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A way to "thank" posts

Post by ERguy101 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:06 pm

[Thread merged into here, see below. --admin LadyGeek]

Just curious if yall can do an addon where you can "thank" or "like" a post. So many posts here are excellent, and I want to tell the poster thank you, but it's overboard to write a whole post. A simple "Like" button would be great, and the "likes" would be tallied under the post. I would avoid any kind of "dislike" button that would convey a negative attitude. Just allows us to say thank you and then move on.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Sandtrap » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:18 pm

How to thank someone without needing a "like" button.

Do it like this:
(Reply in thread)
"Great post. Thanks! :D"

Or, send a PM to the poster.
Something like this:
"Great post. Thanks! :D "
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by srt7 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:21 pm

Excellent idea! Especially to exclude any type of "dislike" which is useless feedback most of the time.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Goal33 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:01 am

I fear it would reward snark.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by LFS1234 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:22 am

Goal33 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:01 am
I fear it would reward snark.
+1

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by F150HD » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:26 am

I suggested nearly this exact item a year ago as a diff forum I use has a 'thanks' button.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by stlutz » Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:14 am

Send an IM. A personal thank you means a lot more than a Facebook-style like.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by oldcomputerguy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:32 am

The issue of a "like" button has been brought up in the past. There is a long discussion of this subject (and why the forum owners are not in favor of such a button) in this thread.

If you would like to express appreciation for a particularly helpful post, a simple "Thanks for the great information" post would be fine, that's been done countless times here.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by aerosurfer » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:07 am

Please DONT ever add a like button or anything else that's just tallying clicks. That adds nothing but a social media element to an otherwise useful discussion.

If you want to agree or thank someone, just make a post doing so.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by samsoes » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:04 am

Goal33 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:01 am
I fear it would reward snark.
Complete agree. The snark-factor has been rising steadily in recent months, to the degree where I've seen posts where the poster starts with something like "please be kind" before the question is presented.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by KlangFool » Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:45 am

aerosurfer wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:07 am
Please DONT ever add a like button or anything else that's just tallying clicks. That adds nothing but a social media element to an otherwise useful discussion.

If you want to agree or thank someone, just make a post doing so.
+1,000.

Simple and easy is not the proper way to thank someone. If the amount of effort of writing a post and/or message is too much, don't do it.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by whodidntante » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:05 am

I am uncomfortable with this change and any other changes. Please keep the 90's era brutalist text interface with no color choices. This is the correct interface for a website. I am not yet ready for 2009's "like" button technology. Besides, I've noticed that suggestions rarely come with a bag of money.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Sandtrap » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:41 am

KlangFool wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 6:45 am
aerosurfer wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:07 am
Please DONT ever add a like button or anything else that's just tallying clicks. That adds nothing but a social media element to an otherwise useful discussion.

If you want to agree or thank someone, just make a post doing so.
+1,000.

Simple and easy is not the proper way to thank someone. If the amount of effort of writing a post and/or message is too much, don't do it.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Accrual » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:49 am

Send a PM. I would stop visiting this website if such Facebook-esque 'features' were ever implemented.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by jebmke » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:03 am

Accrual wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:49 am
Send a PM. I would stop visiting this website if such Facebook-esque 'features' were ever implemented.
I think a lot of people would leave the site.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by EddyB » Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:46 am

jebmke wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:03 am
Accrual wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:49 am
Send a PM. I would stop visiting this website if such Facebook-esque 'features' were ever implemented.
I think a lot of people would leave the site.
In the long run, a lot of people will leave the site in any case, and an increasing portion of the potential new audience won’t be put off by (and will be accustomed to) social media features.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by adamthesmythe » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:18 am

Accrual wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:49 am
Send a PM. I would stop visiting this website if such Facebook-esque 'features' were ever implemented.
No. Use a PM to send a gift card.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by topper1296 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am

Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by mervinj7 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:39 am

topper1296 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am
Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.
You can "subscribe" a topic if you want to keep track of it. That way, you get notified for any new posts. Go the the very top of the post, hit the button that looks like a wrench and hit subscribe topic. There's also an option to bookmark posts, which I like better.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by MotoTrojan » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:51 am

stlutz wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 1:14 am
Send an IM. A personal thank you means a lot more than a Facebook-style like.
*Liked*... erm I mean agreed.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Silk McCue » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:54 am

mervinj7 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:39 am
topper1296 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am
Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.
You can "subscribe" a topic if you want to keep track of it. That way, you get notified for any new posts. Go the the very top of the post, hit the button that looks like a wrench and hit subscribe topic. There's also an option to bookmark posts, which I like better.
Thanks mervinj7. I was just testing Bookmark out for topper1296 and was notified of your post as a result. It is nice that you can go to your Control Panel and see all bookmarked posts as some may be older posts that I find of value but for which future replies are less likely.

Cheers

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by celia » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am

Please don't add a new post saying "thanks" or "great post" unless you are the original poster and want to acknowledge your question was answered. I cringe to think of an excellent post that is followed by 100 "Thanks" or "Great post" unless they add an additional comment to extend the topic further (for example, another reason why OP should consider this or that).
topper1296 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am
Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.
Or you can bookmark the page. I've even started (browser) bookmark folders for various topics that I may want to return to in the future: housing, SS, travel, etc

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by S&L1940 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:19 am

jebmke wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:03 am
Accrual wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:49 am
Send a PM. I would stop visiting this website if such Facebook-esque 'features' were ever implemented.
I think a lot of people would leave the site.
Agree, thanks for the comment
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Fallible » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:18 pm

oldcomputerguy wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:32 am
The issue of a "like" button has been brought up in the past. There is a long discussion of this subject (and why the forum owners are not in favor of such a button) in this thread.

If you would like to express appreciation for a particularly helpful post, a simple "Thanks for the great information" post would be fine, that's been done countless times here.
Agree.

Also, thanking a poster is more meaningful if reasons for it are included, since it is possible to thank someone for the wrong reasons (e.g., because their post was misunderstood).
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by CommitmentDevice » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:26 pm

Like button or no like button? I don't know.
What I do know is that Bogleheads.org has achieved something rare and valuable... insightful, authentic engagement. SOMETHING about the way this community is structured is working quite well, and I'm inclined to think that the current forum design is contributing to that positive community culture.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by whodidntante » Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:38 pm

CommitmentDevice wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Like button or no like button? I don't know.
What I do know is that Bogleheads.org has achieved something rare and valuable... insightful, authentic engagement. SOMETHING about the way this community is structured is working quite well, and I'm inclined to think that the current forum design is contributing to that positive community culture.
I view the site as an immune response to Edward Jones, Morgan Stanley, Raymond James, high-cost 401ks, and every other way that investors get separated from their money. We also talk about water heaters.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by LadyGeek » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:51 pm

I merged ERguy101's thread into the on-going discussion.

We will not be adding a "like" button.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Sandtrap » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:55 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:51 pm
I merged ERguy101's thread into the on-going discussion.

We will not be adding a "like" button.
Thanks!
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Tycoon » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:09 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
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The short answer is that there will not be any "like" button in this forum.
Good call!
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Silence Dogood » Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:03 pm

I'm glad that we won't be adding a "like" button.

Why would we want to be more like Facebook/Reddit?

Bogleheads.org is better than both of those sites.

I think that "like" buttons incentivize bad behavior.

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by Elric » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:55 pm

celia wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:56 am
Please don't add a new post saying "thanks" or "great post" unless you are the original poster and want to acknowledge your question was answered. I cringe to think of an excellent post that is followed by 100 "Thanks" or "Great post"
:thumbsup If only there was some minimalist way of doing so, taking up very little space and not cluttering up a thread. Some simple icon and count system. I don't know what that could possibly be, but maybe we could call it a "Like Button." Too bad we lack the technology.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by mchampse » Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:56 pm

I’ll say me piece on this...

I think there should be a “like”, “agree”, “thumbs up” or whatever button.

My rationale is that many threads (this one being a prime example) end up having a lot of posters basically saying the same thing. Some kind of “agree” button would give people an outlet to agree with another poster without creating more posts. The real estate posts tend to do the same where a whole bunch of people give the same reasons as to why they think real estate is a bad investment and similarly many of the reasons why it’s good tend to get repeated.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by tooluser » Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:51 pm

For particularly useful information that one likes, one should consider condensing and clarifying it and getting it into the Wiki. That is a great place for consistently useful ideas to live in and be more easily found.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by sixtyforty » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:09 am

Please don’t add a “like” button. And may we let this thread quietly disappear.
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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by nexesn » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:42 am

mervinj7 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:39 am
topper1296 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am
Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.
You can "subscribe" a topic if you want to keep track of it. That way, you get notified for any new posts. Go the the very top of the post, hit the button that looks like a wrench and hit subscribe topic. There's also an option to bookmark posts, which I like better.

I "Like" this :D . In seriousness, thanks for the info. Had no idea you could subscribe to a topic. Even though I've been reading Bogleheads.org for 1.5 years, I'd say I'm still a total newbie :happy :happy

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Re: A way to "thank" posts

Post by mervinj7 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:34 am

nexesn wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:42 am
mervinj7 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:39 am
topper1296 wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:30 am
Personally, I wish there was a way to "track" a thread. Currently, the only way I know is make a comment (even if I don't really have anything to contribute) so I can "view my posts" later.
You can "subscribe" a topic if you want to keep track of it. That way, you get notified for any new posts. Go the the very top of the post, hit the button that looks like a wrench and hit subscribe topic. There's also an option to bookmark posts, which I like better.

I "Like" this :D . In seriousness, thanks for the info. Had no idea you could subscribe to a topic. Even though I've been reading Bogleheads.org for 1.5 years, I'd say I'm still a total newbie :happy :happy
No problem. I have a few dozen topics that I keep bookmarked for handy references. For example, Kevin M's post on Tax Equivalent Yields is indispensable.

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