The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by JupiterJones » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:09 am

Two things...

First, I also avoid valet whenever possible. Not so much because I don't trust the valets, but because it lets me avoid the inevitable long line at the end of the evening to get my car back. Plus I feel weird having people do things for me that I can easily do myself (I can park my own car and carry my own bag, thankyouverymuch...)

Second, the whole story reminds me of the Buddhist concept of the "already broken glass". The OP's agony is due to their unrealistic expectation that their Tesla would be new and perfect and undamaged forever--or at least for a lot longer than it did. But as Michael Carlson explained it in "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff"...

All of life is in a constant state of change. [...] In our modern world, this means that every car, every machine, every piece of clothing is created and all will wear out and crumble; it’s only a matter of when. Our bodies are born and they will die. A glass is created and will eventually break.

There is peace to be found in this teaching. When you expect something to break, you’re not surprised or disappointed when it does. Instead of becoming immobilized when something is destroyed, you feel grateful for the time you have had. [...]

Obviously, no one wants their favorite drinking glass, or anything else, to be broken. This philosophy is not a prescription for becoming passive or apathetic, but for making peace with the way things are. When your drinking glass does break, this philosophy allows you to maintain your perspective. Rather than thinking, “Oh my God,” you’ll find yourself thinking, “Ah, there it goes.”
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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by bsteiner » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:32 am

lazydavid wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:06 am
... Legally, there are two things that can happen when you give your keys to someone else:

-Care, Custody, and Control: This means that the individual/organization taking possession of the car is completely responsible for anything that happens to it or by it.
-Priveleged Use: Aside from intentional crime/torts, the owner of the vehicle remains responsible for whatever happens while the other person is driving, unless the driver or his/her employer chooses to accept responsibility. ...
If you search under "duty of care valet parking" (without the quote marks), you'll get lots of results, including this article: ... =lawreview.

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by LookingtogetFIRE'd » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:51 am

You'll want to ask for the declarations page of the restaurant's policy. That will tell you the limits of coverage the restaurant is carrying -- and you will find out if they are underinsured. If you have any concerns about not being fully compensated, consult with an attorney.

Good luck.

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by Caduceus » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:02 am

randomizer wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:26 pm
This is why we can't have nice things.
Haha. :twisted:

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by David Jay » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:42 am

I've been resisting temptation since Sunday, but resistance is futile:


(*historic reference)
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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by timmy » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:57 am

Archimedes wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:06 am
I’m crying right now. We went to a charity benefit last night. Apparently the valet at the fancy venue didn’t know how to handle a high torque electric rocket. He drove my cherished Tesla Model S 90D into a brick wall, smashing the car and caving in part of the wall. It was nearly new with only 6,000 miles on the odometer.

The owner of the venue says his insurance company will call me on Monday, and “take care of everything.” The police came to the scene and wrote an incident report but refused to write a full police report as they said the owner of the venue is taking full responsibility.

I have a question about the compensation I am entitled to. The car is almost new and cost over 100k. For years I drove Honda’s, but after following boglehead principles of saving and investing for a few decades I have more than I will ever need. I have been working to change my habits, to be more extravagant, hence my purchase of this mind blowing, futuristic transportation appliance that makes me grin from ear to ear every time I pull away from a stoplight or merge onto a highway.

After last night’s charity gala, my happy face is a fading memory.

I post in the hope that others might share past experience. What might I be entitled to as compensation? Of course the car will be repaired and that will be covered by the venue’s insurance. But even after the repair, this serious accident will diminish the post-repair resale value of the car. That diminished value might be a couple thousand on a run of the mill vehicle, but likely significantly more substantial on this expensive Tesla. And while the repairs are ongoing, will I be entitled to rent a Tesla, or will I be driving around in a Chevy Sonic?

I have heard of a “diminished value claim” but also heard that reimbursement for this is uncertain. Has anyone successfully received compensation for the diminished value of a repaired vehicle?
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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by Biil McNeal » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:33 am

Any updates?

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by Archimedes » Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:30 am

Thanks for requesting an update....

My formerly almost new Tesla Model S is currently being repaired. My insurance company is handling the repair and will handle reimbursement from the owner of the venue. The body shop performing the repair is a Tesla authorized body shop and they are not having any problems obtaining parts. The car should be ready for me shortly when I return from vacation.

Despite my initial shock when the accident occurred, the post repair value of the vehicle has no bearing whatsoever on my financial position. But years of careful financial habits led me to wonder whether I might receive compensation for loss of value for my post repair, formerly damaged vehicle, hence my initial post to seek advice from the many wise bogleheads on the forum.

I do appreciate those who commiserated with me over this crazy accident caused by a very irresponsible valet.

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Re: The valet smashed my Tesla into a brick wall!

Post by TomatoTomahto » Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:47 am

Thanks for the update, and enjoy your Tesla when you get it back. As much as I love mine, it’s still just a car.

Happy to hear that the horror stories about parts supply are no longer true.
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