KlangFool wrote:rrppve wrote:If the kid gets into one of the elites, he won't be the doormat. He has the talent to succeed there. The issue becomes whether they have the drive or get distracted by the various other opportunities available in the university environment.
You know that mathematically it does not make sense. Out of 100% students admitted to the Engineering, there will be those that are above average, average, and below average. So, at least 50% of the students admitted will be average or below average.
<<He has the talent to succeed there.>>
Statistically, 50% to 67% of the students admitted will not be getting a good deal. Aka, they are not likely to succeed. Plus, they will be paying DOUBLE for the PRIVILEGE to be the doormat.
Were you at the top 33% or 25% of your graduating class? If yes, it was a great experience for you. But, please note that for the bottom 67% to 75%, it may not be as good.
KlangFool is right in this regard. It is a terrible feeling for the student to struggle at places like MIT and Cornell and get poor grades (I speak from experience). This can lead to problems with depression/suicide as many people already know. Also, a poor GPA from an elite school does nothing to advance your career. Investment banking and consulting internships often require a minimum 3.5 GPA to even get interviewed. Same goes for med school, law school, etc. A friend of mine had to go out of the country for med school to make up for his poor grades at Stanford. It has taken him many additional years to get started on his intended career path. It's far better in my opinion to go to an easier school and get a high GPA.