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Dealing with Jeep for warranty claims. Updates with new problem

Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:24 pm

Have 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with loud ticking noise from engine. Sounds like valve train. I did an oil change one time and found metal flakes. Usually had the oil changed at a Ford/Nissan dealer for the life of the vehicle. Drivetrain warranty expires 5 years/100k miles. We are just over 95k and I set up an appointment. We are the original owners.

The Jeep dealer just did an oil change last month when I took it there for a safety recall fix. Seems like they would have noticed the noise as it has been going on for a while before I took it in. Was wondering how much difficulty I will have to get them to fix the engine? I have delt with Infinity before with bad results when a low milage vehicle we bought new dropped a valve. I serviced the car myself back then since nearest Infinity dealer was a 5 hour 1 way drive. I took the Jeep to the Ford dealer because I don't like our local Jeep dealer and wanted to have the service done at a dealer so there would be a record of it.
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Re: Dealing with Jeep for warranty claims. Any tips?

Post by fortfun » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:31 pm

ChinchillaWhiplash wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:24 pm
Have 2015 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk with loud ticking noise from engine. Sounds like valve train. I did an oil change one time and found metal flakes. Usually had the oil changed at a Ford/Nissan dealer for the life of the vehicle. Drivetrain warranty expires 5 years/100k miles. We are just over 95k and I set up an appointment. We are the original owners.

The Jeep dealer just did an oil change last month when I took it there for a safety recall fix. Seems like they would have noticed the noise as it has been going on for a while before I took it in. Was wondering how much difficulty I will have to get them to fix the engine? I have delt with Infinity before with bad results when a low milage vehicle we bought new dropped a valve. I serviced the car myself back then since nearest Infinity dealer was a 5 hour 1 way drive. I took the Jeep to the Ford dealer because I don't like our local Jeep dealer and wanted to have the service done at a dealer so there would be a record of it.
I had a Dodge Dakota (same manufacturer as Jeep) that made a strange noise every time I got up to 30mph. I kept taking it back to the dealer, probably a dozen times, before they finally put me on the phone with corporate office. Corporate office was able to pull up a brand new service bulletin that was able to correct the problem. Had I not been persistent taking it back to the dealer, I would have never had the phone call with corporate office, and the truck may have never been fixed. I'd keep taking it back to the dealership until they escalate the problem to corporate. At that point, corporate will usually provide some sort of a solution but you'll need to be persistent, at least that was my experience. Also, bringing it in for the same problem, many times, will help document that there was a problem long before the warranty expired. On a side note, I've only purchased Toyota since that time...
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Post by Alexa9 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 7:40 pm

I would document the problem while under warranty in case you need proof when it is out of warranty. I'd have the dealer and a private mechanic look at it.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:54 am

Would a good way of documenting be to video the ticking, show odometer reading, and the VIN? Would hope that would be adequate. I might try and contact the main company customer service as well. I had to do this with Infinity and they make it very difficult to find out how to contact them. Guess they don't want to hear about your problems :oops: Hope Jeep is easier to deal with.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:40 pm

Found that these engines, 3.2 L VVT 24 valve OHC, are prone to have problems with valve train. Ticking sound that mine is making is usually caused by defective rocker arm bearings. Usually causes excessive wear on the camshaft too. This should be an item covered under the 5 yr/100,000 power train warranty. If you hear a loud ticking noise from the engine bay, have it checked out at the dealer. Will report back with results once I get the results of our service visit next week. Wish me luck :|

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Post by hand » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:07 pm

If it were me, I'd do everything in my power not to cross the 100k milage threshold until this issue is resolved - why give Jeep an easy out?

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Post by sjt » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:12 pm

No matter the outcome, I would recommend selling the vehicle. I would not want to have a Chrysler product after the warranty period ended.
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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:11 pm

Yeah, looks like this vehicle is an overall lemon with 292 TSBs! 74 TSB is the average for any particular vehicle.

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Post by Morgan Dollar 1921 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:49 pm

sjt wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:12 pm
No matter the outcome, I would recommend selling the vehicle. I would not want to have a Chrysler product after the warranty period ended.
Agree, at first I thought oil analysis for metal contamination to determine the percentage, but then I thought, add that amount to your trade diff and move on. What happened to the 4.0L durability? Gone with the wind!

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:18 pm

Morgan Dollar 1921 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:49 pm
sjt wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:12 pm
No matter the outcome, I would recommend selling the vehicle. I would not want to have a Chrysler product after the warranty period ended.
Agree, at first I thought oil analysis for metal contamination to determine the percentage, but then I thought, add that amount to your trade diff and move on. What happened to the 4.0L durability? Gone with the wind!
Yeah, wish they would bring back the old 4.0 straight 6. That engine was great!

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Post by FlyAF » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:37 pm

So you took it to the dealer and didn't bother to tell them about the issue, but expected them to just pick up on it? Doesn't seem like the best plan. My tip seems like an obvious one to me, but I'd suggest taking it to the dealer and making them aware of the problem before the warranty runs out? :shock:

Edit to add: I mean, you haven't even given them a chance to rectify the situation.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:45 pm

FlyAF wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:37 pm
So you took it to the dealer and didn't bother to tell them about the issue, but expected them to just pick up on it? Doesn't seem like the best plan. My tip seems like an obvious one to me, but I'd suggest taking it to the dealer and making them aware of the problem before the warranty runs out? :shock:

Edit to add: I mean, you haven't even given them a chance to rectify the situation.
I have an appointment specifically to look at the problem. But, yes, just now getting them to look at it. If they had good mechanics, they would have noticed the noise and said something, one would think. I mean, it should pretty obvious to a trained professional. If you went to a primary care physician for a flu shot and they see a large, irregular, funny colored mole on your face, wouldn't you think they would be concerned and say something to you?

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Post by FlyAF » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:52 pm

ChinchillaWhiplash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:45 pm
FlyAF wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:37 pm
So you took it to the dealer and didn't bother to tell them about the issue, but expected them to just pick up on it? Doesn't seem like the best plan. My tip seems like an obvious one to me, but I'd suggest taking it to the dealer and making them aware of the problem before the warranty runs out? :shock:

Edit to add: I mean, you haven't even given them a chance to rectify the situation.
I have an appointment specifically to look at the problem. But, yes, just now getting them to look at it. If they had good mechanics, they would have noticed the noise and said something, one would think. I mean, it should pretty obvious to a trained professional. If you went to a primary care physician for a flu shot and they see a large, irregular, funny colored mole on your face, wouldn't you think they would be concerned and say something to you?
Apples and oranges. A dealership mech isn't just going to start pointing out things that they're going to have to fix at a discount under warranty.

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ChinchillaWhiplash wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:45 pm
FlyAF wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:37 pm
So you took it to the dealer and didn't bother to tell them about the issue, but expected them to just pick up on it? Doesn't seem like the best plan. My tip seems like an obvious one to me, but I'd suggest taking it to the dealer and making them aware of the problem before the warranty runs out? :shock:

Edit to add: I mean, you haven't even given them a chance to rectify the situation.
I have an appointment specifically to look at the problem. But, yes, just now getting them to look at it. If they had good mechanics, they would have noticed the noise and said something, one would think. I mean, it should pretty obvious to a trained professional. If you went to a primary care physician for a flu shot and they see a large, irregular, funny colored mole on your face, wouldn't you think they would be concerned and say something to you?
The oil change monkeys they have are not mechanics and are not going to be looking for problems on your Jeep.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Tue Nov 27, 2018 5:29 pm

Got it to the dealer. They checked the engine and found that a cam shaft is bad along with lifters. Covered under warranty. Just have to have less than the 100k miles when I take it back in for the repair. No hassles and didn't have to prove oil change records or anything. I would rate them as quite good so far.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:17 pm

Jeep has been repaired under warranty. Ended up with failed rocker arms that ate up the lifters and cams. Hopefully it will hold up for a few more years until we want to purchase another vehicle. Worried that there could be damage from all the worn off metal that was floating around in the oil. Hope it did not find its way into crank journal bearings and such. Keeping my fingers crossed.

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Post by hand » Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:08 am

Thanks for the follow-up!

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:58 pm

Well now I have a newish problem. I had been smelling antifreeze and told the dealer the last 2 times I took it in. They said they couldn't find anything. Now steam comes up from the right front of the car around the radiator. I think the fan relays are not working or something. If I drive up a step hill it will get over 200 deg. Park and idle after driving and it will go up to 220. This is in weather around freezing. No fans ever come on. Decided to take it into another dealer 2 hours away. The 1st one left some retaining nuts off of some coolant hose lines where they bolt to an engine mount. I hope that it is something under warranty. Still have 2k miles left of engine drivetrain coverage. I will probably never buy another Fiat, Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep again. Buyer beware.

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Post by Plymouth56 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:42 pm

ChinchillaWhiplash wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:58 pm
I will probably never buy another Fiat, Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep again. Buyer beware.
I feel for you. I said the same thing 7 years ago, except it was anything GM.

There are now two Toyota's in my driveway for a reason.

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Post by Summit111 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:29 pm

Bought a new Jeep Wrangler several years ago...Had transmission, engine, seatbelt, and soft top issues within the first year. Sold it 11 months after I purchased it for $150 more than I paid for it...

Toyota’s from then on...Never will buy a Chrysler product again...

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Post by Plymouth56 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:12 pm

Summit111 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:29 pm
Bought a new Jeep Wrangler several years ago...Had transmission, engine, seatbelt, and soft top issues within the first year. Sold it 11 months after I purchased it for $150 more than I paid for it...

Toyota’s from then on...Never will buy a Chrysler product again...

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And ironically the 1985 CJ Jeep I purchased new was absolutely trouble free in the ten years i owned it before Minnesota winters claimed it with rust.

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Post by Jack FFR1846 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:25 pm

It sounds like the service department was incompetent. I wouldn't blame the Jeep for this. Bring your Toyota Camry to me and let me pull some hose clamps out, pull some random hoses off and unbolt a few things and we'll see if the car simply heals itself or if it overheats and blows steam. I'd bet on the latter.
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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:24 pm

Jack FFR1846 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 5:25 pm
It sounds like the service department was incompetent. I wouldn't blame the Jeep for this. Bring your Toyota Camry to me and let me pull some hose clamps out, pull some random hoses off and unbolt a few things and we'll see if the car simply heals itself or if it overheats and blows steam. I'd bet on the latter.
The anti-freeze problem started before they worked on it. I had them 1st check it when it was in the shop for a safety recall. This was the 2nd safety recall. Bought vehicle new 2015. Also have had auto stop/start work off and on. One time on hwy with cruise on, it accelerated up hill to keep speed and then it just kept accelerating once it went over the hill. Went from 70 to about 90 before I realized what was going on. That was what one of the safety recalls was for. Lots of people have had trans issues, electrical issues, and motor problems. I've owned dozens of cars through the years and this has been one of the worst. My 2003 Jeep Wrangler with 5 speed and 4.0L never had problems. I don't know if the newer Jeeps are any good. My dad bought a new Renegade and it went into limp mode after he had it for 1 month. Dealer could not find a problem with it. This was a completely different dealer too.

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Post by ChinchillaWhiplash » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:37 pm

Has a crack in radiator which is part plastic and a leak in lower radiator hose. Ughhh

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Post by munemaker » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:50 pm

Summit111 wrote:
Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:29 pm
Bought a new Jeep Wrangler several years ago...Had transmission, engine, seatbelt, and soft top issues within the first year.

...Never will buy a Chrysler product again...

Summit
The fact that Jeeps are not reliable is well known, and yet people seem to love them. I am not in that group though.

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