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Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby dandan14 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:34 pm

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So one of the responsibilities in my new job is going to be to manage our virtual user groups. We had a meeting yesterday using webex. We had 100+ people in the conference and I recorded the audio and slides for those who couldn't join.

It got me thinking about the potential for a bogleheads virtual group. Have we ever discussed that here?
There are tons of people on the forum who don't have local groups and who haven't made the pilgrimage to the yearly meeting. There are some fairly inexpensive tools out there, but it might make sense to ask people to pitch in a dollar at the "door" to cover costs.

What do folks here think about a quarterly virtual meeting? We could talk with Taylor or Mel on the forum and see if we could get it officially publicized. It would make it even easier to get high caliber speakers -- since they'd have a large audience.

Thoughts?

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference?

Postby Riprap » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:39 pm

FWIW, I would love to participate in a panel discussion, keynote address or any other notable event at the annual Boglehead's Conference via web conference.

I nominate you to organize it!

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference?

Postby livesoft » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:57 pm

Since we do webex stuff at work all the time, it would be too much like being at work. :(

Just make sure you have clear rules about "raising your hand" and the moderator calls on people and after the person has finished speaking that they say "Back to you, Dan, I'm done."
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Re: Online group meetings via web conference?

Postby dandan14 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:06 pm

livesoft wrote:Since we do webex stuff at work all the time, it would be too much like being at work. :(

Just make sure you have clear rules about "raising your hand" and the moderator calls on people and after the person has finished speaking that they say "Back to you, Dan, I'm done."


Yeah...I think we could moderate that pretty easily by muting all lines except the speaker and moderator. Then we could open up for a Q&A time.
I'm thinking 3-4 times a year would give us enough time to get a boglehead speaker for each event without being over burdensome.

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Postby Sidney » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:09 pm

livesoft wrote:Since we do webex stuff at work all the time, it would be too much like being at work. :(


Maybe there is a time save here. Schedule the calls quarterly when most of the funds have their distribution. The title of the call can be "Why did fund XYZ drop so much today?"
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Re: Online group meetings via web conference?

Postby Steve Thorpe » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:05 pm

Hi Dan,

I would certainly love to participate - very nice idea!

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Postby TimeRunner » Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:18 pm

Maybe Vanguard, Fido, or TDAmeritrade would sponsor the meeting, if that's kosher. Perhaps someone here on the forum has an inside track to that?
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Postby lazylarry » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:06 pm

Anybody know of groups that broadcast boglehead meetings online or if there is a group that does online talks exclusively? For those of us that are in a less boglehead-populated area.
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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby Good Listener » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:41 pm

GREAT IDEA. We need something like that.

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Postby DartThrower » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:48 pm

Ditto. The technology is cheap or free and relatively easy to use which is very Bogleheadish.

Besides... Ladygeek doesn't have enough to do. :twisted:

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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby Will do good » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:00 pm

What a good idea. OP wants to be the fist host? :twisted:

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Postby Durzo » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:06 pm

This is an awesome idea. I really hope this takes off; I will make sure to attend if this happens. We could do a monthly/bi-weekly broadcast type of thing. Each time we have an agenda to cover certain topics.

It would probably be best if a senior well known member set it up. However, if no one is interested I'd be happy to set it up for us.

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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby gkaplan » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:43 pm

Is this a webcast we're talking about here? I would prefer a podcast or an on-demand broadcast.
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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby MitchL » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:45 pm

Could also stream the annual Boglehead conference...

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Postby DEZ1 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:53 pm

Great idea

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Postby lazylarry » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:24 am

Durzo wrote:This is an awesome idea. I really hope this takes off; I will make sure to attend if this happens. We could do a monthly/bi-weekly broadcast type of thing. Each time we have an agenda to cover certain topics.

It would probably be best if a senior well known member set it up. However, if no one is interested I'd be happy to set it up for us.


Wow surprised there is so much interest! Well yes I think this would be great, I'd agree w/ Durzo that a senior member would be better to host or at least moderate the discussion/topics. I think podcast would be nice as well but I was looking for something more interactive and also I think podcasts would take a while to make.
-I feel like this is something that could be done weekly or at least monthly (and ppl attend when they can), especially given how much time some senior members spend posting on here. :wink:
-Durzo if you wanted to take point that would be great, what software/website would you use? I'm not too familiar with a platform that would allow for something like slides (if that's needed).
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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby DartThrower » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:09 pm

I know an organization that has had good success with Zoom.

https://zoom.us/

And then of course there's skype, gotomeeting and webex. I'm sure there are many forum members with expertise in these and possibly others.

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Postby sschullo » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:39 pm

DartThrower wrote:I know an organization that has had good success with Zoom.

https://zoom.us/

And then of course there's skype, gotomeeting and webex. I'm sure there are many forum members with expertise in these and possibly others.


Zoom is great. Used it with my shrink aka life coach.
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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby ny_rn » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:44 pm

Great idea. If funds are needed to host this monthly, I'm sure we can all chip in a few dollars to cover costs. We can use our "fun money." :D

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Re: Virtual boglehead meeting?

Postby freedom5555 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:50 pm

[Thread merged into here, see below. --admin LadyGeek]

I found a post from a couple years ago viewtopic.php?t=126449 about tying to start virtual BH meetings.
Maybe they can merge.

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference?

Postby freedom5555 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:53 pm

A new post has started about virtual BH meetings.
viewtopic.php?t=213547

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Postby Mel Lindauer » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:06 pm

Would there be interest in a Virtual Local Chapter? Who would be the coordinator and who would handle the technical end?

Remember that the word "Bogleheads" is a registered trademark/service mark and cannot be used without permission.

I'll need to hear more from those who propose to run this operation and will need definite assurance that this will follow the Boglehead philosophy and not be used in any commercial way.
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Postby LadyGeek » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:52 pm

freedom5555 wrote:[Thread merged into here, see below. --admin LadyGeek]

I found a post from a couple years ago viewtopic.php?t=126449 about tying to start virtual BH meetings.
Maybe they can merge.

Done. I also retitled the thread for clarity.

dandan14 - If you want to change the thread title further, just edit the Subject: line in Post #1.

DartThrower wrote:Ditto. The technology is cheap or free and relatively easy to use which is very Bogleheadish.

Besides... Ladygeek doesn't have enough to do. :twisted:

Tell me about it. Actually, you can - we're both members of the Bogleheads Philly Local Chapter. (DartThrower is the chapter founder.) :)

If this becomes a local chapter, we'll add it to the blog and wiki:

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby dandan14 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:27 pm

Wow, my 4 year old post got some new life today!

Since there seems to be some interest, I would be interested in working on this.

I use webex daily for work, but that's not something I want to pay for. Others mentioned free tools. What are the best free tools for webex-like web conferences?

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Postby lazylarry » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:47 am

dandan14 wrote:Wow, my 4 year old post got some new life today!

Since there seems to be some interest, I would be interested in working on this.

I use webex daily for work, but that's not something I want to pay for. Others mentioned free tools. What are the best free tools for webex-like web conferences?

dan


Mel Lindauer wrote:Would there be interest in a Virtual Local Chapter? Who would be the coordinator and who would handle the technical end?

Remember that the word "Bogleheads" is a registered trademark/service mark and cannot be used without permission.

I'll need to hear more from those who propose to run this operation and will need definite assurance that this will follow the Boglehead philosophy and not be used in any commercial way.


-I think there is enough interest for a Virtual Online Chapter from a least a few people. I think a couple people (dandan, durzo) would be willing to coordinate/handle technical side and I could help as well. Looking at the platforms suggested, zoom is probably the best initial platform as it's free and supports up to 50 people. The one downside is an auto-cutoff at 40 min but this could just be used as a break. Skype is another option but supports 25 people.
-It will follow Boglehead philosophy, we aren't planning to use it commerically.
-Would be very helpful if we had a more senior Boglehead member (Mel? Would look good on your resume :wink: ) for the actual meeting content. They could probably provide you with more information regarding the actual content. I'll try PMing a few of them to see if they have any interest.
-Was thinking that we could meeting weekly, bimonthly, or monthly depending on level of interest and moderator schedule.
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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby Good Listener » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:39 pm

I will participate if you can get it going. I would think every 2 or 3 months would be a decent starting place.

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Postby Mel Lindauer » Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:51 pm

lazylarry wrote:
dandan14 wrote:Wow, my 4 year old post got some new life today!

Since there seems to be some interest, I would be interested in working on this.

I use webex daily for work, but that's not something I want to pay for. Others mentioned free tools. What are the best free tools for webex-like web conferences?

dan


Mel Lindauer wrote:Would there be interest in a Virtual Local Chapter? Who would be the coordinator and who would handle the technical end?

Remember that the word "Bogleheads" is a registered trademark/service mark and cannot be used without permission.

I'll need to hear more from those who propose to run this operation and will need definite assurance that this will follow the Boglehead philosophy and not be used in any commercial way.


-I think there is enough interest for a Virtual Online Chapter from a least a few people. I think a couple people (dandan, durzo) would be willing to coordinate/handle technical side and I could help as well. Looking at the platforms suggested, zoom is probably the best initial platform as it's free and supports up to 50 people. The one downside is an auto-cutoff at 40 min but this could just be used as a break. Skype is another option but supports 25 people.
-It will follow Boglehead philosophy, we aren't planning to use it commerically.
-Would be very helpful if we had a more senior Boglehead member (Mel? Would look good on your resume :wink: ) for the actual meeting content. They could probably provide you with more information regarding the actual content. I'll try PMing a few of them to see if they have any interest.
-Was thinking that we could meeting weekly, bimonthly, or monthly depending on level of interest and moderator schedule.


I've got more than enough on my plate and am way too busy to commit to anything else at this time. Besides, my resume already takes up way too many pages. :-)

However, if you can get the technical side taken care of, I'm currently working with a high-profile senior member who would agree to be the moderator of the online meetings if everything worked out right. He could also get well-known guests to make presentations and do Q&As with the attendees at the various online meetings.
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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby dandan14 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:02 pm

If we want to do this right, I suggest that we use business-grade tools -- either gotomeeting/gotowebinar or webex.
Doing this on the cheap is likely going to result in frustration.

Decent tools would be about $600/yr to host up to 100 people. (Similar pricing for webex and goto.)

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby Good Listener » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:32 pm

dandan14 wrote:If we want to do this right, I suggest that we use business-grade tools -- either gotomeeting/gotowebinar or webex.
Doing this on the cheap is likely going to result in frustration.

Decent tools would be about $600/yr to host up to 100 people. (Similar pricing for webex and goto.)


I think whoever will set it up can indicate the cost and it would be required to raise that amount to proceed. Somehow I'm sure a way to specifically donate to it can be set up on the site. Then progress can be tracked and reported. Compared to a live meeting there would be no transportation or food costs so people will contribute. I bet the funds could be raised in a day or two.

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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby BanditKing » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:51 pm

WebEx or Gotomeeting might be willing to donate the time in exchange for a prominent mention given that we have a customer base that in many cases are decision makers, especially if it's only quarterly or even monthly. Definitely want to use a more-commercial product though that doesn't have hard-caps on particpants, and can be recorded for later viewing and archiving.

We use WebEx at my work. It's fine and has decent tools to manage participants.

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Postby lazylarry » Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:03 pm

dandan14 wrote:If we want to do this right, I suggest that we use business-grade tools -- either gotomeeting/gotowebinar or webex.
Doing this on the cheap is likely going to result in frustration.

Decent tools would be about $600/yr to host up to 100 people. (Similar pricing for webex and goto.)


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dandan14 wrote:If we want to do this right, I suggest that we use business-grade tools -- either gotomeeting/gotowebinar or webex.
Doing this on the cheap is likely going to result in frustration.

Decent tools would be about $600/yr to host up to 100 people. (Similar pricing for webex and goto.)


I think whoever will set it up can indicate the cost and it would be required to raise that amount to proceed. Somehow I'm sure a way to specifically donate to it can be set up on the site. Then progress can be tracked and reported. Compared to a live meeting there would be no transportation or food costs so people will contribute. I bet the funds could be raised in a day or two.


I mean zoom is free for 40 minutes, we'd just need to restart it after that time (and could just consider that a 40 min break). Zoom is considered business-grade. I tested it and it seems relatively simple and straightforward. There are links that people could use, and even call-ins if you're on the road.

I don't know that we have more than 5-10ppl at this time, and also I don't know how many people would be willing to pay unless it was $5-10/yr. Also what do we do if people don't pay? You have to pay ahead of time usually for those services, so that would be wasted money for the hoster and I'm not quite that rich (yet) :D . If this grows, then definitely I hear ya. Or if you guys want to pay for it or raise money or negotiate with other hosting services, obviously fine by me as well.

Regardless, Mel, is there any chance we could at least start an email group for people who are interested?
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Re: Online group meetings via web conference? [Virtual online chapter]

Postby Good Listener » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:37 pm

WebEx works great. And if they will donate it for a prominent mention why not?


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