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[Title was "Half Milestone Hit!" --admin LadyGeek]
Since I cannot share the delight with my neighbors or family, I thought I'd share here.
My wife (28) and I (35) just hit the half point of a major milestone. I looked at our retirement spreadsheets/personal capital dashboard and saw that we've now crossed over the $500,000 threshold! I know that for some of you this isn't that big of a deal, but we all have to start from somewhere
For those interested, this includes his/her 401K, T-IRA, Roth, Pension payout (as lump sum if taken today)[cashed out pension] and home equity.
Happy Saving!
- Working
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ORIGINAL (06/03/14): Crossed over $500,000
UPDATE #1 (09/26/14): Hit $585,000 [Huge increase in home value and constant dumping into IRA & 401K]
UPDATE #2 (01/16/15): Hit $620,000 [Moved 'south' for a new job. Renting out the fixer-upper and big increase in pay and 401K match]
UPDATE #3 (11/11/15): Hit $642,330 Plugging away towards early retirement. Hopefully in another 10 years.
UPDATE #4 (11/15/16): Hit $706,503. Sold the house for a nice profit ($180,000). Decided to focus on my career and really work hard this past year. I got rewarded with a ~$20,000 raise when I approached management with other offers. I now have to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym!!
UPDATE #5 (03/03/17): Hit $766,395. Still need to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym!
UPDATE #6 (06/01/17): Hit $847,388. (Including old pension lump sum) Still need to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym (There's a theme here)! Amazing how making the decision to move affected my NW. In two years since we moved we've almost increased our savings by $200,000.
UPDATE #7 (04/16/18): Arrived at $996,729. My second son was recently born and it got me thinking about college, so I looked at my NW and decided to update this post. Almost in the 2 comma club Looking forward to some sleep as well.
UPDATE #8 (05/09/18): Crossed into the "2 comma club"!!!! Sitting around $1,022,500.00 as of right now. Pretty amazing that in 4 years we've been able to double our initial milestone mark Still looking for that allusive sleep however.
UPDATE #9 (12/18/20) [I'm now 42 and my wife is 35] : $1,536,114. Two kids in (5.5 and 2.5). A new house purchase and a major renovation have been ongoing since 2019. Amazon moved to the area and really drove up the home prices, which has really helped our value a lot [The ONLY reason we've seen a $500K increase in NW in 2 years. Previously took 4 to generate that increase]. Company has given me many merit bonuses and increased their 401K match by 4% - now 10% matching. My (company standard) 1.5% yearly raises, which were previously laughable, are now starting to add up to fund our yearly vacations. Looks like we'll have to save the trip for next year due to COVID. Life is good!
UPDATE #10 (04/25/21) Almost out of this COVID stuff... thought I'd check up on the NW. It's now still at $1,702,598. Kids/family is doing well. We ALL are really looking forward to going back to our normal lives.
UPDATE #11 (11/26/21) I got my booster a little bit ago and my oldest son got his first shot. Feeling better and better about what is happening is this crazy world Since the last post, I've switched my job to another project. I am now working from home and really enjoying it, although working from home not going out has really added a lot to my waistline. I had some extra space in the basement converted to a small gym, so now I just need to get the equipment. On the financial front our Networth rose to 1,950,565.91.
UPDATE #12 (03/16/23) I got another booster, Moderna about a year ago, and it knocked me out for about 3 days. I'm still working from home and as much as I would have liked to workout during the day I haven't been. Instead I've been focusing on work and really pushing forward with learning new technologies and applying them to our project. Due to this, I got a really nice raise this year and I'm making close to 270K, which allows my wife to be able to focus on the kids and things that are needed around the house. We've decided to put both kids back into public school, instead of private, so that'll be a nice savings as well. As much as I wanted to retire early I just don't think its possible for me anymore. I LOVE what I'm doing and I cannot imagine giving it up - who would have thought!
UPDATE #13 (12/21/23) I just finished up another year at my company and am waiting on our yearly compensating increase. Last year it was healthy, but given the rate of inflation was not enough.. Oh well, I'm not here to complain This year I focused on 'me' and losing some of the weight I had gained. I did a great job and lost over 25 LBS and feel really great. Im focused now on how I maintain this and do that through my diet. The exercising was a lot of fun (esp the high after) but def. took away from my - still remote - job. Anyways lets talk numbers!! Currently sitting at 2.21M in all accounts (NOT including kids 529 which we opened last year for the tax benefits - $15K funded so far). What makes this post put a smile on my face is that its been around 10 years now from my original post. Going from $500K to $2.2MM in 10 years is something I would have NEVER thought possible. Originally I wanted to be done working by 50 which is NOW only 5 years away. The more I think about it, the more I feel as though I'll continue to work. It gives me purpose, lines my wallet and pumps up the kids 529 . Lets see what the next 10 have to offer!!!!
UPDATE #14 (07/10/24) I (now 46) am writing this at my parents vacation home while I work remotely and my wife (now 38) and kids enjoy what the area has to offer for the month. In preparation for the summer we purchased a new-to-us boat and have been enjoying it for a nice cruise during the evenings and the kids are loving tubing/skiing/knee boarding,etc. I'm NOT loving the non-ethanol gas prices however I'm slowly gaining some of the weight back that I've lost over the past year due to indulging in the food and drink of "summer" life. Once I get back home, I'll settle back into my workout routine.
As for the numbers, we're looking at $2,682,948 which accounts for the kids 529, retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, bonuses (merit and time charged to client), and home equity (personal capital net worth). This past year I was able to take advantage of our billable rate bonus and earned an extra 10K and received a 4% increase for our annual raise. I dont want to sound 'out-of-touch', but 4% doesnt really cover anything these days, but I guess it's better than what others have reported. Total compensation is $370,559.82 according to my spreadsheets. I have to admit, my company is one of the best companies I could have ever found (and I owe that to my old college roommate)
The current project I am on is on a one year extension, so it'll either have to be extended or it will end and I'll have to go back on-site to work. I dread the thought of having to go back on-site given my current schedule, but I guess that's life. The boys are keeping us on our toes (10 and 6 right now) and my wife has picked up a part time job which helps supplement the kids sports costs. I am so happy I've been able to work remotely as it's added so much to our family dynamics. I get to walk the kids to the bus stop, pick them up, go for walks with my wife, and help my parents out with anything they need - move trash cans, help put in banister on stairs, grocery shop for them, etc. I know one day all this will come to an end, but for now I'm really loving it!!
Since I cannot share the delight with my neighbors or family, I thought I'd share here.
My wife (28) and I (35) just hit the half point of a major milestone. I looked at our retirement spreadsheets/personal capital dashboard and saw that we've now crossed over the $500,000 threshold! I know that for some of you this isn't that big of a deal, but we all have to start from somewhere
For those interested, this includes his/her 401K, T-IRA, Roth, Pension payout (as lump sum if taken today)[cashed out pension] and home equity.
Happy Saving!
- Working
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UPDATES:
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ORIGINAL (06/03/14): Crossed over $500,000
UPDATE #1 (09/26/14): Hit $585,000 [Huge increase in home value and constant dumping into IRA & 401K]
UPDATE #2 (01/16/15): Hit $620,000 [Moved 'south' for a new job. Renting out the fixer-upper and big increase in pay and 401K match]
UPDATE #3 (11/11/15): Hit $642,330 Plugging away towards early retirement. Hopefully in another 10 years.
UPDATE #4 (11/15/16): Hit $706,503. Sold the house for a nice profit ($180,000). Decided to focus on my career and really work hard this past year. I got rewarded with a ~$20,000 raise when I approached management with other offers. I now have to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym!!
UPDATE #5 (03/03/17): Hit $766,395. Still need to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym!
UPDATE #6 (06/01/17): Hit $847,388. (Including old pension lump sum) Still need to refocus my attention into getting back to the gym (There's a theme here)! Amazing how making the decision to move affected my NW. In two years since we moved we've almost increased our savings by $200,000.
UPDATE #7 (04/16/18): Arrived at $996,729. My second son was recently born and it got me thinking about college, so I looked at my NW and decided to update this post. Almost in the 2 comma club Looking forward to some sleep as well.
UPDATE #8 (05/09/18): Crossed into the "2 comma club"!!!! Sitting around $1,022,500.00 as of right now. Pretty amazing that in 4 years we've been able to double our initial milestone mark Still looking for that allusive sleep however.
UPDATE #9 (12/18/20) [I'm now 42 and my wife is 35] : $1,536,114. Two kids in (5.5 and 2.5). A new house purchase and a major renovation have been ongoing since 2019. Amazon moved to the area and really drove up the home prices, which has really helped our value a lot [The ONLY reason we've seen a $500K increase in NW in 2 years. Previously took 4 to generate that increase]. Company has given me many merit bonuses and increased their 401K match by 4% - now 10% matching. My (company standard) 1.5% yearly raises, which were previously laughable, are now starting to add up to fund our yearly vacations. Looks like we'll have to save the trip for next year due to COVID. Life is good!
UPDATE #10 (04/25/21) Almost out of this COVID stuff... thought I'd check up on the NW. It's now still at $1,702,598. Kids/family is doing well. We ALL are really looking forward to going back to our normal lives.
UPDATE #11 (11/26/21) I got my booster a little bit ago and my oldest son got his first shot. Feeling better and better about what is happening is this crazy world Since the last post, I've switched my job to another project. I am now working from home and really enjoying it, although working from home not going out has really added a lot to my waistline. I had some extra space in the basement converted to a small gym, so now I just need to get the equipment. On the financial front our Networth rose to 1,950,565.91.
UPDATE #12 (03/16/23) I got another booster, Moderna about a year ago, and it knocked me out for about 3 days. I'm still working from home and as much as I would have liked to workout during the day I haven't been. Instead I've been focusing on work and really pushing forward with learning new technologies and applying them to our project. Due to this, I got a really nice raise this year and I'm making close to 270K, which allows my wife to be able to focus on the kids and things that are needed around the house. We've decided to put both kids back into public school, instead of private, so that'll be a nice savings as well. As much as I wanted to retire early I just don't think its possible for me anymore. I LOVE what I'm doing and I cannot imagine giving it up - who would have thought!
UPDATE #13 (12/21/23) I just finished up another year at my company and am waiting on our yearly compensating increase. Last year it was healthy, but given the rate of inflation was not enough.. Oh well, I'm not here to complain This year I focused on 'me' and losing some of the weight I had gained. I did a great job and lost over 25 LBS and feel really great. Im focused now on how I maintain this and do that through my diet. The exercising was a lot of fun (esp the high after) but def. took away from my - still remote - job. Anyways lets talk numbers!! Currently sitting at 2.21M in all accounts (NOT including kids 529 which we opened last year for the tax benefits - $15K funded so far). What makes this post put a smile on my face is that its been around 10 years now from my original post. Going from $500K to $2.2MM in 10 years is something I would have NEVER thought possible. Originally I wanted to be done working by 50 which is NOW only 5 years away. The more I think about it, the more I feel as though I'll continue to work. It gives me purpose, lines my wallet and pumps up the kids 529 . Lets see what the next 10 have to offer!!!!
UPDATE #14 (07/10/24) I (now 46) am writing this at my parents vacation home while I work remotely and my wife (now 38) and kids enjoy what the area has to offer for the month. In preparation for the summer we purchased a new-to-us boat and have been enjoying it for a nice cruise during the evenings and the kids are loving tubing/skiing/knee boarding,etc. I'm NOT loving the non-ethanol gas prices however I'm slowly gaining some of the weight back that I've lost over the past year due to indulging in the food and drink of "summer" life. Once I get back home, I'll settle back into my workout routine.
As for the numbers, we're looking at $2,682,948 which accounts for the kids 529, retirement accounts, brokerage accounts, bonuses (merit and time charged to client), and home equity (personal capital net worth). This past year I was able to take advantage of our billable rate bonus and earned an extra 10K and received a 4% increase for our annual raise. I dont want to sound 'out-of-touch', but 4% doesnt really cover anything these days, but I guess it's better than what others have reported. Total compensation is $370,559.82 according to my spreadsheets. I have to admit, my company is one of the best companies I could have ever found (and I owe that to my old college roommate)
The current project I am on is on a one year extension, so it'll either have to be extended or it will end and I'll have to go back on-site to work. I dread the thought of having to go back on-site given my current schedule, but I guess that's life. The boys are keeping us on our toes (10 and 6 right now) and my wife has picked up a part time job which helps supplement the kids sports costs. I am so happy I've been able to work remotely as it's added so much to our family dynamics. I get to walk the kids to the bus stop, pick them up, go for walks with my wife, and help my parents out with anything they need - move trash cans, help put in banister on stairs, grocery shop for them, etc. I know one day all this will come to an end, but for now I'm really loving it!!
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Congratulations
Can't wait to join you
John
Can't wait to join you
John
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Thanks John, it almost seems like autopilot now. This forum really helped us out with this milestone - albeit "half milestone".Johm221122 wrote:Congratulations
Can't wait to join you
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Fantastic! It gets easier as the money works harder and harder for you. Keep up the good work and don't freak out during downturns which are sure to come....someday.
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I welcome themmatjen wrote:... don't freak out during downturns which are sure to come....someday.
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Congratulations OP. Was just updating my net worth spreadsheet and saw that our household is approaching the 1 million mark (including home equity) DW & I are both 42. Have adapted the booglehead philosophy & lifestyle in past 3-4 years and it has paid off nicely. It is simple but hard since requires discipline & diligent saving and living below one's means. I would like to thank this community again for their support and wisdom that has been passed to all members for free . Thank you all. Financial freedom is coming soon hopefully !
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That's great - congrats. I look forward to repeating your accomplishments!ALinLI wrote:Congratulations OP. Was just updating my net worth spreadsheet and saw that our household is approaching the 1 million mark (including home equity) DW & I are both 42. Have adapted the booglehead philosophy & lifestyle in past 3-4 years and it has paid off nicely. It is simple but hard since requires discipline & diligent saving and living below one's means. I would like to thank this community again for their support and wisdom that has been passed to all members for free . Thank you all. Financial freedom is coming soon hopefully !
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Congrats! That's a big deal for anyone, and you are still young!
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Congrats! Bogleheads are deinitely a succesful bunch in terms of wealth accumulation. Only a young boglehead would ever say that accumulating 500k is not a big deal. For the average person out there, that is way more wealth than they will accumulate in a lifetime! This website can really skew your reality.
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I'd like to think that it opens ones eyes to your potential future needs.am wrote:This website can really skew your reality.
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Nicely done!
I'm well on my way to that milestone as well
So glad I found this forum...it's both inspiring and motivating for frugal investors like ourselves.
I'm well on my way to that milestone as well
So glad I found this forum...it's both inspiring and motivating for frugal investors like ourselves.
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Do you mean the 1M mark or "half milestone"? I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on.SuperGrafx wrote:Nicely done!
I'm well on my way to that milestone as well ...
Currently, our savings rate is roughly 43% and I've always wondered "if we stopped contributing towards retirement and just let the rule-of-72 run its course, could we survive in the future". I'd be interested in seeing the number if anyone has some free cycles this afternoon
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Working:Working2notWork wrote:Since I cannot share the delight with my neighbors or family, I thought I'd share here.
My wife (28) and I (35) just hit the half point of a major milestone. I looked at our retirement spreadsheets and saw that we've now crossed over the $500,000 threshold! I know that for some of you this isn't that big of a deal, but we all have to start from somewhere
For those interested, this includes his/her 401K, T-IRA, Roth, Pension payout (as lump sum if taken today) and home equity.
Happy Saving!
- Working
I wish we had hit the "$500,000 threshold" when we were your ages.
Stay the course.
Congratulations and best wishes.
Taylor
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Thank you!Taylor Larimore wrote:Working:Working2notWork wrote:Since I cannot share the delight with my neighbors or family, I thought I'd share here.
My wife (28) and I (35) just hit the half point of a major milestone. I looked at our retirement spreadsheets and saw that we've now crossed over the $500,000 threshold! I know that for some of you this isn't that big of a deal, but we all have to start from somewhere
For those interested, this includes his/her 401K, T-IRA, Roth, Pension payout (as lump sum if taken today) and home equity.
Happy Saving!
- Working
I wish we had hit the "$500,000 threshold" when we were your ages.
Stay the course.
Congratulations and best wishes.
Taylor
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You will be amazed at how much this grows on its own going forward. My wife and I hit $500k in december. Now sitting at $560k. Also if you estimate your dividends and interest (which we do in our spreadsheet) you may find that you have $750 - $800 per MONTH in dividends and interest being reinvested. its really motivating to keep contributing at this point. Congrats!
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Great job! Happy for you guys.
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It does motivate you. Funny how setting/meeting goals will do that!Longtimelurker wrote:You will be amazed at how much this grows on its own going forward. My wife and I hit $500k in december. Now sitting at $560k. Also if you estimate your dividends and interest (which we do in our spreadsheet) you may find that you have $750 - $800 per MONTH in dividends and interest being reinvested. its really motivating to keep contributing at this point. Congrats!
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I'd be interested in seeing your calculations. Is this something you're willing to share (The spreadsheet with the formula, not the data)?Longtimelurker wrote: Also if you estimate your dividends and interest (which we do in our spreadsheet) you may find that you have $750 - $800 per MONTH in dividends and interest being reinvested.
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that's great! Make sure you post when you hit the $1M mark and put a link in to this post so people can appreciate the progress.
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- I manually look at the TTM yield about 2x per yearWorking2notWork wrote:I'd be interested in seeing your calculations. Is this something you're willing to share (The spreadsheet with the formula, not the data)?Longtimelurker wrote: Also if you estimate your dividends and interest (which we do in our spreadsheet) you may find that you have $750 - $800 per MONTH in dividends and interest being reinvested.
- Total those up by investment to an annual dividend amount
- Total up the "by investment" annual dividend to a portfolio dividend
- Calculate estimated yield (dividend amount / portfolio balance), Monthly dividend, daily divided etc
I understand that TTM isn't the best measure, and there are inherent inaccuracies in my methodology. However, is should be a decent approximate.
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That's amazing! You guys are so young. I think I just purchased a townhome with my parents help at your age.
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Isn't it great to have a supporting family!??! We did something very similar with our parents during the housing downturn.imgritz wrote:I think I just purchased a townhome with my parents help at your age.
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First, congratulations from all of us amateur LBYM practitioners to a superb LBYM saver.
As your portfolio grows, the numerical size of the market drops increases too. Saving becomes easier, but with more emotional risk. Your wife can ask about what a big drop did to your savings yesterday, and you will answer that it erased an entire year of savings, just because your portfolio is that large. It is a good problem to have, but it doesn't feel that way.
Good news and other news: You get used to living at your spending level, and you get to retire early due to living that way. The next doubling of your portfolio may take a while to accomplish, but your velocity towards your goal is increasing.I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on.
As your portfolio grows, the numerical size of the market drops increases too. Saving becomes easier, but with more emotional risk. Your wife can ask about what a big drop did to your savings yesterday, and you will answer that it erased an entire year of savings, just because your portfolio is that large. It is a good problem to have, but it doesn't feel that way.
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OP, when you hit your target, you'll find tha the momentum of compounding interest will take you far beyond the target you sought.
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Celebrate with a cake whose only message is: " , ,"
Best,
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I plugged your situation into my spreadsheet. My situation is much simpler than yours (no pension, no home equity, just invested money), but it's a rough estimate no matter what, so it's a least a good starting point.Working2notWork wrote:Do you mean the 1M mark or "half milestone"? I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on.SuperGrafx wrote:Nicely done!
I'm well on my way to that milestone as well ...
Currently, our savings rate is roughly 43% and I've always wondered "if we stopped contributing towards retirement and just let the rule-of-72 run its course, could we survive in the future". I'd be interested in seeing the number if anyone has some free cycles this afternoon
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Congratulations.
After some thinking, I've realized that the market return needed to go from $5 to $6, is the same as required to go from $500K to $600K, or $5M to $6M. It's just that when you only have $5 invested, it doesn't seem like much.
Idea for a warm fuzzy.
I play with nest egg (FV) growth projections based on Excel's compound interest formulas.
--Assume any past December statement values (total: Vanguard, 401k,...) to be your baseline (PV).
--Then, each new row (N) is incremented from the baseline (PV), plus new investments (PMT), times your total portfolio growth rate (I) for the year.
--Next December, tweak your growth rate (I) such that it gives an ending row value (FV) for that year that exactly matches your total statement values. This gives you an estimate of your total portfolio's growth rate (I). (Continue updating I at the end of each new year to refine your I.)
Now, by replicating new rows based on same PMT and I, you can guestimate when you will cross different milestones.
In a topic near the current forums founding, it was said the first $500K is the hardest, so I've always considered the first milestone is $500K. The milestones should come more quickly after this. Why?Working2notWork wrote:...
Do you mean the 1M mark or "half milestone"? I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on. ...:
After some thinking, I've realized that the market return needed to go from $5 to $6, is the same as required to go from $500K to $600K, or $5M to $6M. It's just that when you only have $5 invested, it doesn't seem like much.
Idea for a warm fuzzy.
I play with nest egg (FV) growth projections based on Excel's compound interest formulas.
--Assume any past December statement values (total: Vanguard, 401k,...) to be your baseline (PV).
--Then, each new row (N) is incremented from the baseline (PV), plus new investments (PMT), times your total portfolio growth rate (I) for the year.
--Next December, tweak your growth rate (I) such that it gives an ending row value (FV) for that year that exactly matches your total statement values. This gives you an estimate of your total portfolio's growth rate (I). (Continue updating I at the end of each new year to refine your I.)
Now, by replicating new rows based on same PMT and I, you can guestimate when you will cross different milestones.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot when I get home this eveningdratkinson wrote:Congratulations.
In a topic near the current forums founding, it was said the first $500K is the hardest, so I've always considered the first milestone is $500K. The milestones should come more quickly after this. Why?Working2notWork wrote:...
Do you mean the 1M mark or "half milestone"? I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on. ...:
After some thinking, I've realized that the market return needed to go from $5 to $6, is the same as required to go from $500K to $600K, or $5M to $6M. It's just that when you only have $5 invested, it doesn't seem like much.
Idea for a warm fuzzy.
I play with nest egg (FV) growth projections based on Excel's compound interest formulas.
--Assume any past December statement values (total: Vanguard, 401k,...) to be your baseline (PV).
--Then, each new row (N) is incremented from the baseline (PV), plus new investments (PMT), times your total portfolio growth rate (I) for the year.
--Next December, tweak your growth rate (I) such that it gives an ending row value (FV) for that year that exactly matches your total statement values. This gives you an estimate of your total portfolio's growth rate (I). (Continue updating I at the end of each new year to refine your I.)
Now, by replicating new rows based on same PMT and I, you can guestimate when you will cross different milestones.
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I think it's important to look at the steps along the way.....
- Wow - look no credit card debit.
- Ya know, I could pay my bills without a pay check for a while.
- Hey, My net worth seems to be into positive numbers.
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- Ya know I could pay off my mortgage.
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- If I have a bad day at work, I can be done here and now.
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- A beach somewhere
I'm not near the end yet but making progress is good and the steps along the way help to keep on track.
- Wow - look no credit card debit.
- Ya know, I could pay my bills without a pay check for a while.
- Hey, My net worth seems to be into positive numbers.
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- Ya know I could pay off my mortgage.
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- If I have a bad day at work, I can be done here and now.
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- A beach somewhere
I'm not near the end yet but making progress is good and the steps along the way help to keep on track.
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Congratulations! It's always so fun to hit milestones. May the second 500k come soon.
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Congrats! For what it's worth it gets much easier from here with a bit of momentum - even if you hit a recession. Plus since you are young your earnings from work still have time to grow too. I reached $500K just a few years ago and am already crossing the 7 figure mark (a marriage to a fellow Boglehead and a few big raises have helped a lot) - whereas it took much longer to get from $250K to $500K (of course the recession didn't help). It's fun and motivating to watch the compounding start to take shape.
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Don't sell yourself short it is a big deal, so good for you! Congrats!
Curious is this a net worth calc or is it your retirement nest egg? Wondering because I'm just starting to play with my numbers and haven't counted my pension in net worth because I'm not retired or planning to take it early. Also even though mortgage is paid I don't consider it a retirement asset because even if I sell it I've got to pay to live somewhere. Do the rest of you Bogleheads count pension in net worth if not take yet or home equity as part of your retirement funds?
Thanks.
Curious is this a net worth calc or is it your retirement nest egg? Wondering because I'm just starting to play with my numbers and haven't counted my pension in net worth because I'm not retired or planning to take it early. Also even though mortgage is paid I don't consider it a retirement asset because even if I sell it I've got to pay to live somewhere. Do the rest of you Bogleheads count pension in net worth if not take yet or home equity as part of your retirement funds?
Thanks.
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This is a net worth calculation based on my own personal spreadsheets and Fidelity's "Open View" account aggregation application (I think that's the name), although I'd guess that 60% of my assets reside within a "retirement" account.island wrote:Curious is this a net worth calc or is it your retirement nest egg?
My pension administrator allows me to view what I would get as a lump sum if I were to leave the organization on a specific date. I am only using the lump sum value, not the future monthly value. I counted the equity in my house, however I know others do not - I guess it's personal preference. I figured I've been fixing it up and paying it down over the years, why not count it?island wrote: Wondering because I'm just starting to play with my numbers and haven't counted my pension in net worth because I'm not retired or planning to take it early. Also even though mortgage is paid I don't consider it a retirement asset because even if I sell it I've got to pay to live somewhere. Do the rest of you Bogleheads count pension in net worth if not take yet or home equity as part of your retirement funds?
Thanks.
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congratulations!!! It is a great achievement and we are sure you will remain focused to enable you to not work in near future
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Got it, thanks! You've inspired me to play around with my pension numbers now.Working2notWork wrote:This is a net worth calculation based on my own personal spreadsheets and Fidelity's "Open View" account aggregation application (I think that's the name), although I'd guess that 90% of my assets reside within a "retirement" account.island wrote:Curious is this a net worth calc or is it your retirement nest egg?
My pension administrator allows me to view what I would get as a lump sum if I were to leave the organization on a specific date. I am only using the lump sum value, not the future monthly value. I counted the equity in my house, however I know others do not - I guess it's personal preference. I figured I've been fixing it up and paying it down over the years, why not count it?island wrote: Wondering because I'm just starting to play with my numbers and haven't counted my pension in net worth because I'm not retired or planning to take it early. Also even though mortgage is paid I don't consider it a retirement asset because even if I sell it I've got to pay to live somewhere. Do the rest of you Bogleheads count pension in net worth if not take yet or home equity as part of your retirement funds?
Thanks.
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I'm not counting pension in NW calculation but do count estimated home equity. I don't consider estimated home equity really part of my retirement funds, though, but it's something I keep track of when I calculate NW. Maybe when I get closer to retirement I'll consider tracking the present value of the pension, too.island wrote:Don't sell yourself short it is a big deal, so good for you! Congrats!
Curious is this a net worth calc or is it your retirement nest egg? Wondering because I'm just starting to play with my numbers and haven't counted my pension in net worth because I'm not retired or planning to take it early. Also even though mortgage is paid I don't consider it a retirement asset because even if I sell it I've got to pay to live somewhere. Do the rest of you Bogleheads count pension in net worth if not take yet or home equity as part of your retirement funds?
Thanks.
They're all just different data points. I don't know that there's one true or right way to do it. The important thing is that you are making sure the information you're looking at is the type that can help you make the big decisions you need to make.
And to the OP--congratulations and keep up the good work. One page I have in my spreadsheet is an array of estimated future average annual returns/estimated annual contributions. In other words, I can look at that page and say to myself, "Okay, if I continue to invest the exact same amount I am today for the next 20 years at 6% average return, I'll have $___" or "If I increase my annual contribution by x% or $x/mo and earn an average return of 5% each year, then in x years I'll have $____." Totally speculative of course but a kind of fun thing to think about, and looking at the page as a whole gives me an idea of the different ranges of outcomes I can expect and the differing impacts of average annual return/saving percentage. The closer I get to retirement the more meaningful such a chart might be. For now it's just fun to dream about.
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For high income accumulators at 500k portfolio, yearly investments still play a big role in growth. When you hit 1 mil or so than returns matter more. Lose 20% of 500k than down to 400k but 60k yearly contribution gets you to 460k. With 1 mil, you lose 20%, down to 800k with 60k contribution gets you to 860k.
Just an aside, when portfolio gets that big, and you get closer to financial independence, think my risk tolerance will be much lower. Losses of 200k would hurt much more since that may represent 2.5 years of living expenses. How do you dial risk down? Increase bonds 5% for every 10% closer you are to your goal or something like that?
Just an aside, when portfolio gets that big, and you get closer to financial independence, think my risk tolerance will be much lower. Losses of 200k would hurt much more since that may represent 2.5 years of living expenses. How do you dial risk down? Increase bonds 5% for every 10% closer you are to your goal or something like that?
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+1,rob wrote:I think it's important to look at the steps along the way.....
- Wow - look no credit card debit.
- Ya know, I could pay my bills without a pay check for a while.
- Hey, My net worth seems to be into positive numbers.
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- Ya know I could pay off my mortgage.
.....
- If I have a bad day at work, I can be done here and now.
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- A beach somewhere
I'm not near the end yet but making progress is good and the steps along the way help to keep on track.
Its after that pesky mortgage where I felt the biggest freedom thus far.
"Out of clutter, find simplicity” Albert Einstein
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Congratulations! I am still aiming for the quarter milestone, but it is encouraging to see others reach levels like that. Posts like this give me drive to keep plugging away. Thanks for the post, and congratulations again!!!
I'm not a financial professional. Post is info only & not legal advice. No attorney-client relationship exists with reader. Scrutinize my ideas as if you spoke with a guy at a bar. I may be wrong.
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Jay69 wrote: +1,
Its after that pesky mortgage where I felt the biggest freedom thus far.
I dont think I'll ever know the feeling of paying it off early. Our current plan is to keep chugging along and anything that we would have used to pay it off earlier goes into a taxable account. We figure we can find decent investments that return better than 3.3% making paying down the mortgage less than desirable for now. Who knows, we'll see if that plan changes though.
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Thank you! Never thought the day would come as it has. No bells, no whistles... avoid the noise and keep socking it into idx funds.Dulocracy wrote:Congratulations! I am still aiming for the quarter milestone, but it is encouraging to see others reach levels like that. Posts like this give me drive to keep plugging away. Thanks for the post, and congratulations again!!!
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orivyinvestor wrote: Celebrate with a cake whose only message is: " , ,"
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Thanks so much for doing that. It's truly incredible to see how compounding & time are your best friends!ajcp wrote:I plugged your situation into my spreadsheet. My situation is much simpler than yours (no pension, no home equity, just invested money), but it's a rough estimate no matter what, so it's a least a good starting point.Working2notWork wrote:Do you mean the 1M mark or "half milestone"? I'd be curious to know if it gets any easier as time/accumulation marches on.SuperGrafx wrote:Nicely done!
I'm well on my way to that milestone as well ...
Currently, our savings rate is roughly 43% and I've always wondered "if we stopped contributing towards retirement and just let the rule-of-72 run its course, could we survive in the future". I'd be interested in seeing the number if anyone has some free cycles this afternoon
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This is something that I'm wrestling with. Overall AA is 60 stocks/40 bonds, but I just crossed the $1M mark in the taxable portfolio, and I'm starting to seriously question my risk tolerance when the downturn hits. Maybe 50/50 is better? 40/60? Who knows? I guess I've spent so much time trying to get to a certain number that I've neglected to think about what I'll do (or should do) once I hit that number.am wrote:For high income accumulators at 500k portfolio, yearly investments still play a big role in growth. When you hit 1 mil or so than returns matter more. Lose 20% of 500k than down to 400k but 60k yearly contribution gets you to 460k. With 1 mil, you lose 20%, down to 800k with 60k contribution gets you to 860k.
Just an aside, when portfolio gets that big, and you get closer to financial independence, think my risk tolerance will be much lower. Losses of 200k would hurt much more since that may represent 2.5 years of living expenses. How do you dial risk down? Increase bonds 5% for every 10% closer you are to your goal or something like that?
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There are a lot of opinions out there for sure. MMM and his posters have talked about living off dividends vs chasing gains. Not sure if this is something your interested in reading, but it definitely makes you think!Random Poster wrote:This is something that I'm wrestling with. Overall AA is 60 stocks/40 bonds, but I just crossed the $1M mark in the taxable portfolio, and I'm starting to seriously question my risk tolerance when the downturn hits. Maybe 50/50 is better? 40/60? Who knows? I guess I've spent so much time trying to get to a certain number that I've neglected to think about what I'll do (or should do) once I hit that number.am wrote:...Just an aside, when portfolio gets that big, and you get closer to financial independence, think my risk tolerance will be much lower. Losses of 200k would hurt much more since that may represent 2.5 years of living expenses. How do you dial risk down? Increase bonds 5% for every 10% closer you are to your goal or something like that?
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Unlike a lot here, I still carry a mortgage.... BUT I have to admit that the day I knew I could sell my taxable holdings, pay the tax and the mortgage was a nice feeling.... (Yeah I know the market could drop that same day but these are all just feel good milestones to me to help down the path).Jay69 wrote:Its after that pesky mortgage where I felt the biggest freedom thus far.
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Having a 3.3% mortgage helps us sleep at night. No need to throw more at the principal...rob wrote:Unlike a lot here, I still carry a mortgage.... BUT I have to admit that the day I knew I could sell my taxable holdings, pay the tax and the mortgage was a nice feeling.... (Yeah I know the market could drop that same day but these are all just feel good milestones to me to help down the path).Jay69 wrote:Its after that pesky mortgage where I felt the biggest freedom thus far.
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congrats. gota keep on keeping on. I can't wait to retire...fingers crossed!
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great job. You are saving at an incredible rate. I admire it.
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At 35, I had negative net worth, so trust me half a million dollars at your age is a big deal. I hope I get there at 45Working2notWork wrote:Since I cannot share the delight with my neighbors or family, I thought I'd share here.
My wife (28) and I (35) just hit the half point of a major milestone. I looked at our retirement spreadsheets and saw that we've now crossed over the $500,000 threshold! I know that for some of you this isn't that big of a deal, but we all have to start from somewhere
For those interested, this includes his/her 401K, T-IRA, Roth, Pension payout (as lump sum if taken today) and home equity.
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ORIGINAL (06/03/14): Crossed over $500,000
UPDATE #1 (09/26/14): Hit $585,000 [Huge increase in home value and constant dumping into IRA & 401K]
UPDATE #2 (01/16/15): Hit $620,000 [New job. Renting out the fixer-upper and big increase in pay and 401K match]
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Technically, I am 36 now Care to share how you're accomplishing such a monster task?LateStarter1975 wrote: At 35, I had negative net worth, so trust me half a million dollars at your age is a big deal. I hope I get there at 45