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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by LadyGeek » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:57 pm

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^^^ :)

I merged Tico_75's thread into here.

The answer is still no.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Mel Lindauer » Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:00 pm

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^^^ :)

I merged Tico_75's thread into here.

The answer is still no.


And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Fallible » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:08 pm

Mel Lindauer wrote:
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^^^ :)

I merged Tico_75's thread into here.

The answer is still no.


And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.


I LIKE that. :thumbsup
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:34 pm

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A suggestion [to add a "like" button at every post]

Post by BogleMelon » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:48 am

[Thread merged into here, see below. --admin LadyGeek]

I would love to see this little function added to this amazing forum. A voting button with a thumb up or + at after every post, so that the good answers posts can be visibly distinguished from moderate answers.
Thanks!
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Re: A suggestion

Post by Sidney » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:50 am

This has come up several times before and been rejected by the forum owners.
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Re: A suggestion

Post by BogleMelon » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:53 am

Sidney wrote:This has come up several times before and been rejected by the forum owners.

Oh, I didn't know! but this is sad :(
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Re: A suggestion

Post by Peculiar_Investor » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:54 am

Sidney wrote:This has come up several times before and been rejected by the forum owners.

Read this post by Alex for the full explanation.
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Re: A suggestion

Post by jf89 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:01 am

You start to figure out who the better commenters are as you see their names over and over again. You can also look to the right (desktop website only) and see that I only have 200-some posts. Not that impressive and you probably shouldn't take what I say as the end-all be-all of advice you get. Livesoft on the other hand, I think I just saw a thread saying they're nearing 50,000. You should generally listen to someone that's stuck around that long and posts that frequently.

The other big advantage of this site is that there are so many active posters. On other forums when you post a question you maybe get a few scattered responses, so you have no clue if the advice you're getting is sound or not. Here, you'll get quite a few responses and can start to piece together where people generally agree and where there are some differences.
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Re: A suggestion

Post by goingup » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:11 am

BogleMelon wrote:I would love to this a little function added to this amazing forum. A voting button with a thumb up or + at after every post, so that the good answers posts can be visibly distinguished from moderate answers.
Thanks!

:thumbsdown I don't think it's needed, but you can find the thumbs by clicking on "View more smiles" beneath the emojis. :wink:

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by LadyGeek » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:14 pm

I merged BogleMelon's question into here, which is the previous discussion referenced by Peculiar_Investor.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by oldcomputerguy » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:22 pm

Mel Lindauer wrote:
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^^^ :)

I merged Tico_75's thread into here.

The answer is still no.


And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.


Now that's what I call "staying the course."
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:20 pm

It would be interesting to set up a Facebook group for the bogleheads to see how the discussion changes with the different format.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by LadyGeek » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:33 pm

The Facebook group is here: Bogleheads.org | Facebook

The link is on the left side-bar of every wiki page.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:11 pm

That is a Facebook page, not a group.

For instance I co-admin this group about CBS Sunday Morning:

https://m.facebook.com/groups/132055125180
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Christian NY » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:01 am

As an alternative, add a button for "Reputation" that you can click (+1) then people with high enough reputation get cool titles like "Super Investor" and cool avatars :mrgreen:

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by LadyGeek » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:07 am

:thumbsdown

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by legio XX » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:38 pm

Mel Lindauer wrote:
LadyGeek wrote:
The answer is still no.
And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.
Good. :beer

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by mindboggling » Sat Apr 22, 2017 4:00 pm

If you like or dislike a post, please take a few moments of your time to express yourself in standard English. The more detail, the better.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by 2015 » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:04 pm

Christian NY wrote:As an alternative, add a button for "Reputation" that you can click (+1) then people with high enough reputation get cool titles like "Super Investor" and cool avatars :mrgreen:
Edited to add: I just reread this, and I think you were kidding (???). But my response applies equally to any sort of "voting" function such as "likes".

Sure, why not? I've always liked appeal to authority bias, as well as the overconfidence and confirmation biases that go along with it. Isn't there enough of that in mainstream media as it is? One of the main benefits of this site for me is the opposing viewpoints on just about everything, which continually forces me to think and "stress test" my assumptions, while serving as a circuit breaker against blindly following anyone with a "reputation".

As to adding a "like" button, please don't.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by zuma » Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:41 pm

I'm against it.

I think adding a "like" button would skew the incentives that motivate people to contribute. An online community that's encouraged to generate "liked" content -- regardless of accuracy or relevance -- is not necessarily a good thing IMO.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Kitty Telltales » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:29 am

LadyGeek wrote:The Facebook group is here: Bogleheads.org | Facebook

The link is on the left side-bar of every wiki page.
Just got a little satisfaction going to the link and "liking" the facebook page.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Munir » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:50 am

legio XX wrote:
Mel Lindauer wrote:
LadyGeek wrote:
The answer is still no.
And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.
Good. :beer

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by 10YearPlan » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:36 pm

Personally, I would appreciate a LIKE button and find it ironic that we're open to emojis but LIKE buttons are for 12 year olds. That said, other than emojis there is a certain old-school charm about this forum's UI (and many of its participants) that give it a sense of charm. Perhaps even an air of credibility.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Mel Lindauer » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:56 pm

Munir wrote:
legio XX wrote:
Mel Lindauer wrote:
LadyGeek wrote:
The answer is still no.
And it will be "NO" tomm. and next year and the year after that for all eternity. It ain't gonna happen. Period.
Good. :beer

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Mel, as usual, you are being too subtle. Can you please be more clear? :happy
I just didn't want to be the bad guy, so I was trying to be as subtle as possible. 8-)
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by JupiterJones » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:07 pm

2015 wrote:But my response applies equally to any sort of "voting" function such as "likes".
+1
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pennstater2005 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:34 pm

10YearPlan wrote:Personally, I would appreciate a LIKE button and find it ironic that we're open to emojis but LIKE buttons are for 12 year olds.
Glad to see my comment from 4.5 years ago still holds some weight :thumbsup (Is the thumbs up an emoji :?: )
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by TimeRunner » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:14 pm

JupiterJones wrote:
2015 wrote:But my response applies equally to any sort of "voting" function such as "likes".
+1
I see what you did there. :happy
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:13 pm

There are a lot of vocal people not all that interested in trying something new.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by zuma » Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:54 am

pondering wrote:There are a lot of vocal people not all that interested in trying something new.
Including the forum admins, who have compelling reasons to not try the new thing in question. :)

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:46 am

It is nice to see Alex back to posting on the Bogleheads.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Earl Lemongrab » Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:38 pm

pondering wrote:There are a lot of vocal people not all that interested in trying something new.
I guess I'm not too thrilled with the indication that, "if you don't like this thing that I want added then you're some sort of stick-in-the-mud." Many of us have used a variety of forums, so this isn't "something new". It's a thing we've seen a lot and don't care for or don't think will be advantageous for this forum.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:14 pm

Even getting an option for the Home tag on every page being user selectable (the default works very poorly in Safari) was turned down.

The current crowd here is self selected. They like things the way they are. A like button has multiple uses. As a lighter form of engagement it is particularly suitable to mobile use.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Silk McCue » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:20 pm

pondering wrote:Even getting an option for the Home tag on every page being user selectable (the default works very poorly in Safari) was turned down.

The current crowd here is self selected. They like things the way they are. A like button has multiple uses. As a lighter form of engagement it is particularly suitable to mobile use.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:30 pm

I think an active exchange of ideas about design and an honest look at how you deliver a service is a meaningful conversation to have.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by gkaplan » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:54 pm

We are having an active exchange. We don't want a "like" button.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:03 pm

I don't like the tone of this comment:

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Silk McCue » Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:10 pm

pondering wrote:I think an active exchange of ideas about design and an honest look at how you deliver a service is a meaningful conversation to have.
This thread is 4 1/2 years old and the same message of "why not" has been explained and consistently delivered.

In reply to your most recent post there is no tone. Just a cultural reference to describe the futility of the post. I could have used Don Quixote but I really like Jim Croce.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by Mudpuppy » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:43 am

The admin have constantly said that if a feature isn't supported in the base phpBB software, it's not going to be implemented here. So it seems the prudent thing to do would be to wander over to the phpBB forums and make the feature request. Making the feature request here is about as useful as complaining to a grocery store clerk about the ingredients in a box of cereal.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by FrugalInvestor » Fri Apr 28, 2017 12:50 am

Dislike the idea of a like button. :annoyed This is a very different sort of site than Facebook and I'd like it to stay that way (no pun intended).
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by zuma » Fri Apr 28, 2017 2:36 am

pondering wrote: Even getting an option for the Home tag on every page being user selectable (the default works very poorly in Safari) was turned down.

The current crowd here is self selected. They like things the way they are. A like button has multiple uses. As a lighter form of engagement it is particularly suitable to mobile use.
A like button could have multiple uses, however the benefits of such a feature do not outweigh the drawbacks according to the people who manage the site. Namely, they are worried about how introducing social feedback systems like this can influence the behaviors of a community in unintended ways. I respect their decision and happen to agree with them too. If you don't agree, consider addressing the core argument to make your case. Suggesting that we're "not all that interested in trying something new" doesn't seem fair to me.
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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by GoldenFinch » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:34 am

I'm grateful that this site fosters education and community and not popularity.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by pondering » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:43 am

The pejorative term used was yours, not mine. Several of them have been used here, and if I have used any, I'll correct my posts. Leaving name calling in a thread like this is inappropriate on both sides.

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Re: Why not add a "like" button to Boglehead posts?

Post by zuma » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:54 am

pondering wrote:The pejorative term used was yours, not mine. Several of them have been used here, and if I have used any, I'll correct my posts. Leaving name calling in a thread like this is inappropriate on both sides.
Fair point. I've updated my post. :)

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