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So all-time highs sometime next week? Or is that too bearish? :twisted:
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Triple digit golfer wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:16 am I am not a market timer and never have been, but if I ever was to attempt, I can't imagine a more tempting time than now. The country is shut down, earnings are going to be awful, we're very likely in a recession, unemployment is 17% or maybe higher, we are seeing resurgence in virus cases when other countries open up...and stocks are just 13-14% off the all time high.

But I still won't do it. I know enough to know that I know nothing and that markets are forward looking and already know all of the information that I know.
Can you point me to detailed articles in the western press discussing the resurgence in virus cases when other countries open up? I know Singapore had issues that could possibly be classified that way, though in truth they never shut down. I haven’t heard of real studies showing issues in China, Austria, etc. Sweden has been open throughout and has done better than Italy and Spain, though not quite as well as Norway and Denmark (which shut down), perhaps.

I have been looking for articles in the New York Times or Wall St Journal (both of which I like if I ignore their editorials) addressing this since Europe started re-opening, but haven’t seen much.

I don’t consider this off topic, because the biggest threat I see to mid-term “soaring” is a need to shut back down!
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rascott wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:42 am I haven't checked in a few days..... but the average stock is down much more than the leading cap weighted indexes. Large cap tech has kept the index where it is.... but there are tons of stocks that are still down 30%+ from 2 months ago.
S&P500 equal weight is only down 14.8% YTD and 16.5% from it's high, without even including dividends. S&P600 is down ~23% from the crisis.

S&P500 equal weight is surprisingly close to the S&P500 at 13% from it's high...
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theorist wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:41 am
Triple digit golfer wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:16 am I am not a market timer and never have been, but if I ever was to attempt, I can't imagine a more tempting time than now. The country is shut down, earnings are going to be awful, we're very likely in a recession, unemployment is 17% or maybe higher, we are seeing resurgence in virus cases when other countries open up...and stocks are just 13-14% off the all time high.

But I still won't do it. I know enough to know that I know nothing and that markets are forward looking and already know all of the information that I know.
Can you point me to detailed articles in the western press discussing the resurgence in virus cases when other countries open up? I know Singapore had issues that could possibly be classified that way, though in truth they never shut down. I haven’t heard of real studies showing issues in China, Austria, etc. Sweden has been open throughout and has done better than Italy and Spain, though not quite as well as Norway and Denmark (which shut down), perhaps.

I have been looking for articles in the New York Times or Wall St Journal (both of which I like if I ignore their editorials) addressing this since Europe started re-opening, but haven’t seen much.

I don’t consider this off topic, because the biggest threat I see to mid-term “soaring” is a need to shut back down!
Here's what I saw this morning where Germany has seen an increase in R0 from 0.7 to above 1 again after starting to reopen.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coron ... 2020-04-28
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Virus case discussions are off-topic. The main intent of the posts must be about the market. See: Please read before posting on coronavirus/COVID-19

Please stay on-topic, which is about the soaring US market.
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Stef wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:42 am
Triple digit golfer wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:16 am I am not a market timer and never have been, but if I ever was to attempt, I can't imagine a more tempting time than now. The country is shut down, earnings are going to be awful, we're very likely in a recession, unemployment is 17% or maybe higher, we are seeing resurgence in virus cases when other countries open up...and stocks are just 13-14% off the all time high.

But I still won't do it. I know enough to know that I know nothing and that markets are forward looking and already know all of the information that I know.
Btw, this might help you turn off that urge to sell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ECqDaPjjV0
Enjoyed that very much, thanks! You got him another new subscriber here. Look forward to looking through the rest of his content.
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calvin+hobbes wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:36 pmEnjoyed that very much, thanks! You got him another new subscriber here. Look forward to looking through the rest of his content.
It's crazy how few on Bogleheads know him. He is basically everything what we believe in. All of his videos are great, can't think of any Youtube investment advisor with better content than Ben Felix.
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Watching Powell speak now, seems like the Fed will do anything and everything, stocks don't look that risky anymore.
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Corsair wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:59 pm Watching Powell speak now, seems like the Fed will do anything and everything, stocks don't look that risky anymore.
The Fed might as well verbally announce their 3rd mandate: to prop up stock markets. That has clearly been their goal over the last 2 recessions, and their reason for quickly reversing course on rate hikes back in Dec 2018 given that the two other mandates (employment and inflation) were rock solid. They seem very much afraid to allow a recession to occur at all.
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MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am I just finished watching the WWII documentary on Netflix yesterday. To even think Japan and Germany and the world have any meaningful recovery after that level of destruction within a couple of decades is mind boggling. The current crisis is bad, but nothing compare to back then. Don’t bet against humanity.
Which one? I'm big into WWII history, that was such a fascinating time to study.
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McGilicutty wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:38 am So all-time highs sometime next week? Or is that too bearish? :twisted:
Maybe all time highs next week is a little bullish. :D

But, just maybe, against all logic, we could reclaim the 3,000 level on S&P soon. Less than 2% more to go!
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Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:18 am
aristotelian wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:44 am I noticed that today the yield curve is actually completely non-inverted for the first time in many months.

1M 0.08
2M 0.09
3M 0.11
6M 0.13
1Y 0.16
2Y 0.20
3Y 0.26
5Y 0.37
7Y 0.52
10Y 0.62
20Y 1.00
30Y 1.20
Who would have ever thought that we would have a “non invested” yield curve with the 30 year at 1.20%?
And people buying them ... while the central bank say's they target 2% inflation :?
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Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
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JoMoney wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:59 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:18 am
aristotelian wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:44 am I noticed that today the yield curve is actually completely non-inverted for the first time in many months.

1M 0.08
2M 0.09
3M 0.11
6M 0.13
1Y 0.16
2Y 0.20
3Y 0.26
5Y 0.37
7Y 0.52
10Y 0.62
20Y 1.00
30Y 1.20
Who would have ever thought that we would have a “non invested” yield curve with the 30 year at 1.20%?
And people buying them ... while the central bank say's they target 2% inflation :?
Is there something I'm missing about TIPS such that people don't just buy them whenever yields are below 2%... does something like VTIP (short term TIPS) not actually keep up with inflation? Or maybe, while 2% is a target, it can actually be quite a bit less?
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Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:52 pm
McGilicutty wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:38 am So all-time highs sometime next week? Or is that too bearish? :twisted:
Maybe all time highs next week is a little bullish. :D

But, just maybe, against all logic, we could reclaim the 3,000 level on S&P soon. Less than 2% more to go!
I won't be surprised at all if we do. But I'll be surprised if we don't fall below it again within the next year though.
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atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
Tesla was up +4.08% and now +9.16% after hours. Over $873 a share :mrgreen:

FB AH +10.00%

MSFT AH +5.00%

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Corsair wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:51 pm
atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
Tesla was up +4.08% and now +9.16% after hours. Over $873 a share :mrgreen:

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I almost bought a few shares of TSLA for the fun of it, but held off. That is a stock I will never understand
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RussellWilson wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:44 pm...
Is there something I'm missing about TIPS such that people don't just buy them whenever yields are below 2%... does something like VTIP (short term TIPS) not actually keep up with inflation? Or maybe, while 2% is a target, it can actually be quite a bit less?
Despite the Fed 'targeting' 2%, it can (and has) varied quite a bit off from that.
As far as VTIP goes.. well.. I don't know how to explain what I see here:
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atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
I would not be surprised if we hit 3000 tomorrow.
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total portfolio down 3.2% from peak
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TechGuy365 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:12 pm
atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
I would not be surprised if we hit 3000 tomorrow.
Unless something happens overnight, it's almost certain with FB now up 10% and Microsoft up another 4%.
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bugleheadd wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:16 pm total portfolio down 3.2% from peak
Amazing recovery. Hope you'll achieve new high this week (maybe even tomorrow)!!
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bugleheadd wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:16 pm total portfolio down 3.2% from peak
My strongly tilted 100% equity portfolio is not much further from the peak, although it took quite a few contributions as well to maintain that. I look forward to all-time highs soon :twisted:.
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TechGuy365 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:24 pm
bugleheadd wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:16 pm total portfolio down 3.2% from peak
Amazing recovery. Hope you'll achieve new high this week (maybe even tomorrow)!!
+1 and Future is up for now.
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BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:20 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am I just finished watching the WWII documentary on Netflix yesterday. To even think Japan and Germany and the world have any meaningful recovery after that level of destruction within a couple of decades is mind boggling. The current crisis is bad, but nothing compare to back then. Don’t bet against humanity.
Which one? I'm big into WWII history, that was such a fascinating time to study.
Greatest events of WWII in colors. It even has an episode on the battle of Bulge, the one Taylor Larimore was in!
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Well in another 3 or 4 months we will be back up barring something big unforeseen.Image
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Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:50 pm Well in another 3 or 4 months we will be back up barring something big unforeseen.Image
Dude seriously, what are you talking about?
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McGilicutty wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:38 am So all-time highs sometime next week? Or is that too bearish? :twisted:
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MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:35 pm
BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:20 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am I just finished watching the WWII documentary on Netflix yesterday. To even think Japan and Germany and the world have any meaningful recovery after that level of destruction within a couple of decades is mind boggling. The current crisis is bad, but nothing compare to back then. Don’t bet against humanity.
Which one? I'm big into WWII history, that was such a fascinating time to study.
Greatest events of WWII in colors. It even has an episode on the battle of Bulge, the one Taylor Larimore was in!
I believe the series is called World War II in Colour. I’ve also been watching it on Netflix. It’s excellent. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2069688/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I also recommend The World at War (1973-76), a groundbreaking 26-part documentary series narrated by the actor Laurence Olivier about the deadliest conflict in history, World War II. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071075/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
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ARoseByAnyOtherName wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:53 pm
Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:50 pm Well in another 3 or 4 months we will be back up barring something big unforeseen.Image
Dude seriously, what are you talking about?
That's what I'm talking about.
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RussellWilson wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:44 pm
JoMoney wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:59 pm
Stinky wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:18 am
aristotelian wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:44 am I noticed that today the yield curve is actually completely non-inverted for the first time in many months.

1M 0.08
2M 0.09
3M 0.11
6M 0.13
1Y 0.16
2Y 0.20
3Y 0.26
5Y 0.37
7Y 0.52
10Y 0.62
20Y 1.00
30Y 1.20
Who would have ever thought that we would have a “non invested” yield curve with the 30 year at 1.20%?
And people buying them ... while the central bank say's they target 2% inflation :?
Is there something I'm missing about TIPS such that people don't just buy them whenever yields are below 2%... does something like VTIP (short term TIPS) not actually keep up with inflation? Or maybe, while 2% is a target, it can actually be quite a bit less?
30 yr Treasuries are only yielding 1.2%, which is below the fed’s inflation target. But 30 yr TIPS are yielding negative .2%. Pick your poison.

That being said, if you wanted to buy treasuries and you were convinced that the Fed would nail their 2% inflation target over the next 30 years, then yes, it would make sense to buy TIPS over nominals. You would receive a -.2% real return, vs -.6% with nominals.
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Nicolas wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:01 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:35 pm
BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:20 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am I just finished watching the WWII documentary on Netflix yesterday. To even think Japan and Germany and the world have any meaningful recovery after that level of destruction within a couple of decades is mind boggling. The current crisis is bad, but nothing compare to back then. Don’t bet against humanity.
Which one? I'm big into WWII history, that was such a fascinating time to study.
Greatest events of WWII in colors. It even has an episode on the battle of Bulge, the one Taylor Larimore was in!
I believe the series is called World War II in Colour. I’ve also been watching it on Netflix. It’s excellent. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2069688/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I also recommend The World at War (1973-76), a groundbreaking 26-part documentary series narrated by the actor Laurence Olivier about the deadliest conflict in history, World War II. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071075/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
+1. These are both outstanding.

I did not know Taylor was in the Battle of the Bulge! I would love to buy that man a coffee sometime.
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Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:07 pm That's what I'm talking about.
No offense, but you look silly here. We're all smarter than that.
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HomerJ wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:33 pm
Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:07 pm That's what I'm talking about.
No offense, but you look silly here. We're all smarter than that.
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BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:27 pm I did not know Taylor was in the Battle of the Bulge! I would love to buy that man a coffee sometime.
Isn't that amazing. One of the founders of this website was there. 20 seems like a long time ago to me... What does it feel like to you Taylor?
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BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:27 pm
Nicolas wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:01 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:35 pm
BW1985 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:20 pm
MiddleOfTheRoad wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:34 am I just finished watching the WWII documentary on Netflix yesterday. To even think Japan and Germany and the world have any meaningful recovery after that level of destruction within a couple of decades is mind boggling. The current crisis is bad, but nothing compare to back then. Don’t bet against humanity.
Which one? I'm big into WWII history, that was such a fascinating time to study.
Greatest events of WWII in colors. It even has an episode on the battle of Bulge, the one Taylor Larimore was in!
I believe the series is called World War II in Colour. I’ve also been watching it on Netflix. It’s excellent. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2069688/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0

I also recommend The World at War (1973-76), a groundbreaking 26-part documentary series narrated by the actor Laurence Olivier about the deadliest conflict in history, World War II. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071075/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
+1. These are both outstanding.

I did not know Taylor was in the Battle of the Bulge! I would love to buy that man a coffee sometime.
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Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:35 pm
HomerJ wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:33 pm
Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:07 pm That's what I'm talking about.
No offense, but you look silly here. We're all smarter than that.
Yes I may look silly but for those who know they will see.
No seriously, ton of smart people here.. You've been misled.
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HomerJ wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:36 pm
Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:35 pm
HomerJ wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:33 pm
Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:07 pm That's what I'm talking about.
No offense, but you look silly here. We're all smarter than that.
Yes I may look silly but for those who know they will see.
No seriously, ton of smart people here.. You've been misled.
I didn't say that. What I said that those who know will know.
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siamond wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:37 am
firebirdparts wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:00 amWhatever I might do now, I wouldn't try to time the market now. It's drunk. When I saw that big pop in futures this morning, I thought the market's gone from whiskey to heroin this morning.
That is the best characterization I've read in a while... Totally drunk indeed... :shock:
I didn't expect such a comment from you Siamond.

I like it. :wink:
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Tough time to be a bear right now. JPOW and the FANNGs are handing people their butts, I'm down just a paltry 8% at this point courtesy of the wisdom of various forum members & Mr. Bogle.

That said, I'm perfectly fine with/prepared for another "retrace", "dead cat bounce" or whatever people are calling it these days, this crash so far has been very profitable :) .

Still puzzling to me how Bogleheads have a big sign on the "wall" which says "Do *this*, you'll make tons of money -- it's worked for a hundred years." .... yet many people are like "Nahhhh...." . Mind blowing to me.
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willthrill81 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:49 pm
siamond wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:37 am
firebirdparts wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:00 amWhatever I might do now, I wouldn't try to time the market now. It's drunk. When I saw that big pop in futures this morning, I thought the market's gone from whiskey to heroin this morning.
That is the best characterization I've read in a while... Totally drunk indeed... :shock:
I didn't expect such a comment from you Siamond.

I like it. :wink:
I am not exactly a believer in EMH... Never have been, and even less after witnessing the past 2 months... :shock:

Unfortunately, I also do NOT believe that inefficient (drunk?) markets can be timed... :twisted:
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atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:55 pm
Corsair wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:51 pm
atdharris wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:36 pm Probably back to S&P 3000 tomorrow. The FAANGs of MSFT and FB are surging after hours and will pull the indexes up with them. I'll admit, I don't hold many individual stocks, but I do own some Microsoft, FB, Apple and Amazon.
Tesla was up +4.08% and now +9.16% after hours. Over $873 a share :mrgreen:

Strongest economy in the history of the world!
I almost bought a few shares of TSLA for the fun of it, but held off. That is a stock I will never understand
Tesla had a profit and Ford didn’t, Tesla PE ratio could actually be lower than Ford this year
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siamond wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:57 pm
willthrill81 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:49 pm
siamond wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:37 am
firebirdparts wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:00 amWhatever I might do now, I wouldn't try to time the market now. It's drunk. When I saw that big pop in futures this morning, I thought the market's gone from whiskey to heroin this morning.
That is the best characterization I've read in a while... Totally drunk indeed... :shock:
I didn't expect such a comment from you Siamond.

I like it. :wink:
I am not exactly a believer in EMH... Never have been, and even less after witnessing the past 2 months... :shock:

Unfortunately, I also do NOT believe that inefficient (drunk?) markets can be timed... :twisted:
Maybe I'll win you over one day yet! :beer
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Crazy day in the markets again! Soon the question will become “What crash or sell off”?
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abuss368 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:06 pm Crazy day in the markets again! Soon the question will become “What crash or sell off”?
+1
WAG- Labor day and people will be saying “What crash or sell off”.
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mrspock wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:52 pm Tough time to be a bear right now. JPOW and the FANNGs are handing people their butts, I'm down just a paltry 8% at this point courtesy of the wisdom of various forum members & Mr. Bogle.

That said, I'm perfectly fine with/prepared for another "retrace", "dead cat bounce" or whatever people are calling it these days, this crash so far has been very profitable :) .

Still puzzling to me how Bogleheads have a big sign on the "wall" which says "Do *this*, you'll make tons of money -- it's worked for a hundred years." .... yet many people are like "Nahhhh...." . Mind blowing to me.
I see the JPOW nickname on wallstreetbets reddit. Hang out there too?
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Mactheriverrat wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:18 pm
abuss368 wrote: Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:06 pm Crazy day in the markets again! Soon the question will become “What crash or sell off”?
+1
WAG- Labor day and people will be saying “What crash or sell off”.
So what's the move?
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"House of Cards" isn't a TV show - it's the stock market right now :wink:
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Forester wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:41 am "House of Cards" isn't a TV show - it's the stock market right now :wink:
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