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Regret taking a new job

Post by wxz76 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm

I took a new job with a megacorp about a month ago as a software engineer. Before this job I was always working at customer site, far away from corporate. While waiting for access to the work on the contact I was hired for my manager asked me to help working on a proposal even though I told her I’m not qualify for this job. I told her I’ve never worked on a proposal and don’t even recall last time I read one but she insisted I give a try.

I'm now regretting taking this job because I'm afraid this is how megacorp works. I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.

My question is would this look bad on my resume if I quit after only 2 months? When I go for interviews what should I tell interviewers if they ask why I quit after only 2 months?

Thanks
WXZ

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by Dovahkiin » Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:50 pm

If you otherwise have diverse experience and live in an area with numerous companies then I'd leave the job off the resume completely should you decide to job hunt. A resume is your marketing materials to other prospective employers, not a permanent record of everywhere you've ever worked.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by wxz76 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:05 pm

Dovahkiin wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:50 pm
If you otherwise have diverse experience and live in an area with numerous companies then I'd leave the job off the resume completely should you decide to job hunt. A resume is your marketing materials to other prospective employers, not a permanent record of everywhere you've ever worked.
I had not thought about leaving it off my resume. Thanks.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by sport » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:21 pm

wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.
Apparently you do not know whether or not this will happen. Why don't you stick around at least a few more months to see how it plays out. IMO it is not a good idea to rush into such things.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by mariezzz » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:55 pm

sport wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:21 pm
wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.
Apparently you do not know whether or not this will happen. Why don't you stick around at least a few more months to see how it plays out. IMO it is not a good idea to rush into such things.
I'd look around for jobs. And apply to those that appeal most. You might end up sticking around for a few months, you might not.

But carefully consider why you're not liking the current role. It sounds like an opportunity to explore something you've never done before. That can be frightening, but you may end up liking it. It would be added experience for your resume.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by OldSport » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:09 am

wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
I took a new job with a megacorp about a month ago as a software engineer. Before this job I was always working at customer site, far away from corporate. While waiting for access to the work on the contact I was hired for my manager asked me to help working on a proposal even though I told her I’m not qualify for this job. I told her I’ve never worked on a proposal and don’t even recall last time I read one but she insisted I give a try.

I'm now regretting taking this job because I'm afraid this is how megacorp works. I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.

My question is would this look bad on my resume if I quit after only 2 months? When I go for interviews what should I tell interviewers if they ask why I quit after only 2 months?

Thanks
WXZ
This is just my opinion, but it sounds like an opportunity to learn a new skill and gain additional experience. I find it important to have a growth mindset and be open to new experiences. If you have no experience in something, try your best and have someone who knows what they're doing mentor you. Now if you haven't done any software engineering after 6 months on the job, that's a different story.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by fru-gal » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:17 am

I don't think one event of this type would cause me to leave. It also sounds like you have no work to do currently? So maybe she is trying to find something so you'll be productive.

Also, I think you are not a native English speaker, so run automatic correctors over the proposal or ask someone to proofread it.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by wxz76 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:44 am

Thanks to all the replies.
fru-gal wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:17 am
Also, I think you are not a native English speaker, so run automatic correctors over the proposal or ask someone to proofread it.
You’re correct English is my second language. It’s why I’ve been avoiding this type of task all my life. Just thinking about it stress me out.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by samsdad » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:58 am

wxz76 wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:44 am
Thanks to all the replies.
fru-gal wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:17 am
Also, I think you are not a native English speaker, so run automatic correctors over the proposal or ask someone to proofread it.
You’re correct English is my second language. It’s why I’ve been avoiding this type of task all my life. Just thinking about it stress me out.
Honestly, your English is better than many “native” speakers. I had to re-read your original post before I picked up on the possibility that you might not be a native speaker. You would be surprised many little words the human brain fills in for missing words and the like. I wouldn’t worry about it too much, but the suggestion for an auto correction or proofreading by someone else is perhaps a good idea.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by carolinaman » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:02 am

sport wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:21 pm
wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.
Apparently you do not know whether or not this will happen. Why don't you stick around at least a few more months to see how it plays out. IMO it is not a good idea to rush into such things.
+1. I agree. You need to give this job a little time to see how it will work out. The proposal might have been a one time request. I would recommend staying for 6 months before looking for another job unless things really get bad.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by k3vb0t » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:07 am

OldSport wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:09 am
This is just my opinion, but it sounds like an opportunity to learn a new skill and gain additional experience. I find it important to have a growth mindset and be open to new experiences. If you have no experience in something, try your best and have someone who knows what they're doing mentor you. Now if you haven't done any software engineering after 6 months on the job, that's a different story.
Came here to say this.

Perhaps your manager is trying to stretch you and your skills? Being able to both do the technical work and respond to RFPs makes you more valuable. It also, in theory, makes the RFP more accurate because it has someone involved that can do the work (so you avoid the “we told the customer we could do what?” scenarios).

The first thing I would do is ask the manager why you were involved and share your concerns about being a non-native English speaker. But I would try to have a growth mindset of being excited to learn something new and to be able to help the team.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by UpperNwGuy » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:14 am

wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
While waiting for access to the work on the contact I was hired for
What does this mean? Has your new employer hired you in anticipation of winning a contract that is still in competition? Or is it a contract that requires the workforce to have a security clearance that you don't yet have? In either case, the waiting might stretch out for a number of months. If either of these two situations are true, they should have factored into your decision to accept the job. Something to keep in mind for future job applications.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by stimulacra » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:49 am

Sounds like your manager was trying to see if you were up for a stretch assignment and/or was trying to make productive use of your downtime.

While waiting for access to the contract assignment, how were you spending your time at work?

If you're not doing billable work or work that drives the core business, then business development is a good utilization of ones time. I think your manager was simply doing her job.

Lastly, do you have any interest in moving outside of an individual contributor/technical track in your career? I would imagine a project or team lead would have to write proposals and reports pretty regularly. You might not be giving yourself sufficient room to grow or maneuver in your new organization.

What does a career path within your current megacorp look like given someone with your background and experience? What did your research suggest prior to taking on the new role? What was confirmed by your manager and/or onboarding team?

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by wxz76 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:57 am

stimulacra wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:49 am
While waiting for access to the contract assignment, how were you spending your time at work?
I was on billable hours until they decided for the next release the work would be on the part where I don't have access to yet.
stimulacra wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:49 am
Lastly, do you have any interest in moving outside of an individual contributor/technical track in your career? I would imagine a project or team lead would have to write proposals and reports pretty regularly. You might not be giving yourself sufficient room to grow or maneuver in your new organization.
I've been asked in previous jobs if I would like to eventually become a lead or manager but I know my limitations and don't see myself in a lead role ever. I also know how this limits my earnings and am okay with it.
stimulacra wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:49 am
What does a career path within your current megacorp look like given someone with your background and experience? What did your research suggest prior to taking on the new role? What was confirmed by your manager and/or onboarding team?
This is my 7 employers in the last 17 years. I knew exactly why they hired me and what they expect from me. Unfortunately this one is just different and I didn't do enough research before taking this role.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by jharkin » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:58 am

Why not give the proposal a try? Its sounds like you have been asked to assist... not go write it on your own. I would see this a valuable learning experience to add a new skillet to your resume.

In a "technical" guy but Ive been roped into stuff like that before, for bidding out back end infrastructure work, system migrations, etc. It sounds daunting at first but its really not because any decently large organization has a purchasing department and they have standardized templates/processes for these things and will walk you though it. Probably even give you some examples of older proposals to use for reference.

I say go for it. You can always change jobs later if you decide its not for you. One of the worst things you can do for long term career growth is to stay in one deep niche and not develop a versatile skillset.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by Stinky » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:04 am

k3vb0t wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:07 am
OldSport wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:09 am
This is just my opinion, but it sounds like an opportunity to learn a new skill and gain additional experience. I find it important to have a growth mindset and be open to new experiences. If you have no experience in something, try your best and have someone who knows what they're doing mentor you. Now if you haven't done any software engineering after 6 months on the job, that's a different story.
Perhaps your manager is trying to stretch you and your skills? Being able to both do the technical work and respond to RFPs makes you more valuable. It also, in theory, makes the RFP more accurate because it has someone involved that can do the work (so you avoid the “we told the customer we could do what?” scenarios).

The first thing I would do is ask the manager why you were involved and share your concerns about being a non-native English speaker. But I would try to have a growth mindset of being excited to learn something new and to be able to help the team.
+1

I'd definitely regard this as an opportunity to grow and learn new things. I'd talk to the manager, but I'd stick it out. I'll bet that you'll be happier 10-20 years from now if you take this growth opportunity rather than just confining yourself to your current role.
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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by Watty » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:09 am

wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
My question is would this look bad on my resume if I quit after only 2 months? When I go for interviews what should I tell interviewers if they ask why I quit after only 2 months?
I worked in IT and I once took a job where I found out there were major problems with the software that I did not find out about in the interviews. The company was not really interested in fixing the problems, they just wanted to constantly fire fight them. Within about six weeks I knew the job was not going to work out so I started looking for a different job. I never had any problems explaining the short stay there since I had a good record of staying for a reasonable time at my other jobs. The company was also out of business in about three years.
wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
My question is would this look bad on my resume if I quit after only 2 months? When I go for interviews what should I tell interviewers if they ask why I quit after only 2 months?
I would be very cautious about leaving it off your resume. People will pick up on gaps and assume that you got fired after a short time if you can't give a good explanation of why you left.

That said I think it is too early to leave there just because you did not like your first project.
wxz76 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:37 pm
I'm now regretting taking this job because I'm afraid this is how megacorp works. I'm afraid this is not a one time request that I will have to help with future proposals.
It sounds like you may have been contracting before and are now working in a staff job at a company.

In a staff roll at any size company you will be expected to do things that are not in your job description just because they need to be done.

If you are from some country like India there very well could also be people from India that work at the customer you were writing the proposal for. It could be that you manager thought having you involved would help deal with any differences in cultural expectations with the customers Indian employees.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by rich126 » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:16 pm

wxz76 wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:44 am
Thanks to all the replies.
fru-gal wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:17 am
Also, I think you are not a native English speaker, so run automatic correctors over the proposal or ask someone to proofread it.
You’re correct English is my second language. It’s why I’ve been avoiding this type of task all my life. Just thinking about it stress me out.
Pulling technical people into proposals isn't uncommon from what I've seen. As a tech person it is something I try to avoid for a variety of reasons (it is often long hours with tight deadlines, it is writing). I do think if this is a common thing then during the interview process they should have let you know.

As far as English being a second language that can be a problem at times. I worked one place where the team lead's English wasn't great, perfectly understandable but his writing was poor (not uncommon even for native English speakers in the tech world). Since part of his job was writing proposals management eventually asked him to take some writing courses but he refused and they moved him to a tech position.

I'd be reluctant to turn it down when you are just starting. I would look around and have backup plans if it continues since you want to do hands on tech work and not be a manager.

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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by Elsebet » Wed Jan 23, 2019 4:46 pm

I'm not the most skilled technical person. I didn't graduate from a top tier school and I didn't even get top grades. However I get good jobs because I truly enjoy learning and stretching myself technically. I'm not afraid to stumble through something new and I have a "I'll sure try" attitude. Give the proposal a try, you may surprise yourself.
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Re: Regret taking a new job

Post by ccieemeritus » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:28 am

Megacorp veteran both as an individual contributor and manager here.

Put yourself in the managers position:

1) You have a new employee for a contract.

2) That employee doesn’t have access to work on that contract yet.

In that position, as a manager, I’d find something useful for that new employee to work on. A proposal sounds perfect. Of course the manager will review/edit your draft before submittal because you’re a new employee!

I suggest you get to work on that proposal, or suggest something else useful (to your boss!) to work on until you get access to your contract.

Working is all about being useful to the people who pay you money. It’s ok to be selective about which job to take. It’s ok to suggest projects you like (provided they are useful to the bosses). People who don’t work on something useful (for whatever reason) get “managed out”.

It is normal in the US to be assigned tasks for which you don’t have training or experience. That is how people gain experience. Hit the library for a book on proposal writing and ask for a copy of a prior proposal to use as a template. Since you are a non native English speaker, ask a coworker to edit your draft. But only after you’ve gone through it 2-3 times.

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