Nate79 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:15 pm
sandramjet wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:04 pm
Nate79 wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:01 pm
Let's throw some cold water on the title of this thread. The # of electric vehicles is still small potatoes, miniscule amount compared to number of gasoline/diesel vehicles sold in the US. Here is a picture of the 2017 H1 sales. All EV's combined for the 6 months was a little more than a month of the # of F150's sold by Ford. Even if the Model 3 is a huge hit I think people forget the true size of the auto market, especially trucks.
EV's for the foreseeable future are really miniscule sales # in the entire auto market.
https://www.fleetcarma.com/electric-veh ... ar-update/
Title seems accurate to me. Says the number is growing. Doesn't say anything about it being a "majority".
I should have said the objective/question of the thread. The OP mentioned proliferation of EV's causing issues to the electric grid. I'm just pointing out that EV sales compared to total vehicles sales is miniscule. There is no proliferation. It's barely registers in the car market.
While it is possible that the electric grid can't handle the small number of EV's that are being sold there is often an exaggeration of # of EV's that are actually being sold. If the electric grid can't handle the small number of EV's being sold today I can't even image what will happen if the sales reach a meaningful number.
That's easy, it will get fixed.
The technology exists, the costs are manageable -- to some extent they represent repair and replacement to a grid which will have to do that anyways.
We are on the cusp of a turn. I expect there will be many periods of time when nothing seems to be happening, or we are even going retrograde.
But watch the 2030s. When industrial civilization decides to do something, it does. America in particular is given to that.
I am thinking in 1944 that US aircraft production, alone, was greater than the total size of world civilian and military air fleets in 1939. US shipping output by 1944 must have exceeded that of the whole world in 1937, say?
EVs are a disruptive technology, and we need them. Given fuel cell vehicles have not delivered, EVs are on the path to the world we have to get to.
And so we will. I expect lots of teeth gnashing, prevarication, objection that it is unfair & unjust & discriminatory and that [insert name of country] is cheating so we have no obligation, etc. etc. etc.
But human beings are made to rally to great causes. Sometimes that is very destructive, and sometimes it is very creative. But it is human beings organized into anything we would recognize as civilizations.
This is a great cause.