Amazon Prime - Value?

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by Ecorp » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:09 am

I get maybe 25% of things in one day. Rest is always 2 days. Love it

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by fourwheelcycle » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:12 pm

Hmm, our Amazon Prime account just renewed for $99 in August. I don't know why they only charged us $99, but I note they say our next renewal will be for $119 in August, 2019. Either way, since we use our Amazon Prime Rewards Visa Signature Card, which provides a 5% credit for all Amazon purchases, our Prime account has been free if we spend over $2K per year at Amazon and it will still be free after August, 2019 if we spend more than $2.4K per year.

We do as much of our shopping as possible at Amazon, since we value our cost to shop at area stores around $5 per trip, with another $5 cost if we have to return anything (vs. free if we have a problem with any Amazon Prime item). Many of our Amazon purchases are Subscribe and Save, which are typically 15% off their regular prices. We double check Amazon's pricing for most purchases. In total, we easily spend more than $2.4K per year at Amazon.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by JBTX » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:21 pm

When it exceeds $100 it passes a mental price barrier that makes it seem expensive. Objectively, we'd pay at least $50 for free shipping, $50 for prime video and $50 for the 5% card so it still easily passes the value test for us.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by GoldStar » Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 pm

GoldStar wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:32 pm
We usually receive items within the 2 days. If we notice we don't we call and complain and they give us a free month.
We also started watching the "jack ryan" series on Amazon Prime streaming TV and also use Amazon Prime music sometimes. These three things together (free 2-day shipping + Streaming Video/Music) gives us the value of the membership.
Additional benefits we get I forgot to mention:
1) As someone stated above - 5% purchases with the prime-credit-card.
2) We also shop at Whole Foods - have done so for years before Amazon bought them. Now we get discounts for being a Prime member and 5% off our groceries with the credit card. This probably pays for the membership alone.

Add in Prime-Video, Prime-Music, and free 2-day shipping - its probably the best value of anything I'm paying for.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by tesuzuki2002 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 pm

TresBelle65 wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:40 am
A decreasing number of my Amazon shipments arrive in 2 days - and this is not due to the shippers. Upon clicking to pay, I see now most items estimated to arrive in up to 5 days.

I tried to ask why using Chat or Phone, but the reps don't seem to have an answer. They appear to be reading from a script without an ability to discuss beyond scripted sound bites.

I am beginning to question the value of a Prime membership - if I am no longer receiving expedited shipping.

Are you still finding value in paying for a Prime membership?
I have never been a prime subscriber... For a while I was waiting 3-5 days to receive packages.. My last 3 orders have arrived within 2 days, and one of them came the next day. I just place my orders so I hit the amount for free standard shipping. I think their warehouse locations and shipping processes have improved enough to provide quick fulfillment of many orders.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by StevieG72 » Tue Sep 11, 2018 9:26 pm

I have a delayed package this evening.

Expected to see it when I returned home from work, it had not arrived no big deal. Checked status and it was in route to be delivered by 9pm.

Checked at 9:30 and it is now promised tomorrow or the following day.

A slight annoyance since it is a product I am out of, but still beats going to the store for everything I need.
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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by vitaflo » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:00 pm

Jablean wrote:
Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:13 pm
My teen is a gamer and wants to watch the Twitch tv channels. Needs Prime membership.
It actually doesn't. You can watch Twitch streams for free, no need for Prime. What Prime gives you is free Twitch channel subscriptions (1 per month). Subscriptions just give you access to Twitch channel emotes and sometimes allows you to use the chat (some streamers have subscriber-only chat). Without Prime you would need to pay for the sub. But anyone can watch any channel on Twitch without subbing or using the Prime membership.

That said, half the value of Prime membership for me is free Twitch Prime subs so yeah Amazon Prime has a lot of value for me (cuz I'm going to sub to my favorite channels anyway).

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by rolandtorres » Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:56 pm

It's easy enough to test Walmart's free (>$35) 2 day shipping and see if it's an Amazon issue, delivery service issue, or user shopping confusion. I hope Walmart's online inventory keeps growing because whatever they stock is usually what Amazon will price their goods at since it is the typically the cheapest.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by denovo » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:30 am

Prime has a lot of value for those who hate shopping in person.
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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by 28fe6 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:46 am

It's not worth it if you simply compare the subscription cost to the shipping savings. However it is worth it for me in the big picture, even probably in monetary terms. With a very busy schedule the convenience saves me time, stress and gasoline. At this point the idea of having to buy everything in a store, or not having the option to buy most things from Prime, is almost absurd. Yes there are other online retailers but not a comparable one. As I buy more things on Amazon I find increasing value in having a searchable order history and yearly spending summaries.

I use the prime Visa card which means the 5 percent discount pays for the subscription fees once you spend $2000-3000 per year on Amazon. I also get some $50 or so discount from my Uber visa.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by go_mets » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:05 am

tesuzuki2002 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 pm
I have never been a prime subscriber... For a while I was waiting 3-5 days to receive packages.. My last 3 orders have arrived within 2 days, and one of them came the next day. I just place my orders so I hit the amount for free standard shipping. I think their warehouse locations and shipping processes have improved enough to provide quick fulfillment of many orders.
Not Prime.
5 Amazon warehouses within 30 minutes of my home.
Still have to wait about 5-7 days for deliveries.
Standard pattern as they want to demonstrate how "useful" Prime.
They picked the wrong person, because it only proves their deliberate manipulation of slowing down the shipment itself.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by rantk81 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:29 am

Very disappointed with Prime Shipping too. I've had a long string of items that were not delivered by their "guaranteed" delivery date. And I live in Chicago... not exactly the middle of nowhere.

One item in particular was supposed to arrive in two days. Over a week after placing the order, it hadn't even left the warehouse (according to their tracking.) I complained, and the rep on the chat told me to "order it again, choose the fastest "one-day" shipping option, and they would reimburse me for the extra shipping up-charge." Well, they did reimburse me for the extra shipping charge, but they charged me twice for the original item, which took 3 more subsequent chat sessions to get them to fix. Big waste of time. Overall, not worth it to me.

The Prime streaming is nice... but I have Netflix already anyway... and I generally don't shop at Whole Foods. My prime membership is up for renewal in December. I'm on the fence about whether or not I renew.

For household items now, I generally just order from Target's website. With the RedCard, they have free shipping, and it is fast -- often faster than Amazon in my area. But Target has their own set of problems too. They don't pack things securely, and if you order big/bulky/heavy items, the heavier items will sometimes destroy other "more fragile" items in the same box. I am careful to order things that I think will "ship nicely" together, because Target hasn't worked out all the kinks with order packing/fulfillment yet.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by danaht » Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:36 am

Prime is good if you can get a discounted membership. Wait for Amazon to offer a discount - or use a coupon somewhere else to get a discount. Also, if you are eligible - student Prime memberships are a good value.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by chw » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:11 am

I generally don't see the value for our family. We do use Amazon, but usually bucket items to use standard free shipping. Generally don't need items in 2 days, and standard shipping usually arrives in 2-5 days. I guess for TV shows maybe, but already have Netflix, and can only watch one channel at a time...

I recently posted a bad experience with Walmart.com (purchase from a 3rd party seller). I gave them a try again for some general household items, as well as kitchen pantry type items. Surprisingly not only did they have some of the items that Amazon didn't have, but all of the items I was planning to get from Amazon at the same time were priced 15-20% lower than Amazon. The order arrived in 3 days, and shipping was free for an order over $35.

In general, I find Amazon pricing to be fair, but in some cases if you aren't checking pricing against other retailers, you may be overpaying. I find Amazon has had upward price creep over the past 2-3 years, and generally only use Amazon for items that aren't easily found at our local retailers that we frequent.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by N1CKV » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:35 am

This thread reminded me, I just went and set a reminder on the account to notify me before the next renewal. I plan to cancel.
I also am seeing way less items available in 2 days, I end up buying a lot of small stuff that I could either skip or wait to order, I do not use Prime Video, I rarely use Prime Music and I don't see any real value in anything else offered.
I have met a lot of people that claim to love money, but they also seem to be the same people that are in the biggest hurry to get rid of it.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by 28fe6 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:54 am

I recently found that an item I paid $16 for is available at Lowes for $13. I used to always find that things were more expensive in stores, but the opposite is getting more common.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by tesuzuki2002 » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:19 pm

go_mets wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:05 am
tesuzuki2002 wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:03 pm
I have never been a prime subscriber... For a while I was waiting 3-5 days to receive packages.. My last 3 orders have arrived within 2 days, and one of them came the next day. I just place my orders so I hit the amount for free standard shipping. I think their warehouse locations and shipping processes have improved enough to provide quick fulfillment of many orders.
Not Prime.
5 Amazon warehouses within 30 minutes of my home.
Still have to wait about 5-7 days for deliveries.
Standard pattern as they want to demonstrate how "useful" Prime.
They picked the wrong person, because it only proves their deliberate manipulation of slowing down the shipment itself.

.
HAHA True! I think some how I've just been getting lucky... I know usually they are just holding it up... wanting me to see value in paying for prime for faster service.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by JupiterJones » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:47 am

GoldStar wrote:
Tue Sep 11, 2018 12:30 pm
Additional benefits we get I forgot to mention:
1) As someone stated above - 5% purchases with the prime-credit-card.
To be fair, if you use the Prime Credit Card but don't actually subscribe to Prime, you still get 3% cash-back on Amazon and Whole Foods purchases.

So the Prime subscription benefit is really just that extra 2%.

Which is still a nice perk, and worth taking into account when calculating value. Still, someone would have to spend $6,000 a year at Amazon and Whole Foods to break even on the cost of Prime if that extra 2% was all they were in it for.

(As an aside, the Prime Card is actually a pretty nice card in and of itself. No annual fee. 1-2% cash-back on non-Amazon/WF purchases. No foreign transaction fees. Built-in car rental insurance, etc.)
Stay on target...

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by michaeljc70 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:50 am

With the price increase, I am considering dropping it. I don't use Prime Video or any of the other features other than shipping. I don't shop at Whole Foods. I also believe the ability to order and get things quickly 1) make me shop around less and 2) buy things I don't really need. If I really need something I can wait a week or go to a local store if it is an emergency.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by Broken Man 1999 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:39 pm

Costco has stepped up their game. I ordered some items online yesterday after noon. Received them about 5:30PM today. On their website they offered two-day shipping if order placed by noon. So they really turned that order around quickly.

That was PDQ!

I'm near two Amazon warehouses, so I'm not having late shipment for Prime items. Sometimes a marketplace order supposedly offering Prime shipping arrives a day late.

Overall, I am still happy with Amazon Prime. Works for me. After I finish watching a couple of series last episodes on Netflix, I will most likely drop Netflix for awhile. I can't watch enough stuff to justify having Amazon Prime AND Netflix.

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Re: Amazon Prime - Value?

Post by NextMil » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:01 am

I am literally on the phone right now, because I thought this thread was crazy, but prime items are now taking 5-7 days as well. This is baloney. Will let you know what I hear.

ETA: Apparently they are blaming fulfillment center in hurricane area. Will be interesting to see if this resolves in a few weeks.

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