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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by GCD » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:50 am

Darth Xanadu wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:32 am
"YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary. People may have a different opinion or experience."

There are virtually zero reasons to ever use this acronym, and anyone who does use it is simply sowing confusion.
I think people may use it after posting something they believe is controversial or confrontational in an attempt to smooth the exchange and avoid riling someone up. It is kind of a throw-away phrase, but it seems to soften a post that might be perceived as antagonistic.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by JamesSFO » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:08 pm

goblue100 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:36 am
JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 am
LadyGeek wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
Thanks to suggestion by goblue100 here, abbreviations and acronyms are now in the forum's FAQ.

The FAQ is at the top-left menu of the forum page (including mobile devices).

The new entry "Abbreviations and Acronyms" is at the top of the list.
Any chance of adding "LMP" (liability matching portfolio) to the list? It was in a long thread and not defined and also hard to figure out.
It's there:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Abbrevi ... ronyms#L-Q
Weird, I looked this AM and would swear I didn't see it. Apologies.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by David Jay » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:25 pm

ResearchMed wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:43 pm
DrGoogle2017 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 8:29 pm
DaftInvestor wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:42 pm
OP,
It took me a while to get used to when I started too but i got used to it. YMMV.
Oh - and FYI /BTW in case you don't know OP = Original Poster (I've guessed).
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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by TwstdSista » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:31 pm

JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:08 pm
....
Weird, I looked this AM and would swear I didn't see it. Apologies.
AM ????

(kidding! I couldn't help myself....)

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Phineas J. Whoopee » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:32 pm

JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 am
...
Any chance of adding "LMP" (liability matching portfolio) to the list? It was in a long thread and not defined and also hard to figure out.
Thanks. I always thought it was just the first part of the term LMP SM, yous.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by J295 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:16 pm

by perl » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:45 am

Acronyms signal insider status, showing that you are in the know. They are unwelcoming and exclude newcomers.
I understand this is your opinion.
Do you have evidence to support this assertion?

Consider .... Someone asks a question about health insurance under the Affordable Care Act and ways to control Modified Adjusted Gross Income. I don't find it signaling insider status or showing in the know or unwelcoming or exclusionary to use ACA and MAGI in a reply post where I'm trying to provide insights to the poster and those interested.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by rgs92 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:49 pm

i thought the issue with acronyms here concerned using ticker symbols without stating what they stand for.
I didn't think it pertained to using acronyms in the same fashion as is common on most internet forums.
Please correct me if I am mistaken about this.

And abbreviations are common in texting, since they are almost absolutely necessary when typing on a smartphone.
And I'm sure many here are posting from a (phone or tablet).
So I think restricting them in general would discourage usage and popularity of the forums here, and that's not a good thing IMHO.

(Not to mention carpal tunnel prevention.)

And these things are virtually part of the language now and are showing up in official dictionaries now.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Sandtrap » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:18 pm

There's a point where, "all things in moderation. . including moderation". . applies in the use of acronyms, abbreviations, and so forth.
Some is good, okay, or tolerable, but more becomes overwhelming becomes awkward to read. I consider it an education.
Certainly better, as the forum goes global, than being cluttered with terms/phrases in other languages which would be difficult, indeed.
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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by saltycaper » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:19 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
Thanks to suggestion by goblue100 here, abbreviations and acronyms are now in the forum's FAQ.
I'm sorry, I don't know what that means. Is a FAQ a hangout where common abbreviations and acronyms are permitted? Do we head on over to F.A.Q. if we want to post using initialisms?

/sarcasm

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Phineas J. Whoopee » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:20 pm

rgs92 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:49 pm
...
So I think restricting them in general would discourage usage and popularity of the forums here, and that's not a good thing IMHO.
...
Nobody, to my knowledge, has brought up the subject of restricting acronyms or initialisms.

We're discussing how best to be polite.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by randomizer » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:36 pm

About the only acronyms I am a fan of are TLH and AA. I could live without the rest quite happily.
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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by cfs » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:43 pm

Actually, the only one I like is ITB because I want my portfolio to be "In The Black" as much as possible.

And of course, I dislike ITR because I don't want my portfolio to be "In The Red" for a second.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Sandtrap » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:47 pm

Although at some point, which is more polite?
(example)

Portfolio review request
DW
401(k) - $510k
H.S.A.’s - $200k
Roth - $401k

DH
401(k) - $510k
H.S.A.’s - $200k
Roth - $401k

DK's
529 - $323k

and nothing else?

or have each of the above followed by 20 Tickers from various brokerages/entities and nothing else?

. . . . . . . or have the entirety read like a Russian novel? :shock:

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by wak » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:56 pm

dm200 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:58 pm
One technique, perhaps, is to spell it out the first time - then use the acronym.
Bravo

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Phineas J. Whoopee » Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:57 pm

randomizer wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:36 pm
About the only acronyms I am a fan of are TLH and AA. I could live without the rest quite happily.
Why do you prefer TLH over Tax Loss Harvesting, and AA over Asset Allocation?

My view is the writer is obligated to make the writing clear to all the potential readers, not to save h/er/im self a few keystrokes. If I save myself ten seconds, but cost a thousand other people a collective hour or two, I should type it out. Am I writing for me or for them?

Why are you a fan of those two initialisms in particular? Is it too much trouble to write out Tax Loss Harvesting or Asset Allocation?

It's the job of the writer to serve the readers, not the job of the readers to serve the writer.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by DaftInvestor » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:29 pm

JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:08 pm
goblue100 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:36 am
JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 am
LadyGeek wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
Thanks to suggestion by goblue100 here, abbreviations and acronyms are now in the forum's FAQ.

The FAQ is at the top-left menu of the forum page (including mobile devices).

The new entry "Abbreviations and Acronyms" is at the top of the list.
Any chance of adding "LMP" (liability matching portfolio) to the list? It was in a long thread and not defined and also hard to figure out.
It's there:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Abbrevi ... ronyms#L-Q
Weird, I looked this AM and would swear I didn't see it. Apologies.
AM? It's not on the list although AMT is.

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by triceratop » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:46 pm

DaftInvestor wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:29 pm
JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:08 pm
goblue100 wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:36 am
JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:34 am
LadyGeek wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
Thanks to suggestion by goblue100 here, abbreviations and acronyms are now in the forum's FAQ.

The FAQ is at the top-left menu of the forum page (including mobile devices).

The new entry "Abbreviations and Acronyms" is at the top of the list.
Any chance of adding "LMP" (liability matching portfolio) to the list? It was in a long thread and not defined and also hard to figure out.
It's there:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Abbrevi ... ronyms#L-Q
Weird, I looked this AM and would swear I didn't see it. Apologies.
AM? It's not on the list although AMT is.
AMT is too long to type, we have needed to abbreviate it now.
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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Sandtrap » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:55 pm

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Re: Fewer acronyms please

Post by Sandtrap » Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:58 pm

TwstdSista wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:31 pm
JamesSFO wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:08 pm
....
Weird, I looked this AM and would swear I didn't see it. Apologies.
AM ????

(kidding! I couldn't help myself....)
"Assets Managed"?

. . . I am slowwwww. :shock:
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Re: Fewer acronyms please

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