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Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Phineas J. Whoopee » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:43 pm

Ten days ago I saw hundreds of registered users and lurkers reading. Today, on a weekend evening, it's back to normal, despite the past week's volatility. Can it be that our reader numbers increase with the market being volatile down, but decrease with it being volatile up?

Maybe volatility only applies with a negative sign, but not a positive one.

Are we an inverse function?

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by steve roy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:47 pm

All I can tell you is I come to the site when I have the time, NOT in reaction to market conditions. Sometimes I'm crazy busy and have no time for the interwebs or Bogleheads.org. Other times I'm sitting on my backside, and THAT'S when I visit BH.com. Can't speak for others, but that's how/when I climb aboard.
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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by mortfree » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:48 pm

Everyone is busy revising their IPS.

Everyone is busy rebalancing.

Everyone “goes fishing” when the market is down so they don’t do anything

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Post by livesoft » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:50 pm

Yes, bogleheads.org is a superb Market Timing Indicator. Also a superb Tax Loss Harvesting Indicator.
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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by VictoriaF » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:55 pm

Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:43 pm
Are we an inverse function?

PJW
Yes, we are:
When the market is rising everybody knows what to do.
When the market is falling nobody knows what to do.

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by whodidntante » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:08 pm

Someone should make an ETF based on the predictive power of bogleheads.org traffic. Make sure to apply blockchain and AI so you don't have to spend money on marketing. Ticker: BOGL

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by randomizer » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:15 pm

steve roy wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:47 pm
All I can tell you is I come to the site when I have the time, NOT in reaction to market conditions
I come here and therefore find out about market conditions.
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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by fishandgolf » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:17 pm

It's probably innate in our culture/ behavior.....everybody wants to see the train wreck....... :( :(

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by chevca » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:41 pm

Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:43 pm
Ten days ago I saw hundreds of registered users and lurkers reading. Today, on a weekend evening, it's back to normal, despite the past week's volatility. Can it be that our reader numbers increase with the market being volatile down, but decrease with it being volatile up?
Or, decrease because it was the weekend compared to mid-week, St. Patrick's Day weekend on top of that, and many are too drunk or hung over to give a darn about market volatility for 48 hours?? :D :sharebeer

I'd say you're putting FAR too much thought into why reader numbers are so different 10 days apart.

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by nedsaid » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:00 pm

VictoriaF wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:55 pm
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:43 pm
Are we an inverse function?

PJW
Yes, we are:
When the market is rising everybody knows what to do.
When the market is falling nobody knows what to do.

Victoria
What too many people do is seek the wrong type of financial advice. I suppose when markets experience volatility that rattled people call firms like Ameriprise and Edward Jones. In the aftermath of the 2000-2002 bear market, the no-load mutual fund industry shrank like crazy as a lot of people ran to advisors, many such funds were purchased and then converted to loaded funds. A lot of money went out of no-load funds and into loaded funds like American Funds. Today, I can think of four major no-load fund companies, a few smaller shops, and a couple that are half and half. Most of the mutual fund industry are loaded funds.

Further, I suppose that when we experience long bull markets that people leave their advisors convinced they can do this on their own. They can, if they don't require lots of hand holding and have the fortitude to stay invested through bad markets. My feeling, unfortunately, is that many of these new do-it-yourself investors go running back to advisors.

I am in favor of getting good financial advice, but paying for it buy the hour instead of paying an AUM fee. If you have to pay for a portfolio manager, at least go to somebody who uses the cheaper Index Funds or ETFs based on indexes or more passive and lower cost funds like DFA.
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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Broken Man 1999 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:13 pm

St. Patrick's Day?
March Madness?

Also, absolutely gorgeous weather in some parts of the nation, like 74 degrees in my neck of the woods.

Outside I go with a good cigar and a frosty adult beverage! :sharebeer

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Marketman » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:28 pm

Maybe some company can invent an inverse derivative leveraged ETF based on viewing numbers here!

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by zaplunken » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:33 pm

I've been too busy market timing! :wink:

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Phineas J. Whoopee » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:12 pm

How strange. This afternoon we have hundreds of people reading again.
PJW

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Mudpuppy » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:50 pm

Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:12 pm
How strange. This afternoon we have hundreds of people reading again.
For those still working and with children in school, it's the Spring Break time of year. School holidays can affect readership levels, even when the market is being "boring", much less when it's being "exciting".

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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by triceratop » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:14 pm

Mudpuppy wrote:
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:50 pm
Phineas J. Whoopee wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:12 pm
How strange. This afternoon we have hundreds of people reading again.
For those still working and with children in school, it's the Spring Break time of year. School holidays can affect readership levels, even when the market is being "boring", much less when it's being "exciting".
Don't forget to consider the kids in school themselves might be reading the forum in greater numbers while on break. At least, I happen to be on spring "break" and very much on bogleheads.org. ;)
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Re: Fewer Readers Despite Continued Market Volatility

Post by Sandtrap » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:18 pm

I found out from a (non Bogle) friend who told met the market dropped "severely" and his helpful and wise "broker" told him the following:
The market is going to drop and never recover over the next 10 years.
And, convinced him to sell all of his portfolio and buy GNMA./Fannie Mae.

That's how I found out about the "continuing market folatility.

That said, the forum has an inverse "weekend function". Traffic soars.
j :D

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