Hello everyone; I'm new here.
I'm interested in buying into VTI and likely another fund or two but...
but I can't make any sense out of the data I see when I look at the Morningstar (or any other) page;
and of course there are no offices or face to face to ask questions through.
The people on the 800# seem informed but I really hate doing anything important verbally.
I want to see headings and numbers on paper; or at least on a screen.
So I'm here hoping one or another of you can help and yes I'm sure this question has come up before
and I have looked for similar threads but none of them actually answer the question I have (or what that OP asked tbh).
It's disappointing.
When I look at a regular broker holding report I can see what my cost is, the appreciation accumulated in the period,
what the unrealized cap gains are, the dividends paid in the period, etc. etc etc and all neatly in a line.
What I'd love to see is that sort of clear data for the ETF's and MF's and how/where to find it.
The same way I can find it for any of the individual companies held within the ETF.
Assuming no one is offering up their own data (I sure wouldn't) what about a pro-forma or prototype?
Surely it exists.
Thanks.
how to glean ETF information
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Re: how to glean ETF information
Welcome to the forum .
You can't have a cost basis, appreciation, unrealized gains or dividends unless you have bought the fund or ETF. Morningstar does not automatically know if you bought a fund or ETF, or how much you bought, or when.
You can get price history for VTI under the "chart" tab, use the "custom" function to show a start date.
You can get information on distributions for VTI for the last 4 years under the "distributions" tab.
You can get performance data for VTI, total return, for up to 15 years under the "performance" tab.
Once you have bought a fund or ETF the fund company furnishes monthly or quarterly reports on what you have bought, and on-line data including information such as cost basis, gains, personal performance, etc.
What fund or ETF information do you want that you can't find on Morningstar?
If you indicate what specifically you want to know the maybe I can help you learn how to find it.
What ETF or fund information do you want but can't find on Morningstar?Remainderman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:48 pm Hello everyone; I'm new here.
I'm interested in buying into VTI and likely another fund or two but...
but I can't make any sense out of the data I see when I look at the Morningstar (or any other) page;
and of course there are no offices or face to face to ask questions through.
The people on the 800# seem informed but I really hate doing anything important verbally.
I want to see headings and numbers on paper; or at least on a screen.
So I'm here hoping one or another of you can help and yes I'm sure this question has come up before
and I have looked for similar threads but none of them actually answer the question I have (or what that OP asked tbh).
It's disappointing.
When I look at a regular broker holding report I can see what my cost is, the appreciation accumulated in the period,
what the unrealized cap gains are, the dividends paid in the period, etc. etc etc and all neatly in a line.
What I'd love to see is that sort of clear data for the ETF's and MF's and how/where to find it.
The same way I can find it for any of the individual companies held within the ETF.
Assuming no one is offering up their own data (I sure wouldn't) what about a pro-forma or prototype?
Surely it exists.
Thanks.
You can't have a cost basis, appreciation, unrealized gains or dividends unless you have bought the fund or ETF. Morningstar does not automatically know if you bought a fund or ETF, or how much you bought, or when.
You can get price history for VTI under the "chart" tab, use the "custom" function to show a start date.
You can get information on distributions for VTI for the last 4 years under the "distributions" tab.
You can get performance data for VTI, total return, for up to 15 years under the "performance" tab.
Once you have bought a fund or ETF the fund company furnishes monthly or quarterly reports on what you have bought, and on-line data including information such as cost basis, gains, personal performance, etc.
What fund or ETF information do you want that you can't find on Morningstar?
If you indicate what specifically you want to know the maybe I can help you learn how to find it.
Re: how to glean ETF information
Not to rain on your parade, but the information referenced above is not that useful.Remainderman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:48 pm When I look at a regular broker holding report I can see what my cost is, the appreciation accumulated in the period,
what the unrealized cap gains are, the dividends paid in the period, etc. etc etc and all neatly in a line.
What I'd love to see is that sort of clear data for the ETF's and MF's and how/where to find it.
The same way I can find it for any of the individual companies held within the ETF.
Unrealized cap gains is semi-useful for mutual funds and useless for ETFs. It is buried in the supplemental annual report. That being said unless you are willing to do some serious modeling work on future market movements and cash inflows / outflows from the mutual funds it is not going to tell you much. When I was a insider for a mutual fund accounting department the information was considered to be of speculative quality.
For dividends, past information is not going to do you much good. Funds by law can't give much in the way of forward looking numbers. What you should do is go to the index provider, CRSP in this case, and see what they have to say. They tend to do a better job in providing forward numbers.
Former brokerage operations & mutual fund accountant. I hate risk, which is why I study and embrace it.
Re: how to glean ETF information
I actually did not understand the original post at all, so I suspect that if they called some kind of 800-number that the person on the other end did not understand what they were trying to achieve.
What is data? What is a prototype?
Who is your brokerage or financial institution?
"When I look at a regular broker holding report I can see what my cost is, the appreciation accumulated in the period,
what the unrealized cap gains are, the dividends paid in the period, etc. etc etc and all neatly in a line."
Your broker will give you that exact information for any ETFs that you have purchased at your broker.
What is data? What is a prototype?
Who is your brokerage or financial institution?
"When I look at a regular broker holding report I can see what my cost is, the appreciation accumulated in the period,
what the unrealized cap gains are, the dividends paid in the period, etc. etc etc and all neatly in a line."
Your broker will give you that exact information for any ETFs that you have purchased at your broker.
Re: how to glean ETF information
Remainderman, welcome to the forum. I guess we are all a bit confused on exactly what information you are looking for.
Here is information of VTI. What broker are you asking about this ETF? I guess you do not own VTI yet, and the purchase is dependent on some specific information, is that right?
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... irect=true
What do you own now?
Paul
Here is information of VTI. What broker are you asking about this ETF? I guess you do not own VTI yet, and the purchase is dependent on some specific information, is that right?
https://personal.vanguard.com/us/funds/ ... irect=true
What do you own now?
Paul
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