How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by researcher » Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:59 pm

onourway wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:27 pm
I didn't misread anything. I was not making recommendations for the OP...

I can find plenty of evidence of people fitting 3 car seats across in a Model 3. I haven't yet seen evidence of 3 boosters across other than the inflatable Bubblebums which fit in just about anything but are not a permanent solution, IMO.
My responses here are directly addressing the OP's situation (who has one 10 month old child).
Discussing a hypothetical person with three kids at the same age/height/weight who needs to fit 3 BOOSTER seats at the same time is irrelevant to this thread and the OP.

Nonetheless, it still seems possible to fit 3 boosters if needed.
I'm not sure why you feel the Bubblebum is not a "permanent" solution...
The BubbleBum meets and exceeds the safety requirements of the FMVSS213 (Federal Motor Safety Standard for USA).
The BubbleBum is made from a durable material, similar to that of life vests. The integrity of the structure of the seat comprises of memory foam and a strong webbing harness.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by onourway » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:14 pm

researcher wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 3:59 pm
My responses here are directly addressing the OP's situation (who has one 10 month old child).
Discussing a hypothetical person with three kids at the same age/height/weight who needs to fit 3 BOOSTER seats at the same time is irrelevant to this thread and the OP.

Nonetheless, it still seems possible to fit 3 boosters if needed.
I'm not sure why you feel the Bubblebum is not a "permanent" solution...
The BubbleBum meets and exceeds the safety requirements of the FMVSS213 (Federal Motor Safety Standard for USA).
The BubbleBum is made from a durable material, similar to that of life vests. The integrity of the structure of the seat comprises of memory foam and a strong webbing harness.
You were the first person in this thread to bring up the subject of 3 across, so I’m really not understanding why you are giving me a hard time about it. :confused Anyhow, the point was also made that you may sometimes want to bring friends along and that may play a role in the choice of vehicles even for a family with only one at the moment.

We own several of the Bubblebum’s between ourselves and grandparents. There are good reasons why they aren’t a great permanent solution. The only one that really matters though is that their stability in a crash depends on threading BOTH sides of the seatbelt through their belt position clips. These do not stay connected; they must be attached every time the seat is in use. Fine for a temporary use while on vacation. Not something you will want to do every single time the kid gets into the car (let alone x2 or x3).

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by EnjoyIt » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:53 pm

SeaToTheBay wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:18 pm
HereToLearn wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:11 pm
Do you anticipate wanting to drive your child's friends anywhere?
That's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking about... And these days with car seats required until a much later age than when I was growing up, 3 across in the back basically isn't possible for a number of years. Hmm...
bloom2708 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:03 pm
With 1 kid, you can drive anything.

The 2nd and really the 3rd can alter the dynamics based on the ages.
I also have a Lotus Elise so I don't think I can drive ANYthing with 1 kid :D
You have plans on selling the Elise or is this a "hold forever car?"

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by researcher » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:15 pm

onourway wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:14 pm
You were the first person in this thread to bring up the subject of 3 across, so I’m really not understanding why you are giving me a hard time about it. :confused
I simply addressed a comment from the OP about fitting multiple carseats in a Model 3, by providing evidence that it is possible.
You acknowledged this was certainly possible.

It was you who brought up the issue of fitting three BOOSTER SEATS in the vehicle.
My point is that the OP currently has ONE 10 month old child, with no plans for future kids.
If another kid does happen to come along in the future, the OP will have various types of carseats in use, but no need for three booster seats.

And despite all of this, there are options available to, in fact, fit 3 booster seats in the vehicle.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by clutchied » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:23 pm

SeaToTheBay wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:59 pm
I currently have a BMW M3 sedan and am thinking about replacing it with a Tesla Model 3. My wife has a same-sized car (Mercedes C-class) that she wants to keep a few more years, and we both hate driving big cars. We have a 10-month-old son and are leaning toward not having any more kids, although haven't ruled it out.

Despite being a huge car enthusiast, I tend to keep cars for a few years (the transaction cost kills me and I've never bought a new car before), so I want to make sure a Model 3 will have enough space for our kiddo (or two?) and all the things he will want to do for the first few years of his life. While our compact sedans have worked fine so far, taking all his baby gear for even a weekend trip (bulky car seat, cooler, luggage, bassinet at the time, etc.) filled up the whole car. I guess there are roof boxes you can buy for longer trips...

Am I missing an opportunity to meaningfully upsize our car for the next few years? I don't like driving anything bigger than I need because big cars are bulky/cumbersome to drive and park. Is there any sport or activity he's likely to want to do over the next several years that would require a bigger car? I remember taking up the cello while growing up and that filling up most of a good-sized trunk, but that wasn't until middle school. Tesla has their Model Y SUV coming out soon, but that's additional bulk, cost, and delay that I'm wondering if I can do fine without.
I have an 8 and 5 year old both in school.

The model 3 is great for us and has tons of space. It's a super safe car and the kids love it. Hopefully my daughter will drive it to school in 8 years.

As a "BMW guy" myself you'll love the model 3. Do I miss some things about my 330i? Sure but the model 3 is the best car I've owned. I don't think I can ever go back.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by RudyS » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:37 pm

stoptothink wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:20 pm
Brianmcg321 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm
Tahoe or bigger.
Definitely this :sharebeer . We went on 10+ day road trips, with camping gear for 4, with both our kids...in an '09 hyundai accent 3-door hatch. It's a tad more comfortable in the VW jetta now. If you need more space than a subcompact offers while transporting a single kid, the bigger issue is what the heck are you bringing. 3 kids changes everything on this front.
Subaru Outback should work for that, and it's not that big. Take a look at one, and estimate what the rear could hold.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by StewedCarrot » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:57 pm

kelvan80 wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:23 pm
For long trips where you need more space you could always rent a smaller suv but for one kiddo I wouldn't make any changes.
Second this suggestion. Just use what you have. Don't get anything new until you get past the spilled milk and gummie bears stage. If you want something bigger for a trip, rent it.

On the other hand, a Volvo or BMW wagon might be fun and practical!

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by Super Hans » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:04 pm

We're two adults and one kid. Early on, I feel like the rear-facing Clek car seat required a huge car. It fit in a Cadillac XTS and in a Ford Explorer. As we transitioned to forward-facing and eventually a booster, obviously anything can work. I've really enjoyed the X3, Mercedes GLC, and Alfa Stelvio on family vacations--all compact SUVs that seemed about the same size. The Volvo V90 is a nice wagon, much more fun to drive than I expected of a wagon. Looking forward, I'm debating whether the X1/GLA is going to be comfortable on a road trip. I think the CLA Shooting Brake is even smaller. The challenge here is that I'm renting cars so there's a lot of uncertainty as to specifically what I get to drive in the end. Driving the Stelvio Pass this summer, it looks like an E class is my best bet, but ironically the eponymous Alfa-Romeo isn't available.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by fasteddie911 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:47 am

I can't imagine any reason why you'll need more cargo space for the next few years. You'll figure things out and make whatever you have work. Whether it's packing lighter, cargo box, renting something bigger, etc. No sense in buying a car for the handful of times you'll potentially use all the space.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by BanquetBeer » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:26 am

Both the wife and I are tall, with a rear facing seat I wouldn’t go anywhere far in a compact. With front facing seats, you’re probably fine until about 10 years old if you don’t take any trips.

However the utility in a larger car is not just can I drive my kids to daycare. It is I want to get some furniture for my kid and the package at ikea won’t fit in my compact. Do I pay for delivery? Ask someone to borrow a car?

When we go camping, firewood in town is way cheaper than in the park - do I unload and drive back or eat the cost?

Let me drop off recycling - wait, I have to unpack it from the bin into my trunk because it won’t fit.

All these little things add up to a fair amount of inconvenience. Maybe I just go out and about and do things with the kids - I know plenty of families who basically stay at home.

I also worry about safety. I saw a full size pickup truck being towed with the whole side doors smashed in by 6” and I though to myself “that doesn’t seem so safe”. Then 2 cars in front was the suburban with the hood smashed in by 1-2feet. If that hit me in my car, I don’t know if I would have survived. That puts their radiator around my window height.

Our other car is a van, and it’s pretty awesome. However what do you really gain by driving an Compact over a hatch?

A BMW model 3 is $41k and gets 31 mpg. A model x3 is $42k and gets 27mpg.

I’m not seeing any real reasoning why people act like it is a big imposition to get a SUV or hatch over a sedan?

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by sambb » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:02 am

before you buy a model 3, be sure to look at the tesla forums on the water damage threads, and repair threads. Also the break ins via the quarter panel. nevertheless, you might like the car if it doesnt have issues. Also look at the cusotmer service issues.
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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by MnD » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:15 am

For two kids the primary kid hauler was a Toyota Corolla age 0-8 followed by three Subaru Outbacks (ages 8 to permanent move out). The last two Outbacks were what they learned to drive on when they turned 16, drove in high school and college and one of them is still the primary vehicle for our youngest now 24! The Outbacks were great cars for hauling kids stuff, camping and great safe cars (stable, slow, awesome in bad winter weather) for kids to learn on. We always did have my small or midsized pickup trucks for backup if we needed to haul major stuff.
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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by WarAdmiral » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:24 am

dm200 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:26 am


While many different and smaller vehicles may be "adequate", we found the minivan to be much superior in our situation.

Same here. Imagine how many times you are going to have to put the kid in and pull him out of the car seat before the age of 5.

The "Sliding Door" of the minivan with a push button open-close feature is a lifesaver.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by SeaToTheBay » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:01 pm

Thanks all for the replies! I ended up test driving a Model 3 last Friday and liked it a lot. Comfortable, tons of power, and Autopilot was fantastic. However, it's hard for me to justify spending the $30k over the value of my '11 M3 for the Performance model (which I would require as a lifelong car nut!) after taxes. Luckily my M3 is hardly depreciating anymore (rare combo of V8, manual transmission in a sedan, along with many options highly desired by car nuts) so maybe in a couple of years the price delta will be smaller with a used Model 3. Or ideally, I can get my wife to get one :D
EnjoyIt wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:53 pm
SeaToTheBay wrote:
Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:18 pm
I also have a Lotus Elise so I don't think I can drive ANYthing with 1 kid :D
You have plans on selling the Elise or is this a "hold forever car?"
I always have my eye out for more exotic cars to dream about, however I'd have to drive them first before ever buying one because I'm not sure anything will really be more fun and rewarding to drive. Everything else seems big, heavy, and numb after the Lotus. Plus it's an easy fun 2nd car to somewhat rationalize given zero depreciation, very reasonable running costs, etc. vs. the massive ownership costs of something like a Ferrari.

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by Jack FFR1846 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:14 pm

There isn't anything as fun as an Elise/Exige, period. Keep it if you can. I had 2 seaters during the entire time my kids were growing up. I sold my Lotus in the midst of my older son's college time. It paid for a semester. :?
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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by BalancedJCB19 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:20 pm

We only have one kid. She is 25 now. I drove a Ford Escort and Ford Focus during those years. Never had any issues. You could make due with any thing

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Re: How big of a car do you need for a kid and his/her stuff?

Post by CMD1 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:45 pm

We have one car, a Camry with 2 kids. We've used it for camping trips with a carrier on the roof and other things. No problems, sure a bigger car would be nice but not worth the expense or hassle of daily driving in our urban neighborhood.

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