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Post by Portfolio7 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:44 am

fennewaldaj wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:30 am
Has anybody else noticed the pattern in the last month that on down days value out performs growth and on up days growth out performs value. Not looking to do anything with that just interesting.
Yes. Growth funds have gone from more consistent outperformance vs value to the more recent mixed bag, following the pattern you describe, with a little deviation here and there as I recall. It's interesting because value now has a reputation as something of a modest safe-haven in bad times, relative to growth, and we are seeing that contention actually play out on a day to day basis. as if the stars were all aligned.

I have suspicions about one aspect of what might be happening, but it's kinda pointless to articulate -I'm not going to change how I invest.
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Post by H-Town » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:50 am

No one here?

U.S. stocks in free fall thread will welcome ya'll back with open arms.

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Post by rudeboy » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:52 pm

H-Town wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:50 am
No one here?

U.S. stocks in free fall thread will welcome ya'll back with open arms.
My IPS tells me to diversify 50/50 between the freefall and soar threads. :D

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Post by nedsaid » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:36 pm

rudeboy wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:52 pm
H-Town wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:50 am
No one here?

U.S. stocks in free fall thread will welcome ya'll back with open arms.
My IPS tells me to diversify 50/50 between the freefall and soar threads. :D
Yep, I find myself doing the same thing. By the way, the US Stock Market is down today.
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Post by dogagility » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:40 pm

H-Town wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:50 am
No one here?

U.S. stocks in free fall thread will welcome ya'll back with open arms.
This is the glass half full, crowd! :P
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Post by oldzey » Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:58 am

Keep on soaring high, apple pie! :beer

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Post by MJW » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:31 pm

oldzey wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:58 am
Keep on soaring high, apple pie! :beer
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Post by samsoes » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:13 am

Bump. Positivity in these dark financial times.
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Post by finite_difference » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:47 am

samsoes wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:13 am
Bump. Positivity in these dark financial times.
Dark financial times? Hardly! It’s more of a flat year, like 2015. Let’s save our pessimism for when things start to actually get interesting. :beer
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Post by tmcc » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:58 am

this is fun. buy and hold tilted for timing will vastly outperform in sideways markets

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samsoes wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:13 am
Bump. Positivity in these dark financial times.
2008 was dark. This is not even twilight.
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Post by ruralavalon » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:04 pm

willthrill81 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:08 am
samsoes wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:13 am
Bump. Positivity in these dark financial times.
2008 was dark. This is not even twilight.
Total return of Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Admiral Shares (VTSAX) is up 1.72% year to date. This is hardly a catastrophe.
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Post by whodidntante » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:44 pm

Yeah look at it go. Lol

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Post by samsoes » Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:25 pm

Run to the hills!

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Post by tmcc » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am

yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit

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Post by Crisium » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:41 am

tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
Yet lump sum on Jan 2 would still be ahead of DCA for the year. :confused

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Post by ruralavalon » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 am

tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
No, not "blindly". I see the risk either way.

Historically lump sum worked better about 2/3 of the time, in stages worked better about 1/3 of the time . It's not possible to say in advance which procedure will be better at any specific time.
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Post by sailaway » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:45 am

tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
How many people are lumping windfalls, versus lumping money as it comes in over and over?

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Post by 22twain » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:40 pm

Looks like we're up so far today. Is it for real, or is it just a "dead turkey bounce"? :wink:
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Post by tmcc » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:24 pm

ruralavalon wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 am
tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
No, not "blindly". I see the risk either way.

Historically lump sum worked better about 2/3 of the time, in stages worked better about 1/3 of the time . It's not possible to say in advance which procedure will be better at any specific time.
and then people have the brass so say , what drop? after making such recommendations

child like and foolhardy nonsense

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Post by Nicolas » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:39 pm

22twain wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:40 pm
Looks like we're up so far today. Is it for real, or is it just a "dead turkey bounce"? :wink:
I think it’s for real and the correction is behind us. The stock market will now zig-zag in an upward trajectory through the end of the year. But this is just my opinion and since I know nothing it’s worthless.
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Post by willthrill81 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:58 pm

None of the economic indicators I'm aware of that have been useful in the past indicate that we're in a recession or that one is in the near future. Stocks can fall significantly outside of a recession (e.g. 1987), but it's historically very unlikely that a bear market will ensue based on current information.
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Post by vwgrrc » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:10 pm

sailaway wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:45 am
tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
How many people are lumping windfalls, versus lumping money as it comes in over and over?
I got a small windfall early Oct and I started with putting down 10k (to be eligible for Admiral share) in lump sum. Then I keep buying in small amount whenever the market drops, like yesterday. Now I just wish I could have wait a little since Vanguard lowered the minimal for Admiral share so that I didn't have to put 10k down that early. Yes I know this sounds like market timing :oops:

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Post by Engineer250 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:27 am

Can't keep this market down, climbing back up!
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Post by bligh » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:12 pm

I'll take responsibility for the the market rally today.

I placed buy orders for some mutual funds with a bunch of new money earlier today. Was keeping my fingers crossed that the market would go down a little. Of course now it will do the opposite. Should've used ETFS! :oops:

Tomorrow will be a big down day though once my purchases are complete.

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Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:07 pm

The top is in!

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Post by Admiral » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:25 pm

tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:24 pm
ruralavalon wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 am
tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
No, not "blindly". I see the risk either way.

Historically lump sum worked better about 2/3 of the time, in stages worked better about 1/3 of the time . It's not possible to say in advance which procedure will be better at any specific time.
and then people have the brass so say , what drop? after making such recommendations

child like and foolhardy nonsense
Actually, you are wrong. It's neither child-like nor foolhardy. No one is claiming that over random short periods lump sum investing may won't lose money (vs DCA or any other market-based investment). The argument is based on what has happened over long historical periods. Vanguard's research (https://personal.vanguard.com/pdf/s315.pdf) supports lump sum over DCA assuming a long investment horizon.

If you're worried about short-term drops, buy bonds or use cash. If you want to argue that history should be ignored, you are free to make that argument. But that's all we have.

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Post by Nowizard » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:44 pm

With all the confusing conflicts, it is relatively easy to say "This time it is different," but it is highly likely that what is different are the underlying dynamics, not the eventual outcome.

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Post by oldzey » Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:53 pm

Back in the black. :sharebeer
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Post by Ricchan » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:42 pm

Fed Chair Jerome Powell spoke at Economic Club of New York today.
https://youtu.be/ksGtV-FFfVk?t=1425

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Post by retiringwhen » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:59 pm

Ricchan wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:42 pm
Fed Chair Jerome Powell spoke at Economic Club of New York today.
https://youtu.be/ksGtV-FFfVk?t=1425
And the market appears to have loved it.

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Post by jrbdmb » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:15 pm

tmcc wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:58 am
this is fun. buy and hold tilted for timing will vastly outperform in sideways markets
How exactly do you "tilt for timing?"

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Post by JoMoney » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:24 pm

jrbdmb wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:15 pm
tmcc wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:58 am
this is fun. buy and hold tilted for timing will vastly outperform in sideways markets
How exactly do you "tilt for timing?"
I'm not a proponent of it, but I would imagine it's "market timing" with a fraction of your portfolio... Not all in/out, but if you're normally 60/40 maybe sometimes you go 70/30 or 50/50... maybe you wait for "Really Bad Days" to rebalance, maybe sometimes you "overbalance" with the expectation that you'll revert back to your normal allocation if things play out as anticipated.
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Post by willthrill81 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:49 pm

Was today the biggest up day of the year? I'm not sure how to check.
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Post by JoMoney » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:05 am

willthrill81 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:49 pm
Was today the biggest up day of the year? I'm not sure how to check.
Looks like for the S&P 500 today's +2.30% takes second place for the year (so far)
First place goes to Mar 26 + 2.72%

https://www.investing.com/indices/us-sp ... rical-data
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Post by oldzey » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:28 am

JoMoney wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:05 am
willthrill81 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:49 pm
Was today the biggest up day of the year? I'm not sure how to check.
Looks like for the S&P 500 today's +2.30% takes second place for the year (so far)
First place goes to Mar 26 + 2.72%

https://www.investing.com/indices/us-sp ... rical-data
I'll drink to that! :sharebeer

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Post by TheHouse7 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:56 am

2.3% gain today!!! :greedy
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Post by willthrill81 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:16 am

JoMoney wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 12:05 am
willthrill81 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:49 pm
Was today the biggest up day of the year? I'm not sure how to check.
Looks like for the S&P 500 today's +2.30% takes second place for the year (so far)
First place goes to Mar 26 + 2.72%

https://www.investing.com/indices/us-sp ... rical-data
Thanks! I figured it was close.
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Post by tmcc » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:39 am

JoMoney wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:24 pm
jrbdmb wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:15 pm
tmcc wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:58 am
this is fun. buy and hold tilted for timing will vastly outperform in sideways markets
How exactly do you "tilt for timing?"
I'm not a proponent of it, but I would imagine it's "market timing" with a fraction of your portfolio... Not all in/out, but if you're normally 60/40 maybe sometimes you go 70/30 or 50/50... maybe you wait for "Really Bad Days" to rebalance, maybe sometimes you "overbalance" with the expectation that you'll revert back to your normal allocation if things play out as anticipated.
pretty much your "overbalance" situation. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that aggregate demand is strongest when testing lows again and again.

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Post by tmcc » Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:47 am

Admiral wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:25 pm
tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:24 pm
ruralavalon wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:24 am
tmcc wrote:
Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:36 am
yet recommendations here blindly follow lump sum investing . anyone who lumped in aug - oct has taken a big hit
No, not "blindly". I see the risk either way.

Historically lump sum worked better about 2/3 of the time, in stages worked better about 1/3 of the time . It's not possible to say in advance which procedure will be better at any specific time.
and then people have the brass so say , what drop? after making such recommendations

child like and foolhardy nonsense
Actually, you are wrong. It's neither child-like nor foolhardy. No one is claiming that over random short periods lump sum investing may won't lose money (vs DCA or any other market-based investment). The argument is based on what has happened over long historical periods. Vanguard's research (https://personal.vanguard.com/pdf/s315.pdf) supports lump sum over DCA assuming a long investment horizon.

If you're worried about short-term drops, buy bonds or use cash. If you want to argue that history should be ignored, you are free to make that argument. But that's all we have.
you're jumping from one concept to another. I claimed that people here say, "I know nothing therefore do xyz," then have the brass to say things like "what drop! lol!" when staring at 15% index movements. that is a behavioral fact and not subject to your interpretation. that behavior is child like and foolhardy and probably the biggest limitation of some great ideas behind the investment concepts preached here. I would characterize it as willful ignorance... its kind of bizarre.

the methodology behind the timing of actual investment is a different matter which is not something I addressed.

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tmcc wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:47 am
you're jumping from one concept to another. I claimed that people here say, "I know nothing therefore do xyz," then have the brass to say things like "what drop! lol!" when staring at 15% index movements. that is a behavioral fact and not subject to your interpretation. that behavior is child like and foolhardy and probably the biggest limitation of some great ideas behind the investment concepts preached here. I would characterize it as willful ignorance... its kind of bizarre.
Can you point to some examples of this?

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Post by Admiral » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:26 am

zuma wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:17 am
tmcc wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:47 am
you're jumping from one concept to another. I claimed that people here say, "I know nothing therefore do xyz," then have the brass to say things like "what drop! lol!" when staring at 15% index movements. that is a behavioral fact and not subject to your interpretation. that behavior is child like and foolhardy and probably the biggest limitation of some great ideas behind the investment concepts preached here. I would characterize it as willful ignorance... its kind of bizarre.
Can you point to some examples of this?
+1. I have no idea what tmcc is referring to. Where is there a post where a 15% market movement (or even less) is characterized as "what drop! lol!" (or some similar description)? If anything most of the posts on the board tend to be some derivation of "stay the course" regardless of movements up or down. That's kind of the whole point of this board...

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Post by finite_difference » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:25 am

Admiral wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:26 am
zuma wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:17 am
tmcc wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:47 am
you're jumping from one concept to another. I claimed that people here say, "I know nothing therefore do xyz," then have the brass to say things like "what drop! lol!" when staring at 15% index movements. that is a behavioral fact and not subject to your interpretation. that behavior is child like and foolhardy and probably the biggest limitation of some great ideas behind the investment concepts preached here. I would characterize it as willful ignorance... its kind of bizarre.
Can you point to some examples of this?
+1. I have no idea what tmcc is referring to. Where is there a post where a 15% market movement (or even less) is characterized as "what drop! lol!" (or some similar description)? If anything most of the posts on the board tend to be some derivation of "stay the course" regardless of movements up or down. That's kind of the whole point of this board...
I think when you’re first starting out, that a 15% drop is pretty much lol, but after 10+ years that won’t feel quite the same, lol ;)

Assuming you don’t lose your job as part of that 15% drop.

lol can also be used in many ways, including to add some levity or perspective to an otherwise banal or depressing statement. Like, “Just lost my job. I’m screwed, lol.” Or, “The market just tanked by 15% so now I can’t retire for another 5 years, lol.”
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Post by ruralavalon » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:50 pm

finite_difference wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:25 am
Admiral wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:26 am
zuma wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:17 am
tmcc wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:47 am
you're jumping from one concept to another. I claimed that people here say, "I know nothing therefore do xyz," then have the brass to say things like "what drop! lol!" when staring at 15% index movements. that is a behavioral fact and not subject to your interpretation. that behavior is child like and foolhardy and probably the biggest limitation of some great ideas behind the investment concepts preached here. I would characterize it as willful ignorance... its kind of bizarre.
Can you point to some examples of this?
+1. I have no idea what tmcc is referring to. Where is there a post where a 15% market movement (or even less) is characterized as "what drop! lol!" (or some similar description)? If anything most of the posts on the board tend to be some derivation of "stay the course" regardless of movements up or down. That's kind of the whole point of this board...
I think when you’re first starting out, that a 15% drop is pretty much lol, but after 10+ years that won’t feel quite the same, lol ;)

Assuming you don’t lose your job as part of that 15% drop.

lol can also be used in many ways, including to add some levity or perspective to an otherwise banal or depressing statement. Like, “Just lost my job. I’m screwed, lol.” Or, “The market just tanked by 15% so now I can’t retire for another 5 years, lol.”
Often a member is pointing out (with or without the emoji) that this is not a "bear market", this is at most a "correction" with a drop of 10%, that corrections are fairly frequent events (36 corrections since 1980), and most corrections (26/36 = 72%) remained or transitioned back into bull markets. Corrections are often considered good for the market and for investors. Investopedia, "Correction". So the current correction will likely not be important in the long-run, so should not be not a big cause for concern.

A 10% drop can certainly be unnerving for the new investor who does not know this history, and who does not have this important long-term perspective.
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Post by ReformedSpender » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:05 am

S&P opened up over +1.5% this morning. Here is a list of all other occurrences in the past ~30 years. Quite rare!

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Market history shows that when there's economic blue sky, future returns are low, and when the economy is on the skids, future returns are high. The best fishing is done in the most stormy waters.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by DaftInvestor » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:34 am

We will be soaring back up to all-time highs soon.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by fanmail » Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:24 pm

ReformedSpender wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:05 am
S&P opened up over +1.5% this morning. Here is a list of all other occurrences in the past ~30 years. Quite rare!

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Somehow that seems wrong that we haven't opened up over 1.5% in the last 18 years.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by ReformedSpender » Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:02 pm

fanmail wrote:
Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:24 pm

Somehow that seems wrong that we haven't opened up over 1.5% in the last 18 years.
You are correct, it appears there is missing data (ie April 2001, April 2003, etc).
Market history shows that when there's economic blue sky, future returns are low, and when the economy is on the skids, future returns are high. The best fishing is done in the most stormy waters.

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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by willthrill81 » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:08 pm

I'm going to see if bumping this thread will move stocks up. They appear to have difficulty in determining which direction to go today.
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Re: U.S. stocks continue to soar!

Post by GoldStar » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:25 pm

willthrill81 wrote:
Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:08 pm
I'm going to see if bumping this thread will move stocks up. They appear to have difficulty in determining which direction to go today.
It worked - we are in the green today!

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