etf fee arbitrage
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etf fee arbitrage
Naive, purely theoretical question, but one I'm curious about. Let's say I find an ETF with a relatively short constituent list. I then buy all the individual stocks at the same weights in a commission-free brokerage like Robinhood, and short the ETF for an equal dollar amount. Could I essentially collect the expense ratio as arbitrage profits?
Re: etf fee arbitrage
You’ll pay a borrowing fee for borrowing and shorting the shares, much more than the etf’s expense ratio.
Also, you won’t always know or be able to replicate the precise ratio of holdings in the fund either.
I don’t recommend trying this. Far easier to just buy a money market fund for a “guaranteed” small rate of return.
Edit: Another reason not to do this is, short positions can be closed outside your control if the original owner of the shares wants to sell their position.
Also, you won’t always know or be able to replicate the precise ratio of holdings in the fund either.
I don’t recommend trying this. Far easier to just buy a money market fund for a “guaranteed” small rate of return.
Edit: Another reason not to do this is, short positions can be closed outside your control if the original owner of the shares wants to sell their position.
Re: etf fee arbitrage
Don't be so mild. That borrowing fee will likely be two orders of magnitude higher than the ER.
A useful razor: anyone asking about speculative strategies on Bogleheads.org has no business using them.
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Re: etf fee arbitrage
Rest assured I had no intent of actually doing this, just wanted to know what the pitfall was. Thanks for the responses.
I didn't realize all stocks had borrowing fees - I thought it was only "hard to borrow" stocks. What's a typical fee?
I didn't realize all stocks had borrowing fees - I thought it was only "hard to borrow" stocks. What's a typical fee?
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Re: etf fee arbitra
You’d have to lookup the borrow fee first, or find a broker that doesn’t charge it for GC shorts. This would only be attractive in absolute dollars levered up, and I’m assuming there are still hidden risks we haven’t thought of yet.