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1.5 liter wine

Post by brainstem » Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:51 pm

I need value purchasers' advice .... what is the best bet in red wine for a party that comes in the 1.5 liter bottles?

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the Bogle 2006 Sauvignon Blanc (~$9) is a good taste/value bet.

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Post by PaPaw » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:08 pm

Most any of the "Yellow Tail" Australian reds are good. Depending on your tastes I'd consider the merlot or the shiraz or the shiraz/cabernet blend. In my area they are around $10 to $11 for a 1.5 liter bottle.

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Post by retiredjg » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:15 pm

I like the Australian Merlots - e.g. Lindemans Bin 40 Merlot is my favorite. In Utah, I think it is about $16 for 1.5 liters. Utah tends to be very expensive though, so your milage may vary.

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Post by retiredjg » Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:45 pm

sorry for dissing Merlot and Shiraz, no offense meant.
No offense taken! Think I'll try out the Gabbiano. Would love to visit the villa! jg

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Post by retiredjg » Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:07 pm

Ok, I'm convinced. Not really a Chianti lover, but it has been many years since I tried it. jg

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Post by rwwoods » Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:30 pm

You won't go wrong with Woodbridge by Robert Mondovi. You can get a Merlot or a Cab.
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Post by LifeIsGood » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:39 am

Bogle, of course!

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Post by bearcub » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:28 am

Their is actually a merlot called Bogle from Cali. Not a joke. No it"s a different Bogle not Jack. Tastes preety good.

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Post by MWCA » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:36 am

Bogle has some good stuff. We live about 20 minutes away :) Make a few trips a year and get a nice discount off on cases.

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Post by Plainsman » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:04 am

It depends on the type of party that you are going to, but some would argue that if you are bringing wine to a dinner or cocktail party, you might want to consider bringing two traditional 750mL bottles rather than a magnum bottle. It might be perceived as being a little classier. If however, it is for something like a party to watch the NCAA men's basketball finals last night (which was a GREAT game), a magnum bottle would be fine.

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Frontera

Post by IlliniSigEp » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:15 am

I really like Frontera by Concha y Toro. Concha y Toro is out of Chile. I normally go with the Cab/Merlot mix as a great table wine.

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Post by ryuns » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:24 am

Barefoot and Yellow Tail both make decent very cheap wine. Charles Shaw tastes fine but is usually out of the question because people know exactly how much is cost...

I love Black Mountain's Fat Cat Cab Sauv for $5 for a 750ml, if you have a local Trader Joe's.

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Post by anemone » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:28 am

I'll second the recommendation of the Yellow Tail Shiraz/Cabernet blend, it's surprisingly good for the price. All the curiouser since their white wines are pretty awful IMO.

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Post by johnoutk » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:49 am

MWCA wrote:Bogle has some good stuff. We live about 20 minutes away :) Make a few trips a year and get a nice discount off on cases.
I've been to that winery. (And got lit up sampling the goods, :lol: ) My old roommate from undergrad grew up a couple minutes away from it near Clarksburg

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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by PaPaw » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:49 am

brainstem wrote: PS
the Bogle 2006 Sauvignon Blanc (~$9) is a good taste/value bet.
If you like Sauvignon Blanc, try any of the ones from the Marlborough region of New Zealand. My favorites are Nobilo, Babich, and Kim Crawford which I'd categorize as excellent. They run from $10 to $15 for a 750ml bottle in my area. They are really grape fruity, zingy, dry and crisp. Very different however from Sauvignon Blancs from California, Chile, South Africa though.

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Post by foodnerd » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:20 am

My opinion is that Pinot Noir is one of the most food friendly red wines. Oregon or Cooler climates in California make great pinot. I also like Riesling, Sauvignon Blanc, and Desert Wines.

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Post by MWCA » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:23 am

johnoutk wrote:
MWCA wrote:Bogle has some good stuff. We live about 20 minutes away :) Make a few trips a year and get a nice discount off on cases.
I've been to that winery. (And got lit up sampling the goods, :lol: ) My old roommate from undergrad grew up a couple minutes away from it near Clarksburg
Isnt CLarksburg a weird place. So close to a big city its like this little country town.

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Post by johnoutk » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:45 pm

MWCA wrote:
johnoutk wrote:
MWCA wrote:Bogle has some good stuff. We live about 20 minutes away :) Make a few trips a year and get a nice discount off on cases.
I've been to that winery. (And got lit up sampling the goods, :lol: ) My old roommate from undergrad grew up a couple minutes away from it near Clarksburg
Isnt CLarksburg a weird place. So close to a big city its like this little country town.
Yeah. One minute you are in West Sacramento and the next you're at his big farm.

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Post by UKbloke » Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:25 pm

The Bogle wine would be the perfect gift for Jack if you have the chance to meet him.

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Post by mithrandir » Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:43 am

Stay away from Australian wines. This includes the ubiquitous Yellow Tail.

Australia used to provide good quality wine at a good price but those days are largely in the past because the Aussies have found out they've "been discovered". Inexpensive Australian wine today tastes like alcoholic, over-oaked fruit juice. Yuck!

If you are interested in the best value (of course) in a 1.5 liter, look for wines from Chile and Argentina such as the Frontera and Concha y Toro brands. You can find good values as well from Spain, Portugal, South Africa and even Italy.

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Post by retiredjg » Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:45 am

When Yellow Tail first came out, I thought it was great. As time went on, I liked it less and less. I thought it was because my tastes changed! Still like Lindeman's merlot though....
However, I have bought the Gabbiano Chianti Classico discussed above. Hope to try it later today or tomorrow.

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Post by bearcub » Wed Apr 16, 2008 1:02 am

The new issue of Money mag. has an article about wines produced from Austin located vineyards. Never knew wine came out of Texas.Never had any though.

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Post by retiredjg » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:48 am

retiredjg wrote:However, I have bought the Gabbiano Chianti Classico discussed above. Hope to try it later today or tomorrow.
It was good!

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Post by nonnie » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:12 pm

Thanks for this, I thought it was just my imagination that this stuff is starting to taste like something even worse than Corona. I'm too reserved to talk about cat pee :D
Stay away from Australian wines. This includes the ubiquitous Yellow Tail.Inexpensive Australian wine today tastes like alcoholic, over-oaked fruit juice. Yuck!

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Post by Judsen » Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:07 pm

Three good values come to mind.
Cantina Rosa a Pinot Noir
Cono Sur a Chilean Merlot
Donna Paula from Argentina
Wuups one more, Tangley Oaks from Ca. (I think.)

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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by William55 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:05 pm

The Monsanto 2013 is Classico chianti is a great wine that pairs well with pasta, not sure if it comes in a 1.5 liter bottle but great wine for the price.

The best bang for your buck as far as all purpose wines is the No Fine Print Cab- $20 bottle that is very drinkable and great for all occasions. The Sebastiani Cab is also a great bang for your buck wine from the Alexander valley vineyard. MERF Cab is also a great CAB if you like a cab with a fruity and earthy flavor can find it cheap at whole foods

If you are looking for a white that won't break the bank White Haven Sauvignon Blanc is great for the white wine drinkers 2014 bottle goes for about 15-20 bucks.
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Post by Dottie57 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:14 pm

LifeIsGood wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:39 am
Bogle, of course!
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Post by tommy85 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:17 pm

Agree with Frontera! Decent price, good wine.

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Post by BarbBrooklyn » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:11 pm

Trapiche. Argentine Malbec. 8.99 for 1.5 L at some Costco liquor stores, 11.99 elsewhere in Brooklyn, NY.
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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by Pinotage » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:53 pm

Love a good....Pinotage!

Unrelated, this thread has certainly aged well.

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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by Doom&Gloom » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:11 pm

William55 wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:05 pm
The Monsanto 2013 is Classico chianti is a great wine that pairs well with pasta, not sure if it comes in a 1.5 liter bottle but great wine for the price.

The best bang for your buck as far as all purpose wines is the No Fine Print Cab- $20 bottle that is very drinkable and great for all occasions. The Sebastiani Cab is also a great bang for your buck wine from the Alexander valley vineyard. MERF Cab is also a great CAB if you like a cab with a fruity and earthy flavor can find it cheap at whole foods

If you are looking for a white that won't break the bank White Haven Sauvignon Blanc is great for the white wine drinkers 2014 bottle goes for about 15-20 bucks.
Head of marketing should be fired for naming any wine "Monsanto."

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Post by CyclingDuo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:13 pm

brainstem wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:51 pm
I need value purchasers' advice .... what is the best bet in red wine for a party that comes in the 1.5 liter bottles?

PS
the Bogle 2006 Sauvignon Blanc (~$9) is a good taste/value bet.
The OP asked about red wine, not white.

Life is way too short to drink bad wine. Never buy in 1.5 liter bottles. :twisted:
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Post by Flymore » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:14 pm

If you're a member of Costco, I'm enjoying a Kirkland Cabernet for under $10.

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Post by jthokie4 » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:29 pm

Rex Goliath cab or pinot. Excellent quality for $10 or less for 1.5L.

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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by FireHorse » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:51 pm

Jacobs Creek shiraz or shiraz cab are excellent

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Post by UpperNwGuy » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm

How on earth did this ten year old thread come back to life today? I am frankly surprised that after reading it, not realizing that most of the entries were from 2008, I found it quite up to date. I guess the good jug wines stay good year after year.
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Re: 1.5 liter wine

Post by Doom&Gloom » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:12 pm

UpperNwGuy wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:44 pm
How on earth did this ten year old thread come back to life today? I am frankly surprised that after reading it, not realizing that most of the entries were from 2008, I found it quite up to date. I guess the good jug wines stay good year after year.
LOL! I didn't notice that. I hope for OP's sake that the party was under long-long-term planning.

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Post by GoldStar » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:39 am

CyclingDuo wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:13 pm

Life is way too short to drink bad wine. Never buy in 1.5 liter bottles. :twisted:
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Post by DaftInvestor » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:57 am

Note: Original Thread is 10 years old. Vintages change in 10 years.
Also - if you want decent wine - it doesn't come in a 1.5 liter bottle. Learn to enjoy while drinking less.

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Post by LadyGeek » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:41 pm

This thread is now in the Personal Consumer Issues forum (wine).
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Post by obgraham » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:26 pm

Easy answer. Pay no attention to finding a 1.5l bottle. Just open 2 regular bottles.

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Post by jalbert » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:57 am

DaftInvestor wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:57 am
Note: Original Thread is 10 years old. Vintages change in 10 years.
Also - if you want decent wine - it doesn't come in a 1.5 liter bottle.
Not true:

https://www.sherry-lehmann.com/red-wine ... agnum-2014

Even in the normal price range of an average wine drinker many good wines are available in 1.5L bottles.
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Post by DJN » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:06 am

CyclingDuo wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:13 pm
Never buy in 1.5 liter bottles.
Big bottles age more gracefully and are just plain better, because they age at a slower pace. As a result, good producers typically bottle a portion of their best blends into large bottles.

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Post by Nissanzx1 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:23 am

I sell wine/spirits for a living. We have 1.5 for sale that are hundreds of dollars, but as a general rule they are "cheap jug" bottles. Jacobs Creek and/or CYT Frontera are cheap drinkable 1.5's, BUT your best bang per buck is Bota Box or Black Box. I can't keep Box wine at home because I'll keep drinking it all night since I can't see how much I've consumed...

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Post by DaftInvestor » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:50 pm

jalbert wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:57 am
DaftInvestor wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:57 am
Note: Original Thread is 10 years old. Vintages change in 10 years.
Also - if you want decent wine - it doesn't come in a 1.5 liter bottle.
Not true:

https://www.sherry-lehmann.com/red-wine ... agnum-2014

Even in the normal price range of an average wine drinker many good wines are available in 1.5L bottles.
Got it - didn't realize. My local store only carries cheap stuff (like some of the stuff mentioned 10 years ago) in 1.5L bottles.

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Post by bhsince87 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:09 pm

It's interesting that in the 10 years since this thread started, there has been a revolution in wine packaging.

Finding a decent wine in a box back then was almost impossible, at least in the US. Now there are plenty of options.
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Post by iamlucky13 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:14 pm

Agreed. Boxed wines can be a really good value. Because the bag doesn't let much air in, they keep longer after opening, too.

10 years is a quite vintage for a discussion thread.

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Post by Mike83 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:57 pm

A few posters have chimed-in equating quality with higher price, and sometimes this is true. Since this is a boglehead forum, let me propose for your frugal consideration the contrarian view as represented by the Reverse Wine Snob site (link follows)

https://www.reversewinesnob.com/breakin ... oxed-wines

This link cover boxed wines at the 3 Liter level (= four trad bottles) at the $18 price level! I have personally tried the Target Black Box red and found it very acceptable for informal group gatherings. I would rate it well above Yellowtail and some of the other 1.5L supermarket regulars mentioned here.

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