Celebrating the Fourth of July

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Celebrating the Fourth of July

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Hello Fellow Bogleheads, wanted to let you know that I am proudly celebrating the birth of our country, July 4th, 1776. This was the day when the Continental Congress issued the Declaration of Independence. Hopefully I will be joined by countless others in celebrating the birth of our great nation.
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Hear, hear! Huzzah! Hip hip hooray! Bottle rocket emoji.
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Alas, our collective memory doesn't quite hold the ins and outs. Decades after the event, there was a curious exchange of letters between Jefferson, Adams, McKean, Gerry and others as to the events of that day. It seems they could not agree on what happened and they were all there. Below are a few articles about it, but some of the highlights are that it was not unanimous on the 2nd or the 4th; NY's instructions were to vote no; their approval was only received in Philadelphia on July 15; most signatures were added later, some as late as August, one perhaps as late as 1781 and different copies had different signatures. The Declaration which was printed, but was not the engrossed copy, on July 4 only had two signatures: John Hancock's and Charles Thomson's. The copy at the National Archives is an engrossed copy from July 19th. (While McKean was there his signature was not added until later, perhaps as late as 1781.) And so, like Patrick Henry's Liberty or Death Speech, or that Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown was the last battle of the Revolutionary War, the collective memory might not be what precisely happened.

That in no way diminishes the sacrifice they made when the outcome was doubtful. For further insight:

https://allthingsliberty.com/2017/10/de ... s-history/

https://allthingsliberty.com/2014/07/10 ... h-of-july/
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nedsaid wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:45 am Hello Fellow Bogleheads, wanted to let you know that I am proudly celebrating the birth of our country, July 4th, 1776. This was the day when the Continental Congress issued the Declaration of Independence. Hopefully I will be joined by countless others in celebrating the birth of our great nation.
Happy Birthday USA :)

Thanks for posting, nedsaid!
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Happy birthday USA. The last best hope of mankind.
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This thread is now in the US Chapters Bogleheads Community forum (US holiday).

Independence Hall is local to me (Philadelphia).

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LadyGeek wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:10 am This thread is now in the US Chapters Bogleheads Community forum (US holiday).

Independence Hall is local to me (Philadelphia).

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Happy Birthday America. The Great experiment of Democracy, Freedom and Capitalism is still young, but has provided great opportunity for those who participate in it. It is constantly changing and evolving. Let us continue to strive to improve this Republic and not destroy her goal of opportunity for all as the Land of the Free.
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God bless America. Hope and Freedom for all!
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nedsaid wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:45 am Hello Fellow Bogleheads, wanted to let you know that I am proudly celebrating the birth of our country, July 4th, 1776. This was the day when the Continental Congress issued the Declaration of Independence. Hopefully I will be joined by countless others in celebrating the birth of our great nation.
How is this an actionable post?

lol, j/k

Have a safe holiday,
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I'm having a great time celebrating the holiday today too!
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Happy 4th of July to everyone!

America is the greatest place on earth to live.

Proud to be an American!

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JonnyB wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:17 pm Frederick Douglass: "What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July?"
The National Constitution Center has a podcast that discusses this speech -- https://constitutioncenter.org/debate/podcasts. Just listened to it this morning.
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Happy Independence Day!

It's nice to see that there are still people on the internet who love this wonderful country that we call America, and that I proudly call home.

We've preserved and tended our democracy and our precious liberty for 244 years, and have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of our founders as a result!

May our best days be ever in the future.
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We are fortunate to live in the great country on the PLANET!

I thank our armed forces every single day for their patriotism and courage to keep us that way!

God bless America!
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Thank you Nedsaid for posting this! I’m so proud to say I’m an American and I hope our amazing country continues to shine as a light of democracy and capitalism!!!
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JonnyB wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:17 pm Frederick Douglass: "What, to the American slave, is your 4th of July?"
Similarly, Benjamin Banneker corresponded directly with Jefferson about the Declaration of Independence and slavery in 1791. (https://founders.archives.gov/documents ... 22-02-0049)
Jefferson had recommended Banneker as a surveyor to Ellicott, who was planning the "new Federal city" (what is now Washington DC) and was familiar with Banneker's many talents. Jefferson forwarded Banneker's courageous letter (and the almanac prepared by Banneker) to his friend the Marquis de Condorcet in Paris who was a proponent of gender and racial equality.

Best wishes to all on this day of celebration of our nation's independence and its fundamental significance to the ongoing struggle for progress in the world.
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