How has your Salary performed against inflation?
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How has your Salary performed against inflation?
I was comparing my salary to inflation over the last decade now that the new year has started.
Using the government's inflation calculator, and assuming 2% going into 2016, we've seen about 20% over the last decade. During that time, my salary, all with the same employer, has increased 39%.
So I've managed to make real gains in purchasing power. My wife's salary has tracked similarly.
Using the government's inflation calculator, and assuming 2% going into 2016, we've seen about 20% over the last decade. During that time, my salary, all with the same employer, has increased 39%.
So I've managed to make real gains in purchasing power. My wife's salary has tracked similarly.
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In 30 years, my salary has grown at a CAGR of about 7.1% (that's an increase of 672% over 30 years), which is probably 3%-4% real.
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I've grown by about 3.8% per year real from 1987-2015 (entire time with same employer), and about 6.6% nominal per year.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
8.5% nominal CAGR for the last 22 years (graduated college in 1994). Same employer the whole time.
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Since I graduated college in 2009:
2009
Temp job
Starting pay $12/hr * 40 = $24,960
After a series of job transitions between companies and most recently within my current company in the past couple months
2016
Current job
+/- $82,000
So CAGR is about 18.52% annually, less 2% inflation, about 16.52% annually.
Increase is almost completely through job jumps, actual raises were at around inflation or less.
2009
Temp job
Starting pay $12/hr * 40 = $24,960
After a series of job transitions between companies and most recently within my current company in the past couple months
2016
Current job
+/- $82,000
So CAGR is about 18.52% annually, less 2% inflation, about 16.52% annually.
Increase is almost completely through job jumps, actual raises were at around inflation or less.
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I made $91,000/year in 2000 in I.T. (software development--Unix/C/C++/Oracle; telcom area; I was a longtime employee; the long-term employees in I.T. were targeted for layoff, the feeling from upper management was that they were overcompensated).
'not working now, but the going rate when recruiters talk to me is about $85,000. They tell me there is a lot foreign insource competition in this area, even though there is demand for this kind of work, so salaries have flatlined with no uptrend in sight.
'not working now, but the going rate when recruiters talk to me is about $85,000. They tell me there is a lot foreign insource competition in this area, even though there is demand for this kind of work, so salaries have flatlined with no uptrend in sight.
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I started my first "real" job (software engineer) 20 years ago. My base salary has increased by
+47% over the past 10 years (3.94% annualized)
+343% over the past 20 years (6.36% annualized)
This doesn't include cash and stock bonuses, which are also substantially higher. I do not expect similar growth over the next 10 years, but if luck is on my side, I hope to be retired by then.
By some measures, my income now is worse than it was in the past. E.g. at various points in my career I was able to afford to live in San Francisco and within a mile from the beach in Southern California. But prices/rents have increased so much since then that I would not be able to do so now, despite the higher nominal salary.
+47% over the past 10 years (3.94% annualized)
+343% over the past 20 years (6.36% annualized)
This doesn't include cash and stock bonuses, which are also substantially higher. I do not expect similar growth over the next 10 years, but if luck is on my side, I hope to be retired by then.
By some measures, my income now is worse than it was in the past. E.g. at various points in my career I was able to afford to live in San Francisco and within a mile from the beach in Southern California. But prices/rents have increased so much since then that I would not be able to do so now, despite the higher nominal salary.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
Since finishing grad school 9 years ago, my CAGR is at 3.9%. All with same company.
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Hmm...my nominal CAGR over twenty years of working is 6% per year. I expect it to gradually be smaller and smaller as I near retirement.
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My salary has increased by about 24% in the last 4.5 years.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
My salary has increased by approximately 285% since I started my first full-time job upon graduating from college in May 2006.
My wife's total compensation has increased by around 250% during the same period.
My wife's total compensation has increased by around 250% during the same period.
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At my first job out of college , I got a 52% raise after my 1st yr. After my first job out of b-school, I got a 15% raise after 6 mos. Otherwise, my salary within jobs has only slightly beaten inflation, although bonuses have been +/- 50%. The large salary bumps came primarily due to job changes (27%, 21%),
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Over the last 10 years my salary CAGR is 4.05% nominal. Inflation, CPI is up 18% over 10 years. That is 1.67% CAGR. So my real CAGR is 2.38%, if my math is correct.
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Since starting my current job in 2010 my raises have been as follows:
2.08%
3.25%
2.17%
2.00%
2.00%
26.38% (Current employer matched a job offer I received)
CAGR = 5.97%
If it wasn't for that last one, I'm sure I would have lost purchasing power since 2010.
2.08%
3.25%
2.17%
2.00%
2.00%
26.38% (Current employer matched a job offer I received)
CAGR = 5.97%
If it wasn't for that last one, I'm sure I would have lost purchasing power since 2010.
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Since 1981 my annual salary grew at a CAGR of 5.33%. CPI via the BLS calculator grew 2.86%/yr over the same period, for a real increase of 2.4%/yr. If I add my bonus into my 2015 compensation (no bonus in 1981), my compensation grew at a CAGR of 6.12%, or 3.2% real. Of course there was the year I was laid off and had to take a 26% pay cut about 20 years ago, and it took me many years to get back to the same nominal salary. So these things do not necessarily move in a straight line.
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just looking at base salary -
2003: 63k
2006: 115k
2009: 135k
2013: 175k
2015: 185k
2016: 0k (start up time )
CAGR is ~9.4% from '03 to '15
2003: 63k
2006: 115k
2009: 135k
2013: 175k
2015: 185k
2016: 0k (start up time )
CAGR is ~9.4% from '03 to '15
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My base salary has more than doubled since starting to work in 2000 but the number is quite meaningless since but it involved one move from low COL city to high COL city and another move from a company with better benefits and 401k match to one with worse match and benefits.
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Very impressive!absolutFinance wrote:just looking at base salary -
2003: 63k
2006: 115k
2009: 135k
2013: 175k
2015: 185k
2016: 0k (start up time )
CAGR is ~9.4% from '03 to '15
Up 100% since 2008 (graduated college). Not sure how to calculate all the metrics you guys are using.
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Very impressive!absolutFinance wrote:just looking at base salary -
2003: 63k
2006: 115k
2009: 135k
2013: 175k
2015: 185k
2016: 0k (start up time )
CAGR is ~9.4% from '03 to '15
I'm up 100% since 2008 (graduated college). Not sure how to calculate all the metrics you guys are using.
Growth mostly due to two employer changes (same type of job).
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Using the Windows calculatorI'm up 100% since 2008 (graduated college). Not sure how to calculate all the metrics you guys are using.
Suppose you start at $54 and 8 years later you make $60.
Increase = 60/54= 1.11
Then 1+CAGR = 1.11^(1/8) = 1.013 (use the x to the y power button)
So CAGR is 1.3%
We live a world with knowledge of the future markets has less than one significant figure. And people will still and always demand answers to three significant digits.
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If this question were to include pensioners, then most would probably say their current income is barely keeping up with " real" inflation !
In my case I am doing well only because I/we have substantial public sector pensions . Well enough that we only tap our investment folios for big ticket items periodically, and still contribute to our folios and fund a sibling with spending money .
In my case I am doing well only because I/we have substantial public sector pensions . Well enough that we only tap our investment folios for big ticket items periodically, and still contribute to our folios and fund a sibling with spending money .
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Nominal values...
1987-2003 CAGR 10.7%
2003-2013 CAGR 0.5% for the whole period although I was negative from 2003-2010
2013-present CAGR 32.6%
Dotcom boom/bust, global financial crisis, Unicorns and FANGs.
1987-2003 CAGR 10.7%
2003-2013 CAGR 0.5% for the whole period although I was negative from 2003-2010
2013-present CAGR 32.6%
Dotcom boom/bust, global financial crisis, Unicorns and FANGs.
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went from an entry level SW engineer in the aerospace industry to a VP of a small cap company through the acquisition of a company I started. lots of headroom from being a fresh grad back in '03. i imagine for many people once you get senior enough, the growth rates diminish. for example, for me to triple my salary again, I'd have to get a very senior role at a bigco like MSFT/GOOG/AMZN and even then I think a decent % of the comp would be stock-based rather than pure salary. better to build $ through equity...BW1985 wrote:Very impressive!absolutFinance wrote:just looking at base salary -
2003: 63k
2006: 115k
2009: 135k
2013: 175k
2015: 185k
2016: 0k (start up time )
CAGR is ~9.4% from '03 to '15
I'm up 100% since 2008 (graduated college). Not sure how to calculate all the metrics you guys are using.
Growth mostly due to two employer changes (same type of job).
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In same job since 1987 but was just out of school (residency)then and I am a partner now. Per government CPI calculator I make the same now as I did in 1987 inflation adjusted.
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Average annual increase (real) for post college, stable employment: 4.74%.
Working for a bank in 2008 was brutal. 1.2%, nominal. The years where I had poor managers are obvious too.
Fun exercise!
Working for a bank in 2008 was brutal. 1.2%, nominal. The years where I had poor managers are obvious too.
Fun exercise!
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Or use:Rodc wrote: Then 1+CAGR = 1.11^(1/8) = 1.013 (use the x to the y power button)
So CAGR is 1.3%
Investopedia Compound Annual Growth (CAGR) Calculator
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Give the answer but does not answer question of how to do the calculation. Of course I did not really explain the math either.Leif wrote:Or use:Rodc wrote: Then 1+CAGR = 1.11^(1/8) = 1.013 (use the x to the y power button)
So CAGR is 1.3%
Investopedia Compound Annual Growth (CAGR) Calculator
We live a world with knowledge of the future markets has less than one significant figure. And people will still and always demand answers to three significant digits.
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From 1979-2011 my CAGR was 6.65%
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A couple related charts I had from a spreadsheet I did last year:
This shows CPI (a proxy for inflation) and AWI (the social security administration's average wage) as paired (orange/blue), percent year-over-year increases. It only goes to 2013 because the SSA data updates are lagged). Note there is quite a large discrepancy in some years, of inflation % increase versus % increase of wages.
and this shows cumulative CPI and AWI. SSA's average wage index has outpaced inflation over the long run, pretty significantly. (orange and blue are swapped in the 2nd chart compared to the 1st)
This shows CPI (a proxy for inflation) and AWI (the social security administration's average wage) as paired (orange/blue), percent year-over-year increases. It only goes to 2013 because the SSA data updates are lagged). Note there is quite a large discrepancy in some years, of inflation % increase versus % increase of wages.
and this shows cumulative CPI and AWI. SSA's average wage index has outpaced inflation over the long run, pretty significantly. (orange and blue are swapped in the 2nd chart compared to the 1st)
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I think it does give the answer to how to do the calculation. Use an on-line calculator.Rodc wrote:Give the answer but does not answer question of how to do the calculation. Of course I did not really explain the math either.Leif wrote:Or use:Rodc wrote: Then 1+CAGR = 1.11^(1/8) = 1.013 (use the x to the y power button)
So CAGR is 1.3%
Investopedia Compound Annual Growth (CAGR) Calculator
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This is a fun number to calculate! First post college income was $31k in 2004. 2015 earnings was $260k.
CAGR = 21.33% and total increase is 838% over 11 years. Gotta love tech.
CAGR = 21.33% and total increase is 838% over 11 years. Gotta love tech.
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9% in 11 years
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Interesting question. I had never checked this before for my entire career. I worked from 1964 to 2010. CAGR (nominal) was 8.02%, (real) 3.7%.
I was in same position the last 22 years (IT Director) and CAGR (nominal) was 4.4%, (real) 1.6%.
I was in same position the last 22 years (IT Director) and CAGR (nominal) was 4.4%, (real) 1.6%.
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I actually track as part of my massive spreadsheet
Since graduating undergrad in 1997 and getting first real salaried job, CAGR is 14.7%. That includes 0% period from 2006-2010.
Since graduating undergrad in 1997 and getting first real salaried job, CAGR is 14.7%. That includes 0% period from 2006-2010.
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My salary had peaked and stayed in the same tight range for the last 15 years. All my gain against inflation come from my savings and investment.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
I started working full time in 2010
2016 $122,000.00
2015 $109,000.00
2014 $49,000.00
2013 $53,000.00
2012 $52,000.00
2011 $39,000.00
2010 $25,000.00
The best part? I have built a wonderful life spending as though I still earn 2010 income. Financial independance at ~38 is the goal.
2016 $122,000.00
2015 $109,000.00
2014 $49,000.00
2013 $53,000.00
2012 $52,000.00
2011 $39,000.00
2010 $25,000.00
The best part? I have built a wonderful life spending as though I still earn 2010 income. Financial independance at ~38 is the goal.
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I can see how this type of increase could be fun. Most, if not all of those responding had a greater than average increase per year over inflation. I suppose this thread will have fewer comments from those, who like me, lost big time due to "retiring" early while continuing to work and entering the job market again at an advanced age. Telecom engineer, no degree.FreedomDollars wrote:This is a fun number to calculate! First post college income was $31k in 2004. 2015 earnings was $260k.
CAGR = 21.33% and total increase is 838% over 11 years. Gotta love tech.
- Retired 2009 after 31 years with mega-corp at 57 after reaching around 80k annually. Record of slowly losing ground to inflation. Hourly.
- Started immediately at a different employer who lured me away, receiving 35k yearly when promised 80k. (1 year) Hourly.
- 2010 New company pursued me 69k to start. Hourly.
- 2011 same company, no raise but increased OT. 90k for 11 months before layoff. Hourly.
- 2012 laid off 6 months then rehired with 25% decrease in pay and reset of benefits. Company called me back but claimed financial distress with promises of imminent raise. 35k + unemployment of 22k. No bites on employment search at age 60. Hourly.
- 2013 no raise more OT 65k. Hourly.
- 2014 no raise increased OT 69k. Hourly.
- 2015 7% raise 2 weeks before quitting end of October, less OT, 48k, hourly. New employer who pursued me at twice the comp, salary, adding 17k in last two months of the year. Meat grinder of a job.
- 2016 projected income, 108k total compensation, last year of employment before final retirement at age 64.5 (or 64).
Did I keep up with inflation? Not even close, and too depressing to calculate. Congratulations to those who did. Please learn from my example.
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4.71% CAGR nominal since July 2005. Inflation over that time period is 1.90%. So I'm beating inflation by 2.81%.
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Since retirement in 2006 my divs which represent about half of my income (other half non cola pension) have increased by 10% CAGR. So on average total retirement income has increased by about 5% CAGR. Inflation less than 2% per year so looks like I am ahead.
Going back to the question of salary, my ending salary in 2005 was 300 times my first full time starting salary in 1975 right out of undergrad. The CAGR is almost 21% per year and obviously well above inflation.
Going back to the question of salary, my ending salary in 2005 was 300 times my first full time starting salary in 1975 right out of undergrad. The CAGR is almost 21% per year and obviously well above inflation.
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A CAGR from start to finish over a long period can be a bit misleading, as it hides dips and struggles. My career went from losing money to inflation for the first 10 years to going way beyond it in the last 5.
2000-2009 CAGR: 1.0% nominal (inflation was 2.25%)
2010-2014 CAGR: 31.2% nominal (inflation was 1.65%)
If you run this from 2000-2014 it's 11.8% nominal but ignores the fact that I was lagging behind inflation for a decade. And before anyone asks, the reason for the sharp increase in 2010 is because I started my own business.
2000-2009 CAGR: 1.0% nominal (inflation was 2.25%)
2010-2014 CAGR: 31.2% nominal (inflation was 1.65%)
If you run this from 2000-2014 it's 11.8% nominal but ignores the fact that I was lagging behind inflation for a decade. And before anyone asks, the reason for the sharp increase in 2010 is because I started my own business.
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You guys have gotten some impressive raises.
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+1 this. Kind of like cherry picking stock market returns. I've been working full time for 32 years. CAGR over that time is around 6%. For the last decade though I'm in the red with inflation...vitaflo wrote:A CAGR from start to finish over a long period can be a bit misleading, as it hides dips and struggles. My career went from losing money to inflation for the first 10 years to going way beyond it in the last 5.
2000-2009 CAGR: 1.0% nominal (inflation was 2.25%)
2010-2014 CAGR: 31.2% nominal (inflation was 1.65%)
If you run this from 2000-2014 it's 11.8% nominal but ignores the fact that I was lagging behind inflation for a decade. And before anyone asks, the reason for the sharp increase in 2010 is because I started my own business.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
Nominal values starting with first full-time, regular employment following graduate school:
2003-2015 CAGR 4.4%
It's perhaps more instructive to split this into two time periods:
2003-2008 CAGR 9.9%
2008-2015 CAGR 0.7%
The 2008-2015 time period includes a 10% salary increase moving from employer A to employer B, a 30% pay cut while at employer B, and a 25% salary increase moving from employer B to employer C.
2003-2015 CAGR 4.4%
It's perhaps more instructive to split this into two time periods:
2003-2008 CAGR 9.9%
2008-2015 CAGR 0.7%
The 2008-2015 time period includes a 10% salary increase moving from employer A to employer B, a 30% pay cut while at employer B, and a 25% salary increase moving from employer B to employer C.
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Re: How has your Salary performed against inflation?
I don't know how to calculate it on an annualized basis but my salary has gone up by about 80% over the last 5 years. That's a combination of big raises in the first couple years and a big jump on switching employers. Since then it's been a more modest 3.5% or so per year.
If you look at non-salary comp (stock) it's gone up an infinite amount.
If you look at non-salary comp (stock) it's gone up an infinite amount.
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It sounds like a lot of people who have answered the question are on the younger side. Lots of answers from people who graduated college and/or were in the earlier half of their careers. So it may not be raises but rather different positions and different jobs.MrNewEngland wrote:You guys have gotten some impressive raises.
Many people whose careers wound down during this time probably fell behind inflation.
Threads like this inevitably are unrepresentative because of who chooses to respond.
Cost of living definitely has to be considered. A nominal raise may represent a decline in purchasing power if it involves moving from a low cost area to a high cost area.gatorking wrote:My base salary has more than doubled since starting to work in 2000 but the number is quite meaningless since but it involved one move from low COL city to high COL city and another move from a company with better benefits and 401k match to one with worse match and benefits.
You also have to look at the tax rates.
Moreover, inflation varies by geography especially with real estate.
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SInce graduating college in 1994, the CAGR is 8.61% for base salary. However, as others mentioned, this isn't linear. I had two years of b-school where I didn't make a lot and another year of not working.
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I am a career Federal Government employee. This paycheck we will receive a whopping 1.3% "COLA" (Cost Of Living Allowance, though not really) raise for 2016 (and the way that 1.3% raise is calculated is NOT really 1.3%; rather, it's closer to 1.1%). We received a meager raise last year. The 3-4 years prior to that we received zero (however Congress chose to give themselves raises --- yay!!).
Against inflation? I don't even bother to look. And never have, honestly. I love my job, and i never complain about my pay nor my benefits, however zero to very small annual pay raises has always been a concern.
Against inflation? I don't even bother to look. And never have, honestly. I love my job, and i never complain about my pay nor my benefits, however zero to very small annual pay raises has always been a concern.
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I used to work for a water and sewer municipality and was in the same boat as you. I absolutely loved the work I did and was genuinely happy at my job. However since about '07 the largest raise we recieved was 1.5% and several years in there it was zero. Finally it got to the point that I was leaving too much money on the table. I got a new job that I started in August and got over a 30% raise along with other benefits I hadn't gotten before (including a 6% 401k match and being eligible for a 10% bonus).warrends wrote:I am a career Federal Government employee. This paycheck we will receive a whopping 1.3% "COLA" (Cost Of Living Allowance, though not really) raise for 2016 (and the way that 1.3% raise is calculated is NOT really 1.3%; rather, it's closer to 1.1%). We received a meager raise last year. The 3-4 years prior to that we received zero (however Congress chose to give themselves raises --- yay!!).
Against inflation? I don't even bother to look. And never have, honestly. I love my job, and i never complain about my pay nor my benefits, however zero to very small annual pay raises has always been a concern.
The new job doesn't give me quite the satisfaction as my old job but the pay is pretty nice. Overall I don't regret making the move.
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Here is our hourly wage schedule; Im not good at numbers, does this keep up with inflation?
8/1/15: 34.40
8/1/16: 34.80
2/1/17: 35.20
8/1/17: 35.70
2/1/18: 36.20
8/1/15: 34.40
8/1/16: 34.80
2/1/17: 35.20
8/1/17: 35.70
2/1/18: 36.20