Computer Security

Questions on how we spend our money and our time - consumer goods and services, home and vehicle, leisure and recreational activities
Larry2623
Posts: 44
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:23 pm

Computer Security

Post by Larry2623 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm

Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc

User avatar
FrugalInvestor
Posts: 4763
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by FrugalInvestor » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm

Time to switch to a Chromebook:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3064762 ... urity.html

Quote from article:
A Chromebook is already an ultra-secure computer straight out of the box. Because it doesn’t run a traditional operating system and takes advantage of various Google-powered security measures, Chrome OS is well-guarded against the evils lurking out there on the web.
IGNORE the noise! | Our life is frittered away by detail... simplify, simplify. - Henry David Thoreau

kjvmartin
Posts: 1167
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2015 8:57 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by kjvmartin » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:00 pm

iMac or MacBook Pro.

No security software for the last decade or so of ownership and never one problem

123
Posts: 3390
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:55 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by 123 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:02 pm

If you are using Windows:

Establish multiple user names on your computer. For day to day activity use a user name that has only standard access. Have at least one user name with Administrator rights. Never use the user with administrator rights unless you really need to, do not use it for day-to-day activities. If you are using a recent version of Windows the security service that Microsoft provides, often Windows Defender, works fine for regular use. If you go to places on the internet that you would rather not tell us about then you may need something stronger.
The closest helping hand is at the end of your own arm.

mptfan
Posts: 4533
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:58 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by mptfan » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm

FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.

golfCaddy
Posts: 576
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:02 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by golfCaddy » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:46 pm

Windows is fine. Just keep your system up to date and use strong passwords. A VPN might prevent unwanted ads, but it won't stop you from getting malware. Blocking cookies sounds great in theory, but a lot of sites won't be fully functional if they're disabled. The best defense to ransomware is to keep backups of all your essential files. A virus scanner isn't a bad idea, but with polymorphic viruses, virus scanning isn't nearly as useful anymore.

jalbert
Posts: 3259
Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:29 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by jalbert » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:36 am

There are techniques to detect polymorphic viruses:

https://www.symantec.com/avcenter/reference/striker.pdf
Index fund investor since 1987.

jalbert
Posts: 3259
Joined: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:29 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by jalbert » Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:38 am

You still may be susceptible to man-in-the-middle attacks with a Chromebook.
Index fund investor since 1987.

SittingOnTheFence
Posts: 289
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:30 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by SittingOnTheFence » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:02 am

Regardless if you have protection or not, if you click on a bad link, typically in an email, you will probably experience grief. Use an email client that will show you the destination of a link rather than just a name that could be anything. Some antivirus software protects against this but those clever guys at the other end of the internet are always finding ways around this protection.

User avatar
pokebowl
Posts: 157
Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:22 pm
Location: The Orion Spur of the Milky Way galaxy.

Re: Computer Security

Post by pokebowl » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:28 am

kjvmartin wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:00 pm
iMac or MacBook Pro.

No security software for the last decade or so of ownership and never one problem
I'll bet you all the tea in China, if Mac had the global market footprint of windows and or maintained critical systems such as with Linux, it would be just as targeted. Even with its footprint in the market, there are still malware campaigns that target Mac specifically. That being all said most current malware trends are OS agnostic, usually targeting the browser, email or RAM anyway (malvertising, exploit kits, cryptojacking, phishing, etc). Outside of targeted attacks, OS specific malware is a slowly dying breed.

I would ensure there is some layer of security on those Macs :beer

User avatar
munemaker
Posts: 3107
Joined: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:14 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by munemaker » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am

mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.

keinodoggy
Posts: 66
Joined: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:16 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by keinodoggy » Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:31 am

If you are NOT needing to install programs on your local hard drive and you do most of your work such as banking online, then the best solution would be as mentioned a chrome book.

tmcc
Posts: 124
Joined: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:38 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by tmcc » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:57 am

Honestly, this is a topic where you can take basic precautions or go nuts.

The more secure end of the spectrum provided you're a high net worth individual with children on the internet, have a security hardened linux hardware firewall (IPFire, PFsese, SophosUTM) you monintor & update daily. Put all known home devices into a known IP range via DHCP. Everything else goes into an off network subnet. Add a pi-hole virtual machine to stamp out any web tracking or telemetry tracking. Avoid all google and facebook products. You'd also have 2-3 VPN services to obscure the source of your traffic.

The less secure end of the spectrum involves having microsoft's defender do the job , watch what you click and call it a day.

Also, I'll take the contrarian position and say getting any google product is a big mistake. Do not give away any of your data to google for any reason. Spend $1k on a macbook before you spend $300 on a chromebook 100%.

Lastly, for the mac people touting security, Apple uses Google for its cloud services. Beware how secure you think your data is. The only real secure is offline, redundant cold storage in your basement

User avatar
oldcomputerguy
Posts: 3050
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:50 am
Location: In the middle of five acres of woods

Re: Computer Security

Post by oldcomputerguy » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:07 am

tmcc wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:57 am
Spend $1k on a macbook before you spend $300 on a chromebook
Or, perhaps, $800 on a decent laptop, and put Linux Mint on it.
:wink:
It’s taken me a lot of years, but I’ve come around to this: If you’re dumb, surround yourself with smart people. And if you’re smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.

carolinaman
Posts: 3065
Joined: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:56 am
Location: North Carolina

Re: Computer Security

Post by carolinaman » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:01 am

What do you intend to use your home computer for? That makes a difference in terms of recommendations.

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:10 am

Asking how to best secure a computer can’t be addressed without knowing which computer. Asking which computer should I buy is like asking which person should I marry. I could decide for you but you’re the one who has to live with him/her.

Btw, my answer is an iPad. For the “computer” that is. :D

User avatar
Blues
Posts: 1640
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:58 am
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns

Re: Computer Security

Post by Blues » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:31 am

I have been completely satisfied with the chromebook for 99.9% of all I do with a computer for the last several years, and it has proven to be quite secure, especially with the very few extensions I've added to enhance that security.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” - Sun Tzu | "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson

User avatar
JoMoney
Posts: 5251
Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:31 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by JoMoney » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am

munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
"To achieve satisfactory investment results is easier than most people realize; to achieve superior results is harder than it looks." - Benjamin Graham

jebmke
Posts: 8033
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by jebmke » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:48 am

JoMoney wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
Since the OP had not told us anything about how he uses computer resources, how can this be good advice?
When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

JoeRetire
Posts: 1065
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by JoeRetire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:50 am

Larry2623 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc
What will you be doing on your computer? You'll get different recommendations depending on your needs.

I still have some things I like to do that require Windows. But my wife only reads/writes emails and surfs the vast interwebs - so she uses a Chromebook. My son requires a Mac due to the work he does. My niece only uses a phone and no other computer.

The best device and setup depend on the need. Start there.

JoeRetire
Posts: 1065
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by JoeRetire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:50 am

jebmke wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:48 am
JoMoney wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
Since the OP had not told us anything about how he uses computer resources, how can this be good advice?
Agreed. That's like saying the best color is red.

THY4373
Posts: 703
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:17 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by THY4373 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:57 am

jebmke wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:48 am
JoMoney wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
Since the OP had not told us anything about how he uses computer resources, how can this be good advice?
Totally agree, nor has OP told us what threats they are trying to secure against. No point talking about security until you have some definition of the threat(s) OP is concerned about. They may put a high value on privacy and if so a Chromebooks is likely not secure from that perspective.

Cheyenne
Posts: 385
Joined: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:46 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by Cheyenne » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:21 am

iMac or MacBook Pro.

No security software for the last decade or so of ownership and never one problem
I have used iMacs and a MacBook Pro for business for the past six years and I have picked up several viruses and trojans, etc. during that time. We now use Bitdefender paid service.

bert09
Posts: 40
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:04 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by bert09 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:24 am

I have found that being proactive about not exposing yourself to shady websites is just as valuable as having anti-virus. When browsing I use Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin plug-ins which between the two blocks most shady ads, which seem like the most common way to get infected recently. The earlier advice about admin permissions is solid as well.

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:08 am

jebmke wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:48 am
JoMoney wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
FrugalInvestor wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Time to switch to a Chromebook
I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
Since the OP had not told us anything about how he uses computer resources, how can this be good advice?
Party pooper! :D

User avatar
FrugalInvestor
Posts: 4763
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by FrugalInvestor » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:15 am

JoeRetire wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:50 am
jebmke wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:48 am
JoMoney wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:37 am
munemaker wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 am
mptfan wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm

I second this.
I third this.
This good advice should be repeated.
Since the OP had not told us anything about how he uses computer resources, how can this be good advice?
Agreed. That's like saying the best color is red.
Red is the best color!

Seriously, it's true that we need some more specifics to definitely rule in or out a Chromebook. But since the OP has retired there is a good chance that a Chromebook would be a good option as a primary or secondary machine. I retired 15 years ago and rejoiced when I discovered them.
IGNORE the noise! | Our life is frittered away by detail... simplify, simplify. - Henry David Thoreau

stlrick
Posts: 390
Joined: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:37 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by stlrick » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:23 am

After spending a lot of time looking into this, I bought a Chromebook as a secondary machine and use it exclusively for on-line financial management. No email, no games, no searching, no blogs, no nothing. When I open the Chrome browser, the 10 or so links at which I conduct financial transactions are across the top. After using one, I close the browser before reopening it for a second transaction.

User avatar
queso
Posts: 531
Joined: Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:52 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by queso » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:27 am

Make good backups. Keep photos, documents, music, etc. (your data) and a recent image backup of your system on an external hard drive that you unplug when you aren't refreshing your backups. Encrypt another copy of your data and store it with a cloud provider in case you lose both the computer and the backup drive(s) to theft, fire, act of God, etc. Install a free antivirus and use it, but realize that there is no perfect solution to today's complex and ever-evolving threat landscape.

Larry2623
Posts: 44
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:23 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by Larry2623 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:39 am

OP here...just internet banking, investing...just internet. Fidelity is my main asset account and I use vip for added security. I have Mac air, desktop win10 and ipad/iphone

LiterallyIronic
Posts: 710
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:36 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by LiterallyIronic » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:48 am

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:39 am
OP here...just internet banking, investing...just internet. Fidelity is my main asset account and I use vip for added security. I have Mac air, desktop win10 and ipad/iphone
If you're just surfing the Internet, then, yeah, Chromebook will be fine. They're not remotely powerful for heaving-hitting stuff like gaming, video editing, or software development, but if you're just checking your e-mail, watching YouTube, and so on, then it's hard to beat the simplicity of a Chromebook.

User avatar
FrugalInvestor
Posts: 4763
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:20 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by FrugalInvestor » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:49 am

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:39 am
OP here...just internet banking, investing...just internet. Fidelity is my main asset account and I use vip for added security
Larry, you are a prime candidate for a Chromebook. The choice will be between a very basic and inexpensive model or a more sophisticated one that is thinner, lighter, brighter and has features like touchscreen. The following article has some examples....

https://www.techradar.com/news/cheap-chromebook-deals
IGNORE the noise! | Our life is frittered away by detail... simplify, simplify. - Henry David Thoreau

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:33 am

OP already has a Mac air and windows desktop and and asking about security but people are still harping on chromebooks? :confused

Evidently, every answer to any computer question here is chromebook.

jebmke
Posts: 8033
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by jebmke » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:45 am

AntsOnTheMarch wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:33 am
OP already has a Mac air and windows desktop and and asking about security but people are still harping on chromebooks? :confused
You noticed that too.

To me, the best approach to computer security is good computing hygiene and a strong backup protocol.

Good hygiene can range from avoiding risky browsing to using a standard user (Windows) to isolating computing tasks in virtual machines or independent hardware.

A good backup protocol involves more than just maintaining copies somewhere - even in the cloud. Just as important as the backup procedure itself is verification by doing test restores to alternative hardware to ensure that the backups are indeed there and you know how to recover the data. IMO versioning is also important.
When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

Larry2623
Posts: 44
Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:23 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by Larry2623 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:47 am

So no one use any security like norton or malwarebytes or anti anti virus?

jebmke
Posts: 8033
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by jebmke » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:37 pm

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:47 am
So no one use any security like norton or malwarebytes or anti anti virus?
I run Malwarebytes every couple of weeks. For AV I just use Windows Defender.
When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.

LiterallyIronic
Posts: 710
Joined: Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:36 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by LiterallyIronic » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:49 pm

jebmke wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:45 am
AntsOnTheMarch wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:33 am
OP already has a Mac air and windows desktop and and asking about security but people are still harping on chromebooks? :confused
You noticed that too.
I assumed that OP's computer was a work computer and now he was replacing it. If he's already got a Windows machine, that comes with Windows Defender, so he's probably fine as long as he doesn't click questionable links and download questionable stuff. If he wanted to install some third-party software, I'd suggest Kaspersky or MalwareBytes.

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:54 pm

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:47 am
So no one use any security like norton or malwarebytes or anti anti virus?
I’d never install Norton on my Mac. Virus software locks the door after the horses have left. Better to practice good hygiene and make sure that your system is updated. Can’t speak for windows.

mptfan
Posts: 4533
Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:58 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by mptfan » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:55 pm

AntsOnTheMarch wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:33 am
Evidently, every answer to any computer question here is chromebook.
Not necessarily, sometimes I recommend a chromebox.
:wink:

User avatar
oldcomputerguy
Posts: 3050
Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:50 am
Location: In the middle of five acres of woods

Re: Computer Security

Post by oldcomputerguy » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:56 pm

FrugalInvestor wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:15 am
Red is the best color!
Only if you're wanting to tax-loss-harvest.
:beer
It’s taken me a lot of years, but I’ve come around to this: If you’re dumb, surround yourself with smart people. And if you’re smart, surround yourself with smart people who disagree with you.

PFInterest
Posts: 1458
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:25 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by PFInterest » Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:56 pm

Larry2623 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc
Win Defender. Avast free. MacOS still needs security, don't listen to those who say otherwise.

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:11 pm

PFInterest wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:56 pm
Larry2623 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc
Win Defender. Avast free. MacOS still needs security, don't listen to those who say otherwise.
Follow good hygiene and procedures on Mac and update system. Nothing more is needed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5672608

a5ehren
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 7:48 am

Re: Computer Security

Post by a5ehren » Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:14 pm

Your Macbook Air is probably OK, as long as you have the latest OS updates.

Your Windows 10 desktop is probably OK, as long as you have the latest OS updates. MS Defender (free with the OS) is good enough these days to where I can't honestly recommend any other free AV product.

For both of these platforms, run an Ad-Blocker for your web browser. uBlock Origin is the best one I am aware of at the moment, and is available on all major browsers. Even "reliable" ad networks on "good" sites get infected with drive-by malware on a regular basis. If you have sites you particularly like, see if there is another way to support them.

Your iPad and iPhone are probably OK, as long as they are new enough (~4ish years) to receive the latest OS updates. If you go to Settings->General->About it should be 11.2.<something>. If you're still on iOS 10 or older, consider replacing your device with something released in 2017 to ensure you get updates for a longer time.

PFInterest
Posts: 1458
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:25 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by PFInterest » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:10 pm

AntsOnTheMarch wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:11 pm
PFInterest wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:56 pm
Larry2623 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc
Win Defender. Avast free. MacOS still needs security, don't listen to those who say otherwise.
Follow good hygiene and procedures on Mac and update system. Nothing more is needed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5672608
Let me quote something actually useful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.macwor ... 182/%3Famp
You can also read the write up on pcmag.

JoeRetire
Posts: 1065
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by JoeRetire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:16 pm

FrugalInvestor wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:15 am
Red is the best color!
Agreed - red is the best color. But I digress...
Seriously, it's true that we need some more specifics to definitely rule in or out a Chromebook. But since the OP has retired there is a good chance that a Chromebook would be a good option as a primary or secondary machine. I retired 15 years ago and rejoiced when I discovered them.
I'm retired. While they are great in the right circumstances, a Chromebook is NOT a good option for me. (Good for my wife, not good for my granddaughter, etc, etc.)

Decide what you want to do with the device first, then choose the device.

JoeRetire
Posts: 1065
Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:44 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by JoeRetire » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:23 pm

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:39 am
OP here...just internet banking, investing...just internet. Fidelity is my main asset account and I use vip for added security. I have Mac air, desktop win10 and ipad/iphone
Assuming you wish to purchase a new device...

Unless you are averse to new interfaces, I'd strongly suggest you look at a Chromebook. You can find a wide variety of price points and options. And if you really want to go all out and price is no object, check out the new Google Pixelbook. My son has one and it's amazing.

If you just want to continue using your Win10 Desktop...

I've been very pleased with AVG Anti-Virus.

AntsOnTheMarch
Posts: 610
Joined: Mon May 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by AntsOnTheMarch » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:33 pm

PFInterest wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:10 pm
AntsOnTheMarch wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:11 pm
PFInterest wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:56 pm
Larry2623 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:52 pm
Retiring next month, always used work computer security now must set up my own. Any suggestions for best? Norton, malwarebytes, etc
Win Defender. Avast free. MacOS still needs security, don't listen to those who say otherwise.
Follow good hygiene and procedures on Mac and update system. Nothing more is needed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5672608
Let me quote something actually useful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.macwor ... 182/%3Famp
You can also read the write up on pcmag.
Useful why? Because in a tech magazine? I beg to differ. Magazines and ezines are supported by advertising. They make money selling you stuff. Buy a bike magazine and you’ll find that you need more bikes, hydration packs, computers to attach to your handlebars, special clothes to go biking in, etc. Same for computer magazines, camera magazines, etc.

You don’t need Anti-Virus on Macs. I’ve been a Mac user since 1988 and I’m no wizard so if I don’t need it nobody does. Follow the simple and truly useful guidelines in that link. Update the system, don’t download crapware, don’t run java, etc. You will be fine.

Anti-Virus software cannot catch what it doesn’t know exists. Once we know a particular malware exists, Apple updates the system. Problem solved.

JBTX
Posts: 3349
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:46 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by JBTX » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:47 pm

Larry2623 wrote:
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:47 am
So no one use any security like norton or malwarebytes or anti anti virus?
I have McAfee (just out of habit) a subscription to Malwarebytes and also use a product called Hitman Pro.

Seems like every few years I’ll get some malware that even those can’t get rid of and I have to reinstall Windows.

Also recommend browser add ins like bit defender traffic light and WOT (in spite of some of their privacy concerns)

I can’t speak to windows defender but for years IT professionals have been telling me “all you neee for anti virus is windows defender” but when I used it I don’t recall it ever detecting anything nor preventing anything.

User avatar
Watty
Posts: 13439
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:55 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by Watty » Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:24 pm

FYI, it is likely that your ISP has free commercial antivirus software for windows. I get Norton free from Comcast and when I had ATT/Uverse they provided McAfee.

If these are what you need but is another question but you can research what is available to you.

Your financial accounts likely have two factor authentication which is also a good idea.

User avatar
Rob5TCP
Posts: 3075
Joined: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:34 pm
Location: New York, NY

Re: Computer Security

Post by Rob5TCP » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:43 pm

Out of inertia; I've stayed with Symantec for daily quick scans (weekly full scans)
Malwarebytes is used for quick daily scans, and periodic scans with HitManPro Alert.
I tend to buy the premium on all products. I've had 3 false positives in 5 years and
only 1 actual minor infection.

User avatar
dccboone
Posts: 77
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:02 pm

Re: Computer Security

Post by dccboone » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:58 pm

by stlrick » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:23 am

After spending a lot of time looking into this, I bought a Chromebook as a secondary machine and use it exclusively for on-line financial management. No email, no games, no searching, no blogs, no nothing. When I open the Chrome browser, the 10 or so links at which I conduct financial transactions are across the top. After using one, I close the browser before reopening it for a second transaction.

This is also what Clark Howard recommends. To learn more, visit his website. Given all of the breaches we have seen during this past year, I'm going to do as he recommends and as stlrick has done. For less than $200 you can substantially increase your protection. Seems like a worthwhile form of insurance to me.

Post Reply