Study ranks 4,500 colleges by net present value of 40 year ROI

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Re: Can you guess what this ranked list of colleges is?

Post by stoptothink » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:04 pm

IMO wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:53 pm
Munir wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:25 am
sunny_socal wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:57 am
Munir wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:24 pm
Why does one go to college? To make money or to gain an education? Or both? If both, what are the percentages for each goal? Such clarifying questions hopefully would lead to a school choice consistent with one's goals. Or am I misunderstanding the purposes & goals of this article?
Money. 'Education' these days is brainwashing.

I'll make sure my kids are truly educated:
- Know the difference between a truth and a lie
- Recognize how statistics can be made to lie
- How polls can be skewed
- Understand how half-truths can also be a lie

So that means sticking them into a community college or an engineering school. No way they're going to a liberal arts school if I have anything to do with it.
I don't agree. A true liberal arts education in undergraduate school would encourage an inquisitive mind & critical analysis thus creating a sound basis for a career in whatever profession a student chooses. Such an open mind is required to address the value questions one faces in life. A stand-alone technical education is insufficient.
That's funny because earlier in my life I used to think like the last post. Now in my older wiser years, it's seems apparent in my view of life that having a college education in general doesn't seem to do a great job a developing truly critical thinking. Even on the most basic of things like critically thinking about simple things like "is this one product truly better than the other product" can be lacking with highly educated individuals that I've interacted with in life.
+1. As I spend more time in academia, now as a professor, I feel more and more strongly about this. IMO, academia is a poor and terribly cost-inefficient method of developing "critical thinking" skills that are relevant in the real world, and it seems to be getting worse.

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Re: Can you guess what this ranked list of colleges is?

Post by smitcat » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:19 pm

IMO wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:53 pm
Munir wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:25 am
sunny_socal wrote:
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:57 am
Munir wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:24 pm
Why does one go to college? To make money or to gain an education? Or both? If both, what are the percentages for each goal? Such clarifying questions hopefully would lead to a school choice consistent with one's goals. Or am I misunderstanding the purposes & goals of this article?
Money. 'Education' these days is brainwashing.

I'll make sure my kids are truly educated:
- Know the difference between a truth and a lie
- Recognize how statistics can be made to lie
- How polls can be skewed
- Understand how half-truths can also be a lie

So that means sticking them into a community college or an engineering school. No way they're going to a liberal arts school if I have anything to do with it.
I don't agree. A true liberal arts education in undergraduate school would encourage an inquisitive mind & critical analysis thus creating a sound basis for a career in whatever profession a student chooses. Such an open mind is required to address the value questions one faces in life. A stand-alone technical education is insufficient.
That's funny because earlier in my life I used to think like the last post. Now in my older wiser years, it's seems apparent in my view of life that having a college education in general doesn't seem to do a great job a developing truly critical thinking. Even on the most basic of things like critically thinking about simple things like "is this one product truly better than the other product" can be lacking with highly educated individuals that I've interacted with in life.
"Even on the most basic of things like critically thinking about simple things like "is this one product truly better than the other product" can be lacking with highly educated individuals that I've interacted with in life."

FWIW - our daughter was well able to view the relative value of products before college age.

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Re: Study ranks 4,500 colleges by net present value of 40 year ROI

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