Bill Gros's Dec. 2012 Outlook

[lks]

Educational question only. One of his Pics is Non-Dollar Emerging- Market Stocks. Doe's that mean currency un-hedged? Is Vanguard's hedged?

[wwross]

Can you rephrase? The language is a little too obscure for me. Thanks.

[lks]

Can you rephrase? The language is a little too obscure for me. Thanks.

He said, invest in "Non-Dollar Emerging-Market Stocks". What are they?

[STC]

He either means companies that earn mostly in currencies other then the dollar. Or to own emerging markets stocks in non-dollar terms (i.e. owning emerging market fund denominated in Euro's)

Sounds like a bet to me. He should stick to making me money with his total return fund. Every time I hear him talk I feel like selling it for TBM...

[nisiprius]

I actually believe it is possible that he said "stocks" and meant to say "bonds." As simple as that. He says the list is from a "TIME Magazine article by Rana Foroohar." That must be Why Stocks Are Dead (And Bonds Are Deader), and I can't read the relevant parts--maybe someone with a subscription can check. However, Paul Farrell refers to it and makes this utterly confusing statement--boldface is mine:

Their stock picks include: commodities, investment protected bond, high-grade munis and non-dollar denominated emerging countries. Their pans are banks and financial stocks, high-yield bonds and long bonds in big developed countries like the U.S., U.K. and Germany.

In context, I think that means non-dollar denominated emerging countries' bonds... as opposed to the dollar-denominated emerging markets bonds that will comprise the Vanguard Emerging Markets bond fund, announced but not launched.

[ziszew]

I actually believe it is possible that he said "stocks" and meant to say "bonds." As simple as that. <--snip--> In context, I think that means non-dollar denominated emerging countries' bonds... as opposed to the dollar-denominated emerging markets bonds that will comprise the Vanguard Emerging Markets bond fund, announced but not launched.

That was my take; my other thought was maybe he meant "not-ADR"?

[lks]

I actually believe it is possible that he said "stocks" and meant to say "bonds." As simple as that. <--snip--> In context, I think that means non-dollar denominated emerging countries' bonds... as opposed to the dollar-denominated emerging markets bonds that will comprise the Vanguard Emerging Markets bond fund, announced but not launched.

That was my take; my other thought was maybe he meant "not-ADR"?

Found an article that said it was: MSCI Emerging Market Currency- Hedged Equity Fund (DBEM).