barnaclebob wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:26 am
adam61 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:35 pm
It’s 2012 Genesis R-spec with about 75k miles.
Your problem is you tried to keep a Hyundai into old age. There is a reason their prices are so much lower than similar spec'd competitors.
Hyundai has a decent reputation for reliability, and 75,000 miles isn't old age.
But perhaps their foray into the luxury market led them into features they hadn't matured as much as in their more basic cars, especially in the 1st generation.
Now that I know what car it was, I observe that there was one failure of an item related to the powertrain (alternator - which itself may well have been a different part than used on their higher production-volume models, which would have fewer electric-hungry features), and the rest were convenience features: thermostat, sunroof, power seat, and infotainment system. Maybe this is part of a luxury car learning curve for Hyundai.
alfaspider wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:47 pm
Battery packs going out haven't been a significant concern for Teslas. There are Model S Teslas with 300k+ miles on the original battery pack.
I don't want to take the time to look up the data again, but there is a really great project among Tesla owners to track battery longevity (as reported by the car's computer) that shows a very wide range of results. Some were lasting a really long time, but I'm pretty sure some had worn out before even 100,000 miles. I dug into the data a little bit a few months back, and it appeared to support my suspicion that it is highly correlated to where and how the car is used. Lithium ion batteries wear out faster:
* When charged at high rates (frequent use of super-chargers)
* When discharged at high rates (driving hard)
* When kept constantly topped up (plugging in even after short trips)
* When at high temperatures for long periods of time (living in hot climates)
* When deep cycled (Regularly stretching a charge to the limit)
Tesla appears to have some good software in place to mitigate factors like plugging in all the time or deep cycling, but there are limits to how much they can mitigate hot climates, hard driving, and excessive super-charger use.
alfaspider wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:47 pm
What breaks with Teslas tend to be ancillary items like door handles.
Hmm...I remember thinking Tesla was going to have a lot trouble with those when the S was introduced, but I honestly never went looking to see if users were complaining until you mentioned it just now. It looks like the Tesla forum is filled with discussions about it.