2015 subaru forester 96k, replace or run into the ground?

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2015 subaru forester 96k, replace or run into the ground?

Post by gips » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm

Hi,

I have a 2015 subaru forester with 98k miles that I purchased in 2014, edmunds calls trade in value $10k, paid $24k. Typically we try for at least seven years for our cars but we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru and consumer reports gives it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.

sell and purchase or new one or try to get another 2-3 years?

best,

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Post by jucor » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:50 pm

OP,

You've owned this car for 5 years -- surely you have a good feeling as to whether or not it is reliable?

FWIW, 98K miles is fine, presuming you've done the needed maintenance. You should easily get another 3+ years out of it -- even a large ticket repair or two will leave you way ahead of the game.

Keep it.

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Post by Olemiss540 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:54 pm

Keep it. Another 3 years and then upgrade :moneybag :moneybag :moneybag
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Post by livesoft » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:00 pm

I have said the same thing about a 2006 Ford that my wife bought. It's the POS model. Unfortunately we still own it and it will probably reach 200,000 miles. Well, not all of it since many parts are strewn across Texas where they fell off while driving it. But the remaining pieces will probably make it.
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Post by johan_s » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:19 pm

gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
Hi,

I have a 2015 subaru forester with 98k miles that I purchased in 2014, edmunds calls trade in value $10k, paid $24k. Typically we try for at least seven years for our cars but we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru and consumer reports gives it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.

sell and purchase or new one or try to get another 2-3 years?

best,

We have a ‘13 Forester with 115K on it. We did have the short block replaced, at Subaru’s expense, due to excess oil consumption around 85K. Oil consumption is much better. Aside from brakes and other regular maintenance, we haven’t had any big maintenance surprises only just had to replace the rear struts. Given the beating they take on unpaved mountain roads here in Vermont, I’m surprised they went 115K before they started leaking. I’ve decided that I’m going to run mine into the ground. I really enjoy driving it, especially with snow tires in the winter. And it’s a manual, which is now discontinued on Foresters in the US. I’d ride it out a couple more years.

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Post by Nate79 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:45 pm

Keep it. It is practically still new. We have a 2010 Forester with 110k miles and plan to keep it at least another 3-5 years.

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Post by Ferdinand2014 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:47 pm

gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
Hi,

I have a 2015 subaru forester with 98k miles that I purchased in 2014, edmunds calls trade in value $10k, paid $24k. Typically we try for at least seven years for our cars but we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru and consumer reports gives it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.

sell and purchase or new one or try to get another 2-3 years?

best,
I have owned 5 Subaru’s. Current one ex-wife has. 162,000 miles. Normal maintenance. No issues. I’d vote keep it and follow the maintenance manual to the letter.

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Post by Watty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:57 pm

gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
I have a 2015 subaru forester with 98k miles that I purchased in 2014....
One thing to look at is the advances in safety features since 2014.

You drive a lot of miles and if you don't have a tight budget there is a lot to be said for getting a new car with a lot of the latest safety features.

I have not owned one but a lot of people have posted about having a good experience with Hyundais and they have a significantly longer warranty which might be good with as many miles as you drive.

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Post by Nate79 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:01 pm

I will say that the Eyesight and adaptive cruise control in our new Subaru Ascent is amazing.

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Post by gips » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:25 pm

thanks for the input, leaning towards keeping it, it has been very reliable. It does have eyesight and adaptive cruise control (the only extras I purchased) and it has been amazing...As I move towards my mid 60s, I wouldn't consider a car without it.

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Post by vtMaps » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:36 pm

When someone has an asset that they can’t decide whether to sell or hold, they should ask themselves whether they would buy it if they didn’t own it.

Would you buy your used Subaru today if it were for sale?

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Post by Retired1809 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:41 pm

Keep it! You've taken the depreciation hit and now you have the opportunity to enjoy low-cost, high-quality transportation.

The basis for my statement is our own experience. My wife bought her first Subaru Forester in 2004 and I bought my first Subaru Forester later that same year. I still have my 2004 Forester. The most expensive repair I've had was replacing a power steering pump (around $250 as I recall). The only other expenses we've had are usual routine maintenance.

It's the right car for a Boglehead. It comes without a heavy front-end load and has a very low annual expense ratio. And according to Consumer Reports and Edmonds, it has a very high owner satisfaction rating. I view an investment in a Subaru Forester as "High return, low risk."

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Post by maroon » Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:44 pm

Another vote to keep it. My 2010 Forester has ~122K miles and is doing great. :happy It's been a super reliable vehicle.

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Post by TheOscarGuy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:50 am

gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
Hi,

I have a 2015 subaru forester with 98k miles that I purchased in 2014, edmunds calls trade in value $10k, paid $24k. Typically we try for at least seven years for our cars but we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru and consumer reports gives it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.

sell and purchase or new one or try to get another 2-3 years?

best,
I have a car with same MY but at 73K (its a Honda). I consider it to be in its prime, and don't see it giving me any issues for next 10 years at the very least. I say keep it, unless it has given you troubles.

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Post by Glockenspiel » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:08 am

I’m not sure what the push is for you to consider replacing it right now. Is it just because it’s approaching 100k? The vehicle could easily last another 100k without any significant repairs. I would keep it and run it into the ground. Have you had anything go wrong with it, other than maintaining brakes, tires, and oil?

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Post by Rus In Urbe » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:16 am

We got the same car, same year, but haven't put as many miles on it. I vote to keep it too. This is our second Subaru and we have found them reliable, cost-efficient cars; not too many models one can say that about.

Barring anything unforeseen, we plan to keep ours another four years or so. And then we are moving to electric.
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Post by Dandy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:39 am

If you can afford it I would put a heavy weighting on safety. Does your existing Subaru have a decent number of safety features? e.g. emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, (and that feature where when you are backing up alerts you to cross traffic?).

Avoiding even a small accident is worth it. Health, expenses, inconvenience, paperwork, rate rise, etc. Avoiding a serious accident is obviously more critical.

You obviously put a lot of mileage on the car - makes sense, if you can afford it, to protect you and the family. I think the old frugal litmus test of how many years old my car is or how many miles I got on my car should be modified. A former badge of honor seems to need some careful thought as to when does safety out weigh savings.

People carry large umbrella insurance to protect against what is usually a rare need - but can involve injuring others in an auto accident but seem to ignore spending a few thousand on protecting their health, life and liabilities.

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Post by researcher » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:40 am

gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
I have a 2015 subaru forester...
we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru...
consumer reports gives [2015 Subaru] it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.
I'm curious...
If you had bad luck with your previous Subaru, why did you turn around and buy another Subaru for your next car?

This seems to be a trend among Subaru owners on this forum.

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Post by Olemiss540 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:45 am

Dandy wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:39 am
If you can afford it I would put a heavy weighting on safety. Does your existing Subaru have a decent number of safety features? e.g. emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, (and that feature where when you are backing up alerts you to cross traffic?).

Avoiding even a small accident is worth it. Health, expenses, inconvenience, paperwork, rate rise, etc. Avoiding a serious accident is obviously more critical.

You obviously put a lot of mileage on the car - makes sense, if you can afford it, to protect you and the family. I think the old frugal litmus test of how many years old my car is or how many miles I got on my car should be modified. A former badge of honor seems to need some careful thought as to when does safety out weigh savings.

People carry large umbrella insurance to protect against what is usually a rare need - but can involve injuring others in an auto accident but seem to ignore spending a few thousand on protecting their health, life and liabilities.
I am fairly sure a 4 YO Subaru is current enough safety would not have a material impact to ones decision.
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Re: 2015 subaru forester 96k, replace or run into the ground?

Post by simplesimon » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:09 am

Why do you want to replace it now?

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Post by Dandy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:20 am

I am fairly sure a 4 YO Subaru is current enough safety would not have a material impact to ones decision.
Subaru's are considered pretty safe vehicles in most cases. The specific safety features I mentioned were options, if they were available at all, I believe, at that time and some may still be optional. "enough" is in the eyes of the beholder - I agree.

Full disclosure I have a 2014 Subaru Forester and it did not have any of those safety features. And it wasn't the base model. My bad :oops: -- it won't happen again. I hesitate to gift my car to my children, who are driving older cars, some with my grandkids -- I rather gift them money to add those safety features to a new car purchase or a more recent used car that has them.

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Post by finite_difference » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:28 am

If you keep it, make sure you get the CVT serviced at the dealer as recommended by Subaru. For the 2015 Subaru, you are supposed to do a drain and fill of the CVT fluid at the dealer every 65k miles. Maybe you can go more than that, like 100k miles, but nonetheless I think it’s cheap insurance. At least much cheaper than replacing a CVT ($7k).
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Post by Glockenspiel » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:30 am

Rus In Urbe wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:16 am

Barring anything unforeseen, we plan to keep ours another four years or so. And then we are moving to electric.
I'm planning on the same with my 2009 Mazda6 with 104k miles on it. I just put new tires on it, so I want to keep it until the tires need to be replaced again, then I want to switch to electric. So I'm shooting for all these manufacturers to get more into the EV game, so I have more options to choose from.

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Post by gips » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:09 am

Glockenspiel wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:08 am
I’m not sure what the push is for you to consider replacing it right now. Is it just because it’s approaching 100k? The vehicle could easily last another 100k without any significant repairs. I would keep it and run it into the ground. Have you had anything go wrong with it, other than maintaining brakes, tires, and oil?
Yes, approaching 100k and that's when our last subaru started to fall apart. the car to date has been very reliable.
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Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:40 am
gips wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:43 pm
I have a 2015 subaru forester...
we didn't have a lot of luck with our last subaru...
consumer reports gives [2015 Subaru] it a 3 out of 5 for reliability.
I'm curious...
If you had bad luck with your previous Subaru, why did you turn around and buy another Subaru for your next car?

This seems to be a trend among Subaru owners on this forum.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. The last one we bought was 15 year ago, decided to give the brand another try because our kids were becoming drivers, we live in a hilly, snowy place and the car, when equipped with eyesight, tied for the highest govt safety ratings of all time.

thanks again for all the input, very useful!

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Post by Quirkz » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:43 am

I tend to think of 100k miles as just getting out of the teenage years an into adulthood for a car. I buy with the expectation I'll go over 200k.

I have heard a number of people, including mechanics, say that Subarus are notorious for having their transmission fall apart early, but after that's repaired the car will keep going for decades.

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