Speaking of possible misinformation...jayk238 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:09 pm
And I leave you with this.
The outcomes of prostate cancer in the US for survivial in 5 years is 95%. In UK? 49%. Nearly 50% of men will have prostate cancer
The outcomes for patients with an Acute MI is 80%+ in the US depending on rural vs urban center- in the UK? < 60%
There is more data like this but its never EVER presented by NYTimes and others because this data is contradictory to their narrative for a single payer system.
End rant. Yes I know I ranted.
A quick google search leads to UK statistics which indicates 5-year survival rates from prostate cancer is 84.8%
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health- ... r/survival
American Cancer society puts American survival rates at 99%.
Certainly a win for American medicine on this but not as dramatic a difference as your numbers suggest. From what I can tell, the 49% number was true back in the 1970s and 1980s but then the American number was much lower than too I would imagine.
Similarly, Germany has a 5-year prostate survival rate of 93.3% just as a point of reference (since you mentioned Europe). Note that research at least suggests that the German disadvantage relative to Americans can be attributed to differences in incidence and stage distributions over time and across countries. https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... tributions
Also, note that the UK has particularly worse cancer survival rates as compared to the industrialized European nations so it may not be the best to use to broadly declare that the European model is fundamentally worse. https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ries-study
As to the Acute MI statistic - multiple sources call in to question your statistic e.g. one example from the Lancet (see table page 1309) discussing 30-day mortality rates that are generally in the single or low double digits for the UK and Sweden.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 361362070X
Anyways, just wanted to point out what appears to be some dated statistics in your discussion and to note that perhaps NYTimes and others do not report your statistics because they are not actually true? Just a thought to consider.