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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by stlutz » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:23 am

The best way to improve the forum is simply to improve the quality of one's own posts. Good posts are why I come here and why many google searches on investing topics will list BH posts high up in the search rankings.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mudpuppy » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:36 am

Erwin wrote:
Lovely Rita wrote:Maybe for the Personal Consumers Issues, you could add a sticky that says: FIRST do a search to see if your issue has been addressed. Then, of course, explain how to do the search.
What is the purpose of having a Personal Consumers Issues section, this is a forum about investments?
This is a forum about personal finance, not just investments. In the personal finance perspective, being wise in one's consumption of consumer goods leads to being wise with one's money. That's also why there is a Personal Finance section.
mj13f150 wrote:a larger default font, or a way to increase the font size without doing CTRL+ which makes everything on the page bigger. Font is tiny.
The font issue is tied to the forum settings, as the font size is set in the CSS file(s) for the phpBB style being used. This forum only supports one style at the moment, the default phpBB style.
telemark wrote:If Warren hit Jimmy while lunching in Las Vegas, how would the headline read?
Buffett buffets Buffett at the buffet... which is not quite as good as "a ship shipping ship shipping shipping ships" or "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo".

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Erwin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:39 am

Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:
Lovely Rita wrote:Maybe for the Personal Consumers Issues, you could add a sticky that says: FIRST do a search to see if your issue has been addressed. Then, of course, explain how to do the search.
What is the purpose of having a Personal Consumers Issues section, this is a forum about investments?
This is a forum about personal finance, not just investments. In the personal finance perspective, being wise in one's consumption of consumer goods leads to being wise with one's money. That's also why there is a Personal Finance section.
mj13f150 wrote:a larger default font, or a way to increase the font size without doing CTRL+ which makes everything on the page bigger. Font is tiny.
The font issue is tied to the forum settings, as the font size is set in the CSS file(s) for the phpBB style being used. This forum only supports one style at the moment, the default phpBB style.
telemark wrote:If Warren hit Jimmy while lunching in Las Vegas, how would the headline read?
Buffett buffets Buffett at the buffet... which is not quite as good as "a ship shipping ship shipping shipping ships" or "Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo".
Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mudpuppy » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:48 am

Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
And yet many others find value in the Consumer forum, as evidenced by the vocal outcry when it was temporarily suspended several years ago while the admins determined if the forum would run counter to the goals of a non-profit personal finance entity.

There may be topics of a more trivial nature, but even the car wash question brings to mind personal finance issues of maintenance and upkeep of one's possessions, and trade-offs one might make between ultimate frugality and spending a reasonable amount on "wants".

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Erwin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:25 am

Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
And yet many others find value in the Consumer forum, as evidenced by the vocal outcry when it was temporarily suspended several years ago while the admins determined if the forum would run counter to the goals of a non-profit personal finance entity.

There may be topics of a more trivial nature, but even the car wash question brings to mind personal finance issues of maintenance and upkeep of one's possessions, and trade-offs one might make between ultimate frugality and spending a reasonable amount on "wants".
I am sure that I will not win much support by my coments, but the fact that many enjoy the topic of car washing in a forum that was specifically formed to deal with investments does not mean at all that it should be part of thus forum. Recently there was a healthy discussion on the type of guns to own. I think that cars and guns deserve to be addressed in a more relevant medium as much as I think that these topics negatively impact what we are trying to accomplish here.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by legio XX » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:03 am

If an interview a few years ago had gone better, one of the first things I'd have done - as soon as my feet got back on the ground - was to ask the Bogleheads for advice on buying a car, then probably on maintaining it. Unfortunately, I will still be scrolling past auto (and gun and boat and expensive watch) threads. But I'm glad they're there because that means stuff I do need information on such as a new computer purchase in the near future or how to best allot my connectivity budget (i.e. spend as little as possible on cell phones) can be addressed.

This definitely impacts investments in a basic way. Money I dump without need can't go into the Roth. Or worse yer comes out of my investments and may even be taxed. :thumbsdown Consumer stuff can really affect investments.

Kudos to the mods for keeping trolls, shills and spammers at bay :beer - and, puhleeze keep the consumer category. It isn't irrelevant.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Tanelorn » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:02 am

miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
+1. That's what like buttons are for! :happy

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mudpuppy » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:14 am

Erwin wrote:
Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
And yet many others find value in the Consumer forum, as evidenced by the vocal outcry when it was temporarily suspended several years ago while the admins determined if the forum would run counter to the goals of a non-profit personal finance entity.

There may be topics of a more trivial nature, but even the car wash question brings to mind personal finance issues of maintenance and upkeep of one's possessions, and trade-offs one might make between ultimate frugality and spending a reasonable amount on "wants".
I am sure that I will not win much support by my coments, but the fact that many enjoy the topic of car washing in a forum that was specifically formed to deal with investments does not mean at all that it should be part of thus forum. Recently there was a healthy discussion on the type of guns to own. I think that cars and guns deserve to be addressed in a more relevant medium as much as I think that these topics negatively impact what we are trying to accomplish here.
It seems like we have different definitions of what this forum is trying to accomplish. I see it as promoting wise use of money in all areas of one's life (e.g. comprehensive financial literacy in one's personal finances), which would include both investing and consumer purchases like $5000 watches, cars, houses, and even guns. Perhaps you see it as just investing, in which case we'll have to agree to disagree.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by patriciamgr2 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:30 am

To follow up on another poster's comment about encouraging Forum members to search before posting a new topic, I suggest that a pleasantly-worded reminder be placed on each Post a New Topic page. Perhaps something could be included that suggests that, if the poster reads relevant Wiki sections and threads first, his question is likely to be more specific and accordingly the quality of responses may be improved.

I like the technology (especially security) discussions in consumer topics. They're enormously helpful to me & I do consider them as part of my financial planning. I skip any consumer issues I don't care about, so their existence doesn't bother me. [I plead guilty to asking a question about ammo. The online source I learned about from the replies cut my target practice expenses by approx 40%]. Being able to ask consumer questions of a sane, (generally) civil group of intelligent people is helpful, even if it's not the primary purpose of the Forum. It's ok to skip topics which are not of interest to you personally, I do.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Miriam2 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 11:52 am

patriciamgr2 wrote:Huge shout out to administrators--we don't thank you enough for the extraordinary work you do. Thank you!
I agree a million times over for maintaining this wonderful forum that has improved the financial lives of so many. :D :D

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by ubermax » Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:20 pm

Peter Foley wrote:I would also like to be able to post an excel spreadsheet or table and have the formatting hold. Again, I know there is a way to do this, but as one who would only do so occasionally, it is something I would have to relearn each time I used it.
I also wanted to be able to do this and the solution for me was to establish a free DropBox account with cloud storage ; Office files can be put out there with an access link provided and anonymity is also preserved - maybe not the best option for some but I think there are at least a few others on the forum who use GoogleDrive which is similar .

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by island » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:30 pm

Mrxyz wrote:How about a section just for portfolio review ? Currently there are many portfolio reviews which get(/need) bumped as the review - by many contributors over time - is not complete and it can take a long time as it goes down the list and 'disappears' in page 2 etc.
That's a great idea!
I learn a lot from those.
You're right, like everything else they get pushed down in the threads and a seperate section would make it easier to keep track of them. Plus some people get "creative" and don't include portfolio review in their title and I don't see them.

Would be helpful to attach the sticky about how to post a portfolio review to that section too, if possible.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by island » Sat Aug 20, 2016 1:43 pm

miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
Why? If someone asks for an opinion that boils down to an either/or, looking for a consensus response, or favorite brand of something, and a poster is in agreement with what's already been posted then why not do a +1 rather than take the time and space to blabber on basically the same thing.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by rongos » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:18 pm

island wrote:
miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
Why? If someone asks for an opinion that boils down to an either/or, looking for a consensus response, or favorite brand of something, and a poster is in agreement with what's already been posted then why not do a +1 rather than take the time and space to blabber on basically the same thing.
I think this is something Bogleheads is missing compared to other good forums that have this feature. They have a way to applaud a good post, a way to show that you strongly agree with what a poster says, a way to give support or to promote what someone else said, without having to respond "+1". A certain other forum shows a green bar that grows longer and longer every time someone votes on it, or a red bar when enough people down vote it. In this way, people won't have to say "+1", they can click a vote button, and other people will see that what this person said is very popular or has a high approval rating.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by retiredjg » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:24 pm

Perhaps some language near the google box to the effect of…

"Have a question? Research it here first!"

I think the forum is near perfect considering the number of people using it and the fact that it is free and seems mostly run by volunteers. For the most part, I'm content to be content with what the owners of the forum decide.

That said, I'd still like a word of caution in the registration procedure. Something like
  • "If you are seeking financial advice, a significant amount of personal information may be requested. For this reason, consider an anonymous username instead of a username that relates to your actual identity."

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by island » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:35 pm

rongos wrote:
island wrote:
miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
Why? If someone asks for an opinion that boils down to an either/or, looking for a consensus response, or favorite brand of something, and a poster is in agreement with what's already been posted then why not do a +1 rather than take the time and space to blabber on basically the same thing.
I think this is something Bogleheads is missing compared to other good forums that have this feature. They have a way to applaud a good post, a way to show that you strongly agree with what a poster says, a way to give support or to promote what someone else said, without having to respond "+1". A certain other forum shows a green bar that grows longer and longer every time someone votes on it, or a red bar when enough people down vote it. In this way, people won't have to say "+1", they can click a vote button, and other people will see that what this person said is very popular or has a high approval rating.
That's different than what I'm talking about. I have no intention or desire to uses it as an approval rating or Facebook Like.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by longinvest » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:40 pm

miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
-1 :wink:
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Miriam2 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 2:58 pm

retiredjg wrote:I think the forum is near perfect considering the number of people using it and the fact that it is free and seems mostly run by volunteers. For the most part, I'm content to be content with what the owners of the forum decide.

That said, I'd still like a word of caution in the registration procedure. Something like
  • "If you are seeking financial advice, a significant amount of personal information may be requested. For this reason, consider an anonymous username instead of a username that relates to your actual identity."
I agree with this. The forum is near perfect, but a word of user-name caution should be added. Not only would it help new registers properly plan their registration and posts, it is important information we should be providing them. The registration page doesn't give them a heads-up that their user name is not just for logging in, it's also their screen name visible to the public and open to screen shots.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by harrychan » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:08 pm

Ability to highlight the OP in the responses would be a great addition. I hate having to go back to page 1 first post to see who the OP was then scroll through to find responses or updates.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Erwin » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:21 pm

Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:
Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
And yet many others find value in the Consumer forum, as evidenced by the vocal outcry when it was temporarily suspended several years ago while the admins determined if the forum would run counter to the goals of a non-profit personal finance entity.

There may be topics of a more trivial nature, but even the car wash question brings to mind personal finance issues of maintenance and upkeep of one's possessions, and trade-offs one might make between ultimate frugality and spending a reasonable amount on "wants".
I am sure that I will not win much support by my coments, but the fact that many enjoy the topic of car washing in a forum that was specifically formed to deal with investments does not mean at all that it should be part of thus forum. Recently there was a healthy discussion on the type of guns to own. I think that cars and guns deserve to be addressed in a more relevant medium as much as I think that these topics negatively impact what we are trying to accomplish here.
It seems like we have different definitions of what this forum is trying to accomplish. I see it as promoting wise use of money in all areas of one's life (e.g. comprehensive financial literacy in one's personal finances), which would include both investing and consumer purchases like $5000 watches, cars, houses, and even guns. Perhaps you see it as just investing, in which case we'll have to agree to disagree.
Unfortunately, you may be right now, but when it started, many years ago, still under Morningstar, it was intended as a serious forum based on Markowitz concepts (Noble Prize 1970), i.e., the application of Modern Pirtfolio Theory, which eventually Bogle incorporated into his passive investment philosophy.
What you are referring is new and unrelated to the original mission.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by pennstater2005 » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:22 pm

harrychan wrote:Ability to highlight the OP in the responses would be a great addition. I hate having to go back to page 1 first post to see who the OP was then scroll through to find responses or updates.
That's a good idea.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by retiredjg » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:49 pm

pennstater2005 wrote:
harrychan wrote:Ability to highlight the OP in the responses would be a great addition. I hate having to go back to page 1 first post to see who the OP was then scroll through to find responses or updates.
That's a good idea.
I think it is a good idea too, as long as it does not cost much. Or anything. I suspect it does though.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by tennisplyr » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:55 pm

island wrote:
miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
Why? If someone asks for an opinion that boils down to an either/or, looking for a consensus response, or favorite brand of something, and a poster is in agreement with what's already been posted then why not do a +1 rather than take the time and space to blabber on basically the same thing.
+1
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Fallible » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:10 pm

Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:
Mudpuppy wrote:
Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
And yet many others find value in the Consumer forum, as evidenced by the vocal outcry when it was temporarily suspended several years ago while the admins determined if the forum would run counter to the goals of a non-profit personal finance entity.

There may be topics of a more trivial nature, but even the car wash question brings to mind personal finance issues of maintenance and upkeep of one's possessions, and trade-offs one might make between ultimate frugality and spending a reasonable amount on "wants".
I am sure that I will not win much support by my coments, but the fact that many enjoy the topic of car washing in a forum that was specifically formed to deal with investments does not mean at all that it should be part of thus forum. Recently there was a healthy discussion on the type of guns to own. I think that cars and guns deserve to be addressed in a more relevant medium as much as I think that these topics negatively impact what we are trying to accomplish here.
It seems like we have different definitions of what this forum is trying to accomplish. I see it as promoting wise use of money in all areas of one's life (e.g. comprehensive financial literacy in one's personal finances), which would include both investing and consumer purchases like $5000 watches, cars, houses, and even guns. Perhaps you see it as just investing, in which case we'll have to agree to disagree.
This is also the way I see it. Being a Boglehead, as expressed in the Bogleheads' philosophy, goes beyond investing and into how well we save and spend our money. It's that simple - simple as the Bogleheads' philosophy.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by protagonist » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:14 pm

I don't have any serious complaints at all.

It would be nice if it was easier to delete one's own posts, even after others have responded. There have been multiple times when I posted something, then realized for whatever reason that I wanted to delete it, and it was too late (most often accidental duplicate posts). That would also potentially make it easier to adhere to forum rules, if, for instance, one posts something and then has later reservations as to whether it conforms to the guidelines.

It would also be nice if there was a simpler way to quote other authors when responding. The current method works fine, but it gets a bit confusing when, for instance, there are multiple embedded posts, or when you want to quote more than one person. Perhaps it is the best possible already.

A simpler way to copy and paste an image (maybe drag and drop?) would also be welcome.

These are little tweaks, and I appreciate that it may take more expense and/or manpower to correct them than is warranted. If so, just ignore....I'm basically happy.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by protagonist » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:25 pm

Miriam2 wrote:
patriciamgr2 wrote:Huge shout out to administrators--we don't thank you enough for the extraordinary work you do. Thank you!
I agree a million times over for maintaining this wonderful forum that has improved the financial lives of so many. :D :D
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by protagonist » Sat Aug 20, 2016 8:41 pm

retiredjg wrote:Perhaps some language near the google box to the effect of…

"Have a question? Research it here first!"
I have no problem with repeating information for people.

This would most often affect newbies, with a lot of general questions that have probably been answered several times in the past.

That said, do you want to make said newbie (or non-newbie for that matter) rummage through perhaps hundreds of pages of old posts to find a simple answer? We have all been there I think, at one time or another (perhaps in some other forum).

I would rather just give him/her the answer again, especially if it is concise, or provide the reference. It is the decent thing to do. It can be very frustrating and time-consuming to find a simple answer to a common question in the archives of a huge forum like this, and that is especially true for those not familiar with navigating the site. One thing I like most about this forum is how nice and patient people are here, compared with some other sites. Empathy is a wonderful thing.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by TimeRunner » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:29 pm

Erwin wrote:Things like whatever you wash your car by yourself or not are absolutely not part of the reason this forum was conceived. In my view it degrades the excellent input of many on investments.
The thread on instant vs "regular" oatmeal is one I am happy to ignore. viewtopic.php?f=11&t=197822 :D
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Post by LadyGeek » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:21 am

The site owners decide on allowable topics, which is described in the Forum Policies (Acceptable Topics and Subforum Guidelines).

Personal Consumer Issues are specifically permitted. The rationale for deviating from a "pure" investing forum is that investing is a complicated topic. For those who don't understand investing, consumer issues provide a way to encourage people to start posting here. The hope is that once members become comfortable with consumer topics, they'll gain confidence to start asking about investing.

I will also explain that it is the moderators' job to enforce forum policy, regardless of the topic. I have removed a post which criticized the rationale for discussing consumer issues from this thread: How much do you spend on coffee/tea? See Member Rights in a Dispute, 2nd paragraph. If you don't agree with a topic, then simply do not post in that thread.

Moderator resources are very limited, which is a major reason we don't permit politics, religion, economic policy, etc.

The points about consumer issues have been made. Let's move on.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by harrychan » Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:11 am

retiredjg wrote:
pennstater2005 wrote:
harrychan wrote:Ability to highlight the OP in the responses would be a great addition. I hate having to go back to page 1 first post to see who the OP was then scroll through to find responses or updates.
That's a good idea.
I think it is a good idea too, as long as it does not cost much. Or anything. I suspect it does though.
It should be just a simple plugin for phpbb.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mudpuppy » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:01 pm

harrychan wrote:It should be just a simple plugin for phpbb.
I hate to sound like an old IT curmudgeon, but rarely is there such a thing as a "simple" plugin.

Yes, phpBB has the functionality for highlighting built into it, but changing all the links to have the "hilit=" option in the URL if the user has asked for that feature (because not all users will want that feature) may not be so simple.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by LadyGeek » Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:57 pm

A request to identify the OP of a topic was asked for here: Re: Forum software upgrade bug reports and change requests, there is no plugin available for this version of the phpBB software.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Miriam2 » Sun Aug 21, 2016 3:20 pm

Regarding our fabulous wiki :happy
Sometimes it is frustrating using the wiki search box and I wish for an index or table of contents.
Apparently there is an index, I just never knew where it was = the "complete article list"

On the wiki home page, scroll down to "Can't find what you're looking for?" and there will be a link to the "complete article list" which brings up an alphabetical list of wiki articles, which link to the specific article! The index is not called an index or table of contents, it's called "All pages."

I may not be the only person who missed this index. Perhaps this link could be re-named "Index of Articles" and also a link called "index" could be included on the more visible left hand side of the wiki home page, along with the "site navigation" and "recent changes" column. It may make it easier for viewers to find articles in the wiki.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by TimeRunner » Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:30 pm

I would like a feature to either bookmark, notify, or subscribe to a post (which presumably becomes a thread) AUTOMATICALLY based on OP. For example, I would subscribe to postings by:
Jack Bogle
Bill Bernstein
Christine Benz
Rick Ferri
Allan Roth
Mike Piper
Taylor Larimore
Laura Dogu
Mel Lindauer
LadyGeek
MichDad (a fellow Fed in the same boat as me)
VIctoria

That would be a really cool feature. :beer
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by grabiner » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:18 pm

TimeRunner wrote:I would like a feature to either bookmark, notify, or subscribe to a post (which presumably becomes a thread) AUTOMATICALLY based on OP.
While you can't do it automatically, you can create a bookmarked search. Click on the wheel next to the search bar to go to the advanced search; you can then search by author in the first post of topics only.

I use this occasionally when I want to look up a thread I started, in order to refer to it in a different thread.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by TimeRunner » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:45 pm

grabiner wrote:
TimeRunner wrote:I would like a feature to either bookmark, notify, or subscribe to a post (which presumably becomes a thread) AUTOMATICALLY based on OP.
While you can't do it automatically, you can create a bookmarked search. Click on the wheel next to the search bar to go to the advanced search; you can then search by author in the first post of topics only.

I use this occasionally when I want to look up a thread I started, in order to refer to it in a different thread.
Thanks, not as automatic, but nice to know. I'd add you to my list, btw. :D
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by pondering » Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:01 pm

I've cleaned up my wiki some, there were some trademark issues.

I keep a list of interesting links from this forum here: https://sterbalssundrystudies.miraheze. ... .org_links

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by traveltoomuch » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:21 pm

rongos wrote: I think this is something Bogleheads is missing compared to other good forums that have this feature. They have a way to applaud a good post, a way to show that you strongly agree with what a poster says, a way to give support or to promote what someone else said, without having to respond "+1". A certain other forum shows a green bar that grows longer and longer every time someone votes on it, or a red bar when enough people down vote it. In this way, people won't have to say "+1", they can click a vote button, and other people will see that what this person said is very popular or has a high approval rating.
This is something I would very much like to see, also.

+1. :-)

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Post by LadyGeek » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:19 pm

:thumbsdown There won't be a "like" button. See: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by siamond » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:20 pm

Miriam2 wrote:Regarding our fabulous wiki :happy
Sometimes it is frustrating using the wiki search box and I wish for an index or table of contents.
Apparently there is an index, I just never knew where it was = the "complete article list"

On the wiki home page, scroll down to "Can't find what you're looking for?" and there will be a link to the "complete article list" which brings up an alphabetical list of wiki articles, which link to the specific article! The index is not called an index or table of contents, it's called "All pages."

I may not be the only person who missed this index. Perhaps this link could be re-named "Index of Articles" and also a link called "index" could be included on the more visible left hand side of the wiki home page, along with the "site navigation" and "recent changes" column. It may make it easier for viewers to find articles in the wiki.
Regarding our fabulous Miriam2... :wink:
==> I totally agree with you, great points.

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mel Lindauer » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:32 pm

siamond wrote:
Miriam2 wrote:Regarding our fabulous wiki :happy
Sometimes it is frustrating using the wiki search box and I wish for an index or table of contents.
Apparently there is an index, I just never knew where it was = the "complete article list"

On the wiki home page, scroll down to "Can't find what you're looking for?" and there will be a link to the "complete article list" which brings up an alphabetical list of wiki articles, which link to the specific article! The index is not called an index or table of contents, it's called "All pages."

I may not be the only person who missed this index. Perhaps this link could be re-named "Index of Articles" and also a link called "index" could be included on the more visible left hand side of the wiki home page, along with the "site navigation" and "recent changes" column. It may make it easier for viewers to find articles in the wiki.
Regarding our fabulous Miriam2... :wink:
==> I totally agree with you, great points.
FWIW, I agree with both of you. The Word "Index" or "Table of Contents" would be nice.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by StevieG72 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:44 pm

Highlight or flag OP in threads.

Sometimes OP gets lost in lenghthy threads. I sometimes like to check in and see the OP's response but have to wade through lots of replies to find the OP.

Keep in mind that this site is maintained by volunteers!

Thanks to everyone that works to maintain this site!

I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs of the work involved, but I have caught bits and pieces of the process and some folks are working hard in the background to keep this site up and running.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by sawhorse » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:34 pm

Please allow the ability to create tables in the threads. I know there's a code box, but it's nothing like inserting a table.

I can't think of a forum that would benefit more from this feature.

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Post by LadyGeek » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:47 pm

Miriam2 wrote:Regarding our fabulous wiki :happy
Sometimes it is frustrating using the wiki search box and I wish for an index or table of contents.
Apparently there is an index, I just never knew where it was = the "complete article list"

On the wiki home page, scroll down to "Can't find what you're looking for?" and there will be a link to the "complete article list" which brings up an alphabetical list of wiki articles, which link to the specific article! The index is not called an index or table of contents, it's called "All pages."

I may not be the only person who missed this index. Perhaps this link could be re-named "Index of Articles" and also a link called "index" could be included on the more visible left hand side of the wiki home page, along with the "site navigation" and "recent changes" column. It may make it easier for viewers to find articles in the wiki.
I had the pleasure of meeting miriam2 at the recent Bogleheads Conference, who made a very convincing argument to make this change. :)

The wiki has been updated. First, the name has been changed from "All pages" to "Index of articles".*

Next, the wiki's left-side menu has been revised to add "Index of articles" in the top section. Recent changes has been moved to the "For wiki editors" section.

* Wikipedia uses sentence capitalization, meaning only the first letter of the title is capitalized.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Miriam2 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:17 pm

I think the new wiki Index of Articles is pretty neat, but then, I'm pretty old-school 8-)
The wiki has grown with many useful articles and the Index of articles may help readers find articles they did not know were there :happy

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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by Mel Lindauer » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:34 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Miriam2 wrote:Regarding our fabulous wiki :happy
Sometimes it is frustrating using the wiki search box and I wish for an index or table of contents.
Apparently there is an index, I just never knew where it was = the "complete article list"

On the wiki home page, scroll down to "Can't find what you're looking for?" and there will be a link to the "complete article list" which brings up an alphabetical list of wiki articles, which link to the specific article! The index is not called an index or table of contents, it's called "All pages."

I may not be the only person who missed this index. Perhaps this link could be re-named "Index of Articles" and also a link called "index" could be included on the more visible left hand side of the wiki home page, along with the "site navigation" and "recent changes" column. It may make it easier for viewers to find articles in the wiki.
I had the pleasure of meeting miriam2 at the recent Bogleheads Conference, who made a very convincing argument to make this change. :)

The wiki has been updated. First, the name has been changed from "All pages" to "Index of articles".*

Next, the wiki's left-side menu has been revised to add "Index of articles" in the top section. Recent changes has been moved to the "For wiki editors" section.

* Wikipedia uses sentence capitalization, meaning only the first letter of the title is capitalized.
Thanks, LadyGeek. I can now find things! :D
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by retiredjg » Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:19 am

I knew the Wiki was pretty big….but oh my goodness! It's huge!

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Post by Peculiar_Investor » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:04 am

LadyGeek wrote:The wiki has been updated. First, the name has been changed from "All pages" to "Index of articles".
Minor point of clarification. Articles in italic are redirects, not standalone articles. There is a checkbox to hide the redirects, and the direct link is Index of articles
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by LadyGeek » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:03 pm

Good point, but I think hiding redirects may cause readers to miss articles.

Redirects are wiki terminology for a short name, abbreviation, or acronym that point to the full article name. They are primarily intended for the wiki's search box.

For example, typing "UTMA" in the wiki's search box (upper right corner) will redirect to Uniform Gift to Minors Act.
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Re: Improving the Bogleheads forum

Post by sawhorse » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:52 pm

rongos wrote:
island wrote:
miles monroe wrote:automatically get rid of +1.
Why? If someone asks for an opinion that boils down to an either/or, looking for a consensus response, or favorite brand of something, and a poster is in agreement with what's already been posted then why not do a +1 rather than take the time and space to blabber on basically the same thing.
I think this is something Bogleheads is missing compared to other good forums that have this feature. They have a way to applaud a good post, a way to show that you strongly agree with what a poster says, a way to give support or to promote what someone else said, without having to respond "+1". A certain other forum shows a green bar that grows longer and longer every time someone votes on it, or a red bar when enough people down vote it. In this way, people won't have to say "+1", they can click a vote button, and other people will see that what this person said is very popular or has a high approval rating.
Instead of a like button how about agree and disagree buttons. As noted, this is a good way to gauge consensus opinion without +1 posts.

This is different from a like button because I might like a post because it's thoughtful and well written, but that doesn't mean I agree with it.

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