequences, and the various critters are thriving. We do keep the area inside the dog’s electric fence boundary trimmed closer than the rest of it.
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Post by Havingfun1950 » Wed May 20, 2020 8:48 pm

Dandelions seem to prefer acidic soil. I have substantially reduced mine by mowing high, two inches or higher, spreading limestone multiple falls, and spot spraying 2,4 D. Thus I use substantially less herbicide than by broadcast application.

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Geese

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Post by GoldenFinch » Wed May 20, 2020 9:03 pm

One summer I spent about six hours digging them up over a couple of days. I felt a true sense of accomplishment when I was done. It’s great exercise and not as miserable of a job as one might imagine.

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Post by topper1296 » Wed May 20, 2020 9:04 pm

My late grandfather didn't have a yard that big, but he would go out with a vacuum to suck up the seeds before they would spread.

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Post by adamthesmythe » Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm

jjface wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:57 pm
Geese
I saw on youtube that bears really like dandelions (because they are sweet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWK1osi ... e=youtu.be

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Post by jjface » Wed May 20, 2020 10:30 pm

adamthesmythe wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
jjface wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:57 pm
Geese
I saw on youtube that bears really like dandelions (because they are sweet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWK1osi ... e=youtu.be
The neighbors might freak out

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Post by barnaclebob » Wed May 20, 2020 10:55 pm

Get about 1 or 2 dozen chickens and pasture them on the grass. Theyll take care of the weeds and fertilizing. 2 acres is enough to keep them from damaging the grass.

We had 6 chickens on a couple thousand square feet of yard and it looked amazing.

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Post by whodidntante » Wed May 20, 2020 10:59 pm

jjface wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 10:30 pm
adamthesmythe wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
jjface wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 8:57 pm
Geese
I saw on youtube that bears really like dandelions (because they are sweet)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWK1osi ... e=youtu.be
The neighbors might freak out
They really don't care for my opossum either.

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Post by Dregob » Wed May 20, 2020 11:05 pm

I grew up in the sticks in Western New York. If you had something green growing (clover, dandelions, etc.) it was considered a lawn. Nobody used pesticides, herbicides or even watered them.
Now I live in a city and I still have the same lawn care philosophy but it seems like every other lawn is a perfect monoculture which comes at both a financial and environmental cost.
Let it grow. Mow. Repeat when necessary.

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Post by retire2022 » Wed May 20, 2020 11:11 pm

oldfatguy wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:52 pm

+1 My yard is a sea of dandelions, clover, creeping charlie, and (at the moment) trilliums. The bees and insects seem to enjoy it. So do the rabbits. The birds enjoy the insects. The hawks enjoy the birds and the rabbits, and so on and so forth. I won't mow for the first time for at least 2 more weeks.
My pet rabbit loves the clover and dandelions, so does the kids in my area, then the red tailed hawk did a u turn, my bunny ran for cover, I yelled out "oh no"! that was nov 2, 2019.

Now we are all socially distancing, bunny home, he misses his kiddies. :D

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Post by F150HD » Wed May 20, 2020 11:59 pm

I don't mind a scattering of dandelions on a green lawn, I think it looks nice and springlike, but then they go to seed and that looks like cr*p. wish I could keep the scattering of dandelions all summer.

The crabgrass that comes later is the kicker. Some of what I see looks really bad.

Creeping charlie even grows in winter, I don't get it. If you don't get that under control, its like a corporate takeover of your lawn.

I dont mind some weeds, but when they overtake, that becomes a problem.

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Post by user5027 » Thu May 21, 2020 6:38 am

Similar to what I have...
https://www.amazon.com/Fiskars-Deluxe-S ... B0030MIHAU

Get them before they go to seed.

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Post by rhanna » Thu May 21, 2020 9:15 am

You would have to spread about 35 bags of milorganite if you wanted to cover 2 acres at the bag rate. Milo isn't very economical when you have anything over 1/4 acre lawn.

As far as weeds, if you don't want to use herbicides then I'd just let it be. Fertilize in the spring and fall, overseed in the fall, mow high and as often as you can.
I will say that once you get the lawn under control you won't need nearly as much herbicide/chemicals but still 2 acres is a lot to control.

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Post by Cyclesafe » Thu May 21, 2020 9:54 am

You have only two choices. Vinegar doesn't work.
  • Turn your property into a golf course.

    Broadcast glyphosate to kill all emerged vegetation.
    Then, regrade your property to optimize drainage.
    Then, remove debris and amend the soil to about 6 inches, adding whatever products you need to optimize.
    Then, install and thoroughly test an irrigation system.
    Then, spray glyphosate again to kill all of the new emerged vegetation.
    Then, drill the optimal grass seed.
    Then, mow when the new surface can tolerate it.
    Repeat.
    Then, broadcast a post-emergent broadleaf herbicide and pull grass weeds.
    Then, then over-seed with the same grass twice a year.

    For two acres, prepare to spend $$$$ and to get comfortable with "less than perfect".
  • Don't fight nature (much)

    Mow.
    Repeat.
    Over-seed twice a year.

    Accept what nature provides.
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Post by wfrobinette » Thu May 21, 2020 10:10 am

Kenkat wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Pesticides kill insects; herbicides kill plants.

If you don’t want to use herbicides and don’t really care about the dandelions, then just don’t worry about them.

If you want to clear out the dandelions, you can apply either a granular weed killer (these often come with fertilizer aka weed and feed) or a spray application you can hook to the hose. The hose applications work well but two acres is pretty big and you may not have a hose that will stretch the whole way. If applying a granular, apply when the grass is wet so the product sticks to the leaves. You may have a hard time finding granular weed control without fertilizer at Home Depot / Lowe’s / Wal-Mart but a garden or farm supply retailer may carry it.
He could easily do 2 arces with a backpack spryer. Hose sprayers are so hard to get the right amounts put down.

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Post by Kenkat » Thu May 21, 2020 10:19 am

wfrobinette wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:10 am
Kenkat wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 7:53 pm
Pesticides kill insects; herbicides kill plants.

If you don’t want to use herbicides and don’t really care about the dandelions, then just don’t worry about them.

If you want to clear out the dandelions, you can apply either a granular weed killer (these often come with fertilizer aka weed and feed) or a spray application you can hook to the hose. The hose applications work well but two acres is pretty big and you may not have a hose that will stretch the whole way. If applying a granular, apply when the grass is wet so the product sticks to the leaves. You may have a hard time finding granular weed control without fertilizer at Home Depot / Lowe’s / Wal-Mart but a garden or farm supply retailer may carry it.
He could easily do 2 arces with a backpack spryer. Hose sprayers are so hard to get the right amounts put down.
Good idea. Added bonus is if you miss a few spots, it’s very easy to go back and re-treat.

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Post by Tamarind » Thu May 21, 2020 10:23 am

Give up and enjoy the dandelions. Mow from time to time.

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Post by abuss368 » Thu May 21, 2020 10:28 am

Years ago we were using Scott's 4 Step program and the house never looked better. Now we are using Scott's new All in One application that is used two times during year. I believe it is 3 out of the 4 original step program. The insecticide may be removed.

If used consistently and over time, it works. I want a PGA Golf Course Lawn!
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Post by Slowtraveler » Thu May 21, 2020 10:42 am

You could cover your yard with cardboard, then a foot layer of tree mulch from a tree removal company, then some productive plants like moringa, kale, bananas, etc depending on what climate you're in. Make a nice permaculture garden so you have your own food supply if a coronazombie event happens.

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Post by Glockenspiel » Thu May 21, 2020 10:55 am

Get this thing --->> https://www.gardenweasel.com/garden-wea ... tep-twist/

It works great. Spend 1-2 hours a day using this for a couple of weeks. It's actually very easy and not back-breaking work, if you use this tool. Mow your lawn to 3-3.5 inches at a minimum. Once you have this tool, it makes it easy to go out with a bucket, pull the dandelions and pop them into your bucket. This fall, aerate, overseed, and potentially add some topsoil, water it for a short length, twice a day for 3 weeks (much easier with an irrigation system), and next year your lawn will be 50-90% better.

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Re: what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by gips » Thu May 21, 2020 10:58 am

thanks for all the thoughtful replies! My wife plans to spend an hour or two a day in certain parts of the yard trying to get the weeds under control. let's see how that goes, it seems to me like a crazy amount of work for something we don't care too much about. We do have a couple of gardens on the property and my wife has planted a couple of trees/shrubs and created a pretty rock garden.

I have to say, I'm liking my ego self propelled electric mower. I bought the one with two batteries, looks like I can get through it over the course of two days (the property is not really suitable for a riding mower and I didn't want to spend the $). as an added bonus, amazon accidentally delivered two mowers instead of one and unfortunately ;) couldn't take a return since the batteries are considered hazmat.

best,

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Post by wfrobinette » Thu May 21, 2020 2:06 pm

gips wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:58 am
thanks for all the thoughtful replies! My wife plans to spend an hour or two a day in certain parts of the yard trying to get the weeds under control. let's see how that goes, it seems to me like a crazy amount of work for something we don't care too much about. We do have a couple of gardens on the property and my wife has planted a couple of trees/shrubs and created a pretty rock garden.

I have to say, I'm liking my ego self propelled electric mower. I bought the one with two batteries, looks like I can get through it over the course of two days (the property is not really suitable for a riding mower and I didn't want to spend the $). as an added bonus, amazon accidentally delivered two mowers instead of one and unfortunately ;) couldn't take a return since the batteries are considered hazmat.

best,
Wait until the crabgrass shows up. You can do all you want but neighbors and wind bring new seeds.

I'd be using a granular preemergent next year.

Hand mowing 2 acres?

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Post by Hogan773 » Thu May 21, 2020 9:51 pm

wfrobinette wrote:
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gips wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:58 am
thanks for all the thoughtful replies! My wife plans to spend an hour or two a day in certain parts of the yard trying to get the weeds under control. let's see how that goes, it seems to me like a crazy amount of work for something we don't care too much about. We do have a couple of gardens on the property and my wife has planted a couple of trees/shrubs and created a pretty rock garden.

I have to say, I'm liking my ego self propelled electric mower. I bought the one with two batteries, looks like I can get through it over the course of two days (the property is not really suitable for a riding mower and I didn't want to spend the $). as an added bonus, amazon accidentally delivered two mowers instead of one and unfortunately ;) couldn't take a return since the batteries are considered hazmat.

best,
Wait until the crabgrass shows up. You can do all you want but neighbors and wind bring new seeds.

I'd be using a granular preemergent next year.

Hand mowing 2 acres?
I bought a bag of Dimension pre-emergent at a local turf supplier. Some Ace stores can also order it for you. You want to get the one that is JUST Dimension, without fertilizer. All the Scotts etc want to sell you fertilizer, and in April you don't really be wanting to apply a bunch of fertilizer, just the weed killer. Since I've been using Dimension for past 5 years, my lawn has very few weeds while my neighbors have a dandelion farm right now. I also use milorganite as a fertilizer around Memorial Day and then Labor Day and early October. Also cut the grass high so it helps shade out the weeds.

You could certainly nuke the dandelions if you wanted with some real weed products, but your poor wife out there spritzing each one with vinegar might as well be p*ssing in the wind....I tried the "salt and vinegar" thing for weeds on my pavers patio last year and the weeds turned a little brown for a few days and then laughed at me and gave me the finger

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Re: what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by OffGridder » Thu May 21, 2020 10:00 pm

Dandelions sell for $4 per small bunch at our local farmers market. Of course those are organic. Not an option if you have already sprayed them.
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Re: what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by CJC000 » Thu May 21, 2020 10:06 pm

Just bought a package of 10,000 dandelion seeds from Amazon after reading this post.
Lovely flowers, foliage is edible, great for the pollinators
Maybe consider selling your crop??

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Re: what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by Dead Man Walking » Fri May 22, 2020 12:27 am

I enjoy the weeds in my lawn. Dandelions and violets are currently in bloom. Finches feast on dandelion seeds. I also enjoy watching birds. It’s too expensive to control weeds on two acres. Buy a six pack, sit back, and enjoy nature’s beauty.

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Re: what to do about 1000s of dandelions/weeds?

Post by Kenkat » Fri May 22, 2020 8:32 am

Hogan773 wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 9:51 pm
wfrobinette wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 2:06 pm
gips wrote:
Thu May 21, 2020 10:58 am
thanks for all the thoughtful replies! My wife plans to spend an hour or two a day in certain parts of the yard trying to get the weeds under control. let's see how that goes, it seems to me like a crazy amount of work for something we don't care too much about. We do have a couple of gardens on the property and my wife has planted a couple of trees/shrubs and created a pretty rock garden.

I have to say, I'm liking my ego self propelled electric mower. I bought the one with two batteries, looks like I can get through it over the course of two days (the property is not really suitable for a riding mower and I didn't want to spend the $). as an added bonus, amazon accidentally delivered two mowers instead of one and unfortunately ;) couldn't take a return since the batteries are considered hazmat.

best,
Wait until the crabgrass shows up. You can do all you want but neighbors and wind bring new seeds.

I'd be using a granular preemergent next year.

Hand mowing 2 acres?
I bought a bag of Dimension pre-emergent at a local turf supplier. Some Ace stores can also order it for you. You want to get the one that is JUST Dimension, without fertilizer. All the Scotts etc want to sell you fertilizer, and in April you don't really be wanting to apply a bunch of fertilizer, just the weed killer. Since I've been using Dimension for past 5 years, my lawn has very few weeds while my neighbors have a dandelion farm right now. I also use milorganite as a fertilizer around Memorial Day and then Labor Day and early October. Also cut the grass high so it helps shade out the weeds.

You could certainly nuke the dandelions if you wanted with some real weed products, but your poor wife out there spritzing each one with vinegar might as well be p*ssing in the wind....I tried the "salt and vinegar" thing for weeds on my pavers patio last year and the weeds turned a little brown for a few days and then laughed at me and gave me the finger
That’s a really good low-impact approach if you want to minimize weeds while still keeping a mostly grass yard. :beer

You could also mix up a little bottle of something like Weed-B-Gon and spot treat any weeds that survived winter as well. I haven’t used broadcast weed killers for many years but I do spot spray a few weeds that seem to survive the winter and the pre-emergent doesn’t catch.

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