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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:02 pm

Fitch wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:43 pm
Did you keep track of expenses? I'm curious how much since you stayed in so many hotels and had to eat in a bunch of restaurants.
I haven't got the grand total yet. I charged virtually everything.
It was not a cheap trip, but it was much less than a 170 day cruise or OAT tour would have cost.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Austintatious » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:16 pm

I followed the entire journey via the daily messages and photos Jazztonight faithfully provided. I have for several years, now, been putting in a 3-4 mile walk at a brisk pace on most days. For an older guy (same age as Jazztonight), I consider myself to be in reasonably good physical condition BUT what Jazztonight has accomplished is a totally different and most remarkable thing. First, walking 20-30 miles in a day is infinitely harder on the body. And doing the same thing day after day in all kinds of weather is again something completely different that genuinely punishes the body. It's a truly remarkable physical accomplishment. All that said, I have wondered if maintaining the mental and emotional discipline to keep going day after day, not only having to deal with the occasional hardship or disappointment but facing the grind of just putting one foot in front of the other, day after day, might actually have been the more difficult task. Anyway, you are an Ironman, Jazztonight! Congratulations!

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by dodecahedron » Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:47 pm

In an interesting coincidence, a couple days before the OP posted, I ran across a book description that fascinated me and requested it via interlibrary loan--I just got notified today that it arrived. It may interest others.

Grandma Gatewood's Walk: The Inspiring Story of the Woman Who Saved the Appalachian Trail

Grandma Gatewood was an amazing woman--she was the first woman to thru-hike the entire Appalachian trail. And she was also the first person (man or woman) to thru-hike it twice and then three times. She was 67 her first time. Later (in her 70s) she hiked the entire Oregon trail, starting in Missouri. Later helped to blaze six miles of a new trail in Ohio. She hiked up to her death at 84.

And she did this back in the 1950s and 1960s, wearing jeans and cheap canvas tennis shoes (remember "Keds"?) and with minimal gear: a small drawstring sack with a shower curtain (to protect from ground wetness), a heavy coat (to use as a blanket at night, a pocket knife, a flashlight, and a few snacks. Barely any money--she had learned to live in the wilderness on a shoestring after fleeing an abusive husband and her only income was a $30/month Social Security check. And the trail was neglected and much more poorly maintained back then than it is now.

Her pioneering trailblazing efforts got publicity which inspired others. The publicity led to better trail maintenance.

Looking forward to reading the OP's book when it comes out, but in the meantime, this one looks good for a vicarious "armchair hiker" like me. (I wouldn't mind getting inspired to do a little more local walking but not looking for anything epic like the OP or Grandma Gatewood.)

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by BogleBike » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:06 pm

Jazztonight, that you don't feel different seems like a very useful data point. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by DoTheMath » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:18 pm

Well done! I'm impressed. I hope you feel a great sense of satisfaction for your accomplishment.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by donall » Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:36 pm

Very inspirational. I’m glad you are sharing your experiences. Looking forward to the book.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by LadyGeek » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:07 pm

Wow, unbelievable. :beer

FYI - Jazztonight started the thread Pull-ups and Push-ups in 2013. Nearly 5 years later, it's still going strong.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Bajadoc » Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:13 pm

Wow, what an accomplishment. Your story is very inspirational and I look forward to reading more about it. You were always doing something interesting but this one takes the cake. Big props from your old pal Richard (TOR-67).

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by One Ping » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:42 pm

Jazztonight wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:28 pm
Hello to my fellow Bogleheads!

I just returned last week from a Coast-to-Coast walk, Pacific to the Atlantic. I succeeded and survived.
Thanks, Jazztonight! Just finished reading the blog ... kept me up very late. :) It was fascinating to me.

While not quite as, uh-hem, 'experienced' as you, you've inspired me to set some of my own (much less ambitious goals) and get to it!

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Sandtrap » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:44 pm

Welcome back, Robert.
Home, and to the "forum".
Glad you returned safe.
Aloha
jim :D

ps: please announce when the book comes out on your exploits. :D

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by likegarden » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:24 pm

Congratulations! You might consider that you wore down parts of your body most involved in this long walk. You might want to spare those parts further stress in the future. I am 78, and my doctor just told me that my right leg is more worn because I am right handed, so wear counts.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Toons » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:30 pm

Oh My Goodness...
I salute You.... :happy
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Freefun » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:54 pm

Congrats! I admire your dedication.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by segfault » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:55 pm

I don’t know the OP from Adam, and this has nothing to do with my investments, but reading about this accomplishment put a much-needed smile on my face. Good on you!

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by ClaycordJCA » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 am

Congratulations and welcome home. Looking forward to reading the blog.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by JPH » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:43 am

You mean you actually walked upright on the ground? That's a great accomplishment. I congratulate you.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by pondering » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:00 am

Glad you made the journey.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Miriam2 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:14 pm

Jazztonight wrote: I don't know if age has much to do with it. Once retired, we have much more control over how we spend our time; or at least we should. I don't think I missed much by not sitting at my desk for those 170 days. I also avoided the news.
I assume your investments were on autopilot - I guess auto-ped :wink: - but didn't you wonder about your accounts even a little? You know, the market's been up and down, the yield curve is flattening, international equities are limp, valuations are high . . . :happy

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:31 pm

JPH wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:43 am
You mean you actually walked upright on the ground? That's a great accomplishment. I congratulate you.
Thanks! Yes, I walked upright, never crawled or cycled or jogged. On the actual ground.

As I've said many times, walking coast-to-coast is not about walking.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:32 pm

pondering wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:00 am
Glad you made the journey.
It's a one-time thing. For me, anyway.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:37 pm

Miriam2 wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:14 pm
Jazztonight wrote: I don't know if age has much to do with it. Once retired, we have much more control over how we spend our time; or at least we should. I don't think I missed much by not sitting at my desk for those 170 days. I also avoided the news.
I assume your investments were on autopilot - I guess auto-ped :wink: - but didn't you wonder about your accounts even a little? You know, the market's been up and down, the yield curve is flattening, international equities are limp, valuations are high . . . :happy
I can't remember thinking much about my investments, and certainly I didn't worry about them. Since finding my sweet-spot allocation (it happens to be 40/60), I stopped obsessing. And worrying doesn't help much of anything.

Really, a journey such as this is a single-minded effort: Where am I going to sleep tonight; what am I going to eat today? Do I have sufficient water? Can I deal with the heat, cold, rain, traffic, dogs, flies, hills. What am I going to write about tonight in my blog post. That sort of thing.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:38 pm

ClaycordJCA wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 am
Congratulations and welcome home. Looking forward to reading the blog.
I live in Oakland, and it is good to be home.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:39 pm

pondering wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:00 am
Glad you made the journey.
Thanks! Me too.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:40 pm

Sandtrap wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:44 pm
Welcome back, Robert.
Home, and to the "forum".
Glad you returned safe.
Aloha
jim :D

ps: please announce when the book comes out on your exploits. :D
Mahalo, Jim!
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:42 pm

One Ping wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:42 pm
Jazztonight wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:28 pm
Hello to my fellow Bogleheads!

I just returned last week from a Coast-to-Coast walk, Pacific to the Atlantic. I succeeded and survived.
Thanks, Jazztonight! Just finished reading the blog ... kept me up very late. :) It was fascinating to me.

While not quite as, uh-hem, 'experienced' as you, you've inspired me to set some of my own (much less ambitious goals) and get to it!
One Ping.
Ping, it was certainly ambitious, and probably unnecessarily so. The other goals I've been setting for myself are more "reasonable." Please PM me if you'd like to discuss goal-setting for our later years. It's a subject I'm very interested in.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:38 pm

Fitch wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:43 pm
Did you keep track of expenses? I'm curious how much since you stayed in so many hotels and had to eat in a bunch of restaurants.
I was gone 170+ days. Sometimes I ate in real restaurants, but my dietary needs were/are not fancy. Most motels provided breakfast (cereal & yogurt; eggs & toast, muffins), and often I was able to make lunch from the offerings (egg sandwich; yogurt & fruit). A can of Progresso soup at the Dollar store was ~$2; a pack of Swiss cheese, a loaf of bread; packs of tuna; boxes of protein bars; peanuts, raisins; Egg McMuffins (hold the meat); snacks & treats. A restaurant meal might be the 55+ omelet & pancakes at IHOP, or the fish sandwich combo at a fast food place. I looked for protein, and my body turned just about everything into energy.

At some point I might add up my journey-related expenses. I'd estimate somewhere between $12-15K including camping equipment, food, lodging, transportation & shipping.
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Post by sschullo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:00 pm

Congrats! Although nothing like your remarkable story, I have a friend who ran 26 straight L.A. Marathons and my niece who rode the AIDS ride from SF to LA.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by One Ping » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:23 pm

Jazztonight wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:42 pm
One Ping wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:42 pm
Thanks, Jazztonight! Just finished reading the blog ... kept me up very late. :) It was fascinating to me.

While not quite as, uh-hem, 'experienced' as you, you've inspired me to set some of my own (much less ambitious goals) and get to it!
One Ping.
Ping, it was certainly ambitious, and probably unnecessarily so. The other goals I've been setting for myself are more "reasonable." Please PM me if you'd like to discuss goal-setting for our later years. It's a subject I'm very interested in.
Thanks! PM sent.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:20 pm

Nicolas wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:15 pm
Here's yesterday's Washington Post article about a guy who just completed a walk from Patagonia to Alaska, almost the entire length of the western hemisphere, 14,481 miles along the Pan-American highway. He slept in drainage pipes and fought a grizzly bear.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/ ... mile-hike/
Amazing! All I had to deal with were dogs, ants, and bedbugs 8-)
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by dodecahedron » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:49 pm

Jazztonight wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:31 pm
As I've said many times, walking coast-to-coast is not about walking.
If it is not about walking, what *is* it about? Purging demons? Meditation? Achieving a transcendent state? Processing the sensory reality of our country as experienced from its road system traveled at pedestrian pace? A spiritual reawakening? (As a lifelong walking enthusiast--though with a less bodacious itinerary than yours, I could imagine each of these possibilities.)

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by ClaycordJCA » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:59 pm

Jazztonight wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:38 pm
ClaycordJCA wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:37 am
Congratulations and welcome home. Looking forward to reading the blog.
I live in Oakland, and it is good to be home.
I grew up in Montclair and am quite familiar with your locale. I am known to still take a stroll around the lake from time to time.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:17 am

dodecahedron wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:49 pm
Jazztonight wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:31 pm
As I've said many times, walking coast-to-coast is not about walking.
If it is not about walking, what *is* it about? Purging demons? Meditation? Achieving a transcendent state? Processing the sensory reality of our country as experienced from its road system traveled at pedestrian pace? A spiritual reawakening? (As a lifelong walking enthusiast--though with a less bodacious itinerary than yours, I could imagine each of these possibilities.)
I can imagine all of your suggestions too! In short, however, this journey was about overcoming obstacles.
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by LiterallyIronic » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:19 am

That is an amazing and inspirational story!

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by bowtie » Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:43 pm

:happy
I'm so happy for you.
How wonderful in SO many ways!
I want to say more but I'm sort of speechless ... in a stunned state of appreciation for your trip and the fact that you have shared it with us and will be sharing even more in your book. Thank you!!
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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Bylo Selhi » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:36 am

Jazztonight wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:28 pm
I just returned last week from a Coast-to-Coast walk, Pacific to the Atlantic. I succeeded and survived.
Wow! And congratulations!

I just completed a somewhat shorter coast-to-coast walk in June, Alfred Wainwright's classic Coast to Coast across England. That was a rather grueling ~200 miles over a fortnight. I can only imagine how much more challenging a continental C2C must be.

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Re: Walking Coast-to-Coast

Post by Jazztonight » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:30 pm

Bylo Selhi wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:36 am
Jazztonight wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:28 pm
I just returned last week from a Coast-to-Coast walk, Pacific to the Atlantic. I succeeded and survived.
Wow! And congratulations!

I just completed a somewhat shorter coast-to-coast walk in June, Alfred Wainwright's classic Coast to Coast across England. That was a rather grueling ~200 miles over a fortnight. I can only imagine how much more challenging a continental C2C must be.
I've always wanted to do the walk you just completed! (And a fortnight sounds better than 170 days 8-) )
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