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Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Rob54keep » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:18 pm

I was contacted by Vanguard today stating that the discount for TurboTax would not be available any more (starting with 2015). Anyone else have any info on this?

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Post by abuss368 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:29 pm

I may be incorrect but I thought there was a message earlier in the year on Vanguard's website.
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Post by RudyS » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:11 pm

I just looked on the Vanguard site and found nothing about this. I sent a note to my rep to find out. Will post results when I hear back unless someone else has already done so.

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Post by Fat-Tailed Contagion » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:26 pm

RudyS wrote:I just looked on the Vanguard site and found nothing about this. I sent a note to my rep to find out. Will post results when I hear back unless someone else has already done so.
I went to site and noticed the benefits are no longer listed.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by John151 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:07 am

Vanguard usually posts its TurboTax discounts in mid-December, so I wouldn’t expect to see any discounts posted before then.

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Post by gd » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:37 am

A recent thread about flagship customers had several posters, including me, note it as the only useful perquisite. Onward and downward New Vanguard!

Edit- perhaps partially unfair, since it's as likely Intuit is the obstruction here, such as raising prices to Vanguard after hooking us for a few years. But it would be nice if we simply knew, one way or the other, what they will be offering so we can get on with it. The less communicative a company is, the less interested I am in doing business with it.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by johnubc » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:44 am

TT is often available on Amazon - and if you get part of your tax refund via Amazon funds, you get a 10% boost. I cover the cost of TT via this method.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by SpartanFan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:01 am

When I asked my rep a week ago I was told the decision by VG had not been made yet.

If it is not offered -
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Post by pshonore » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:04 am

tommoran2 wrote:When I asked my rep a week ago I was told the decision by VG had not been made yet.

If it is not offered -
GoodBye TT
Hello TaxAct
Note that Tax Act has evidently adopted the same business model that TT tried last year, which is basically different features and forms in different versions. I find that difficult to understand after all the grief TT got when they tried that last year.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by rustymutt » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:19 am

Confirmed, they won't be offering discounts on TT this year. 2015
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Post by SpartanFan » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:44 am

Just spoke to VG. They will not offer the discount this year.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Boglegrappler » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:55 am

A buck is a buck, for sure, and free is good.

But the cost of Turbotax vs its benefit is one of the great bargains in life. I just buy mine every year. Costco and other places run specials on it usually.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by rustymutt » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:06 am

tommoran2 wrote:Just spoke to VG. They will not offer the discount this year.
I can also confirm this now. Just got off phone with Vanguard rep. They won't be offering any discounts this year.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Toons » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:11 am

TaxAct might be an alternative :happy

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by tennisplyr » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:25 am

Yes I received this email today:

Dear Valued Customer,

Last year, as a Vanguard customer, you received a special discount on your TurboTax product. Unfortunately, Vanguard decided to discontinue this TurboTax program.

As a result of Vanguard's decision, you will no longer be able to get TurboTax at a discounted price through Vanguard.com.

You may see TurboTax offered through Vanguard.com this year. However, using those links will not provide you a discount as they have in prior years. We hope that you'll continue to trust your taxes to TurboTax. You will still be able to download your Vanguard tax forms into TurboTax. In addition, we're pleased to offer you a discount of $10 off the TurboTax federal product of your choice. Take advantage of this offer now.

If you have any questions or comments regarding Vanguard's decision, please contact Vanguard at 1-877-662-7447.

Sincerely,

Your TurboTax Team
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by ThatGuy » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:45 am

I like TaxAct, it's much less of an annoying nanny than Turbotax. They've raised prices a bit this year.

https://www.taxact.com/tax-preparation/

If you're really stuck on TurboTax, USAA offers up to $20 off.

https://www.usaa.com/inet/pages/advice_tax_center_main

Of course, that's the same as Amazon or Costco.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Jimbandit24 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:55 am

Discount is available through Fidelity website..

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Post by bengal22 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:09 pm

tommoran2 wrote:Just spoke to VG. They will not offer the discount this year.
Just tell them that you are one of the owners and maybe they will cut you a deal.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by oneleaf » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:35 pm

I assume this means no complimentary version for flagship clients, either?

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by John151 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:46 pm

Many of TurboTax’s customers were angry about TurboTax’s a la carte pricing last year. Perhaps Vanguard’s clients complained to Vanguard about it, and perhaps Vanguard decided to pull the plug for that reason.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by John151 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:13 pm

Here’s what Vanguard says about TurboTax. This is from an email sent to Flagship clients today.

"Update for TurboTax users

Vanguard will continue to offer access to TurboTax® products to clients on our website, but we're discontinuing our discounted and complimentary offerings beginning with the 2015 tax season. During a recent review, we decided to align our offerings with Vanguard's core investment products and services.

Rest assured that you'll still be able to import Vanguard-generated tax forms into TurboTax through our website if you wish, and we'll continue to assist you with any technical issues that may occur when importing your forms. If you prefer to file your taxes online, we recommend that you go directly to the TurboTax website or another provider to obtain any available discounts."

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by runner26 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:55 pm

Well, no need to be a Flagship client anymore! The free TT was the only use I had in the Flagship level. I was a previous Tax Act customer, and now they will get me back, though their prices are up this year.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by sddiehard » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:05 pm

Please correct me if I read it wrong... TaxAct includes a state return (other than "free" product) in the download version, but is extra in the online version? Would expect it to be the reverse.

download: http://www.taxact.com/tax-preparation/

online: http://www.taxact.com/taxes-online/

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Post by furwut » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:40 pm

sddiehard wrote:Please correct me if I read it wrong... TaxAct includes a state return (other than "free" product) in the download version, but is extra in the online version? Would expect it to be the
Paul
Looks that way to me. I'll also note that Tax Act doesn't have a Mac download. So, for me, I'll have to compare their more expensive browser offering against Turbo Tax.

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Post by sddiehard » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:59 pm

furwut wrote:
sddiehard wrote:Please correct me if I read it wrong... TaxAct includes a state return (other than "free" product) in the download version, but is extra in the online version? Would expect it to be the
Paul
Looks that way to me. I'll also note that Tax Act doesn't have a Mac download. So, for me, I'll have to compare their more expensive browser offering against Turbo Tax.

furwut,

Thanks for the confirmation. Yes, seems Tax Act download doesn't support any other platform than Windows.

Also noticed Turbo Tax also includes the state in the download and not in the online version, although their pricing is different.

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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Van » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:24 pm

Yep, I got an email from Vanguard a few minutes ago indicated NO discounted or complimentary TurboTax for the 2015 tax year.

Bummer.

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Post by jonathan2001 » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:30 pm

I've gotten used to the discounted TT from Vanguard. I'd like to use the desktop version, but I'm flexible when/where I buy it. Any collective wisdom on when Intuit historically has discounts and via which channel? Amazon and Costco are obvious choices ... but I recently received "trial" DVD from Intuit which I didn't look at carefully but I imagine won't have a meaningful discount...

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jonathan2001 wrote:I've gotten used to the discounted TT from Vanguard. I'd like to use the desktop version, but I'm flexible when/where I buy it. Any collective wisdom on when Intuit historically has discounts and via which channel? Amazon and Costco are obvious choices ... but I recently received "trial" DVD from Intuit which I didn't look at carefully but I imagine won't have a meaningful discount...
Some time after April 15 but before the fall rush of filers, you can probably get a good deal. There might be good deals before April 15 but after that, retailers probably want to get rid of their inventory.
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Post by rendrag » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:53 pm

I've used [(removed) -- admin LadyGeek] the past couple years. The name sounds gimmicky, but I've been happy with it. They don't restrict access to any forms, it's all one-tier pricing (free federal and $12.95 state). It looks like they'll import prior-year TurboTax returns.

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Post by sddiehard » Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:44 pm

rendrag wrote:I've used [(removed) -- admin LadyGeek] the past couple years. The name sounds gimmicky, but I've been happy with it. They don't restrict access to any forms, it's all one-tier pricing (free federal and $12.95 state). It looks like they'll import prior-year TurboTax returns.
Looks interesting and it's all online. Will consider using it for 2015.

Thanks for sharing your take on FreeTaxUSA.

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Post by PaFromFL » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:49 pm

Jimbandit24 wrote:Discount is available through Fidelity website..
I narrowly chose Vanguard over Fidelity and the free Flagship TurboTax was the deciding factor. I'm tempted to switch to Fidelity to get the $2500 sign on bonus. I think I'll pass on the $20 TurboTax discount because I don't want want to give my credit card number to TurboTax.

In an ideal world, Vanguard would replace TurboTax (now operated by Somali pirates) with TaxAct.

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2015 TurboTax -- Vanguard discount gone

Post by winterescape » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:21 pm

Sadly I received this in my e-mail today from Vanguard. The days of subsidized or free TurboTax software appear to be over...

"Year End Tax information from Vanguard"

....
"Update for TurboTax users
Vanguard will continue to offer access to TurboTax® products to clients on our website, but we're discontinuing our discounted and complimentary offerings beginning with the 2015 tax season. During a recent review, we decided to align our offerings with Vanguard's core investment products and services.

Rest assured that you'll still be able to import Vanguard-generated tax forms into TurboTax through our website if you wish, and we'll continue to assist you with any technical issues that may occur when importing your forms. If you prefer to file your taxes online, we recommend that you go directly to the TurboTax website or another provider to obtain any available discounts."


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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by JWC » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:24 pm

I too leaned towards Vanguard due to the free TurboTax policy. The timing of this announcement is also bad. At worse, today's announcement should have been that this is the last year of the free TurboTax policy and to plan accordingly next year.

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Post by John151 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:01 pm

I’m still curious as to why Vanguard pulled the plug on TurboTax. Did Vanguard fear legal liability if a Vanguard client who used Vanguard’s discounts to purchase TurboTax later decided for some reason to sue TurboTax?

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Post by SquawkIdent » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:03 pm

rendrag wrote:I've used FreeTaxUSA the past couple years. The name sounds gimmicky, but I've been happy with it. They don't restrict access to any forms, it's all one-tier pricing (free federal and $12.95 state). It looks like they'll import prior-year TurboTax returns.
My return is fairly straight forward.

Has anyone else used FreeTaxUSA? TT charges $54.99, TaxAct charges $14.99 and this one is free. Opinions? Thanks. :sharebeer

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Post by LadyGeek » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:16 pm

I merged winterescape's post into here, which is in the Personal Finance (Not Investing) forum.
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Post by livesoft » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:41 pm

John151 wrote:I’m still curious as to why Vanguard pulled the plug on TurboTax.
With all the bad press that Intuit gets with TurboTax marketing and misinformation, why would Vanguard even want to be remotely associated with Intuit?

What if Vanguard increased the cost of all Vanguard Admiral funds a little bit for all Flagship members and then gave all of them a check for $50 to use to buy any tax software they wanted?
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Post by downshiftme » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:59 pm

Well, no need to be a Flagship client anymore! The free TT was the only use I had in the Flagship level. I was a previous Tax Act customer, and now they will get me back, though their prices are up this year.
I also find this quite frustrating. I switched from my longtime TaxACT use to TT, based on expectation that I would get this from Vanguard going forward. First year was a learning exercise. Last year was a challenge with the changes to forms and versions. This year, I'm apparently cut off and now get to fend for myself. I guess I've seen several deals online, but I feel like a sucker for making the switch to TT, only to learn that I should have stayed with TaxACT.

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Post by John151 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:01 pm

livesoft wrote:
John151 wrote:I’m still curious as to why Vanguard pulled the plug on TurboTax.
With all the bad press that Intuit gets with TurboTax marketing and misinformation, why would Vanguard even want to be remotely associated with Intuit?

What if Vanguard increased the cost of all Vanguard Admiral funds a little bit for all Flagship members and then gave all of them a check for $50 to use to buy any tax software they wanted?
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Post by gd » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:29 pm

John151 wrote:I’m still curious as to why Vanguard pulled the plug on TurboTax. Did Vanguard fear legal liability if a Vanguard client who used Vanguard’s discounts to purchase TurboTax later decided for some reason to sue TurboTax?
I think this sort of speculation is overthinking it. Vanguard's gone big time, the days of doing stuff on some sort of better principle are faded. They can't quantify the positive effect of it as clearly as the cost. Probably more importantly, there's no telling what Intuit has done on their end-- I'd assume they were offering a good deal for a few years hoping to hook high-end customers, and are trying to play in the line now.

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Post by fred9x » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:29 pm

Long time Vanguard TurboTax user.

What are the downsides to switching to TaxAct? $22 for 5 Fed e-files and one state.

Last year I did need TT Premier (now $70 on Amazon)for stock sales and MLP's.

I recall trying one, maybe TaxAct, that required downloading the brokerage info to Excel/cvs??

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Post by LadyGeek » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:45 pm

fred9x wrote:What are the downsides to switching to TaxAct? $22 for 5 Fed e-files and one state.
I switched to TaxACT 2 years ago and have no reason to go elsewhere.

The only downside is that you'll probably need to manually enter last year's tax info manually. However, you can easily copy-n-paste info from TurboTax's PDF export. Once that's done, it's a matter of getting used to the new software.

I think TaxACT easier to navigate, once you get over the learning curve. It's a more of a "plain vanilla" interface - functionality over fancy formatting. The Explorer-like forms view made it really easy to copy-n-paste info into multiple forms.
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Post by fred9x » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:57 pm

Thank you, Lady Geek!

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Post by fred9x » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:03 pm

"He who hesitates has lost."

I just went to the TaxAct site and found TaxAct Plus that was $22 is now $30.

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Post by tfb » Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:53 am

LadyGeek wrote:I switched to TaxACT 2 years ago and have no reason to go elsewhere.
TaxACT this year will re-attempt the forms-based forced pricing TurboTax tried and failed last year. The free version used to include all forms and schedules, only no import capabilities. Now it only includes simple forms. If you want Schedule D, the Basic version won't do; you have to use the Plus version. If you want Schedule C, you have to use the Premium version. The new price is catching up with that of TurboTax Deluxe, which includes all forms.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by rob » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:00 am

I know I'm in the minority but I think it's great Vanguard stopped supporting a company with the ethics that has been displayed in the TT products over a decade or more.
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Post by tfb » Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:13 am

rob wrote:I know I'm in the minority but I think it's great Vanguard stopped supporting a company with the ethics that has been displayed in the TT products over a decade or more.
Vanguard did not stop supporting Intuit.
Vanguard wrote:Vanguard will continue to offer access to TurboTax® products to clients on our website
Linking to another company's products from a trusted site is worth a lot of money. Intuit no doubt pays for it. It just means Vanguard will keep the referral revenue to itself instead of using it to subsidize free TurboTax to Flagship customers. Maybe Vanguard was upside down. Now it won't be.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by SpartanFan » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:52 am

tfb wrote:
LadyGeek wrote:I switched to TaxACT 2 years ago and have no reason to go elsewhere.
TaxACT this year will re-attempt the forms-based forced pricing TurboTax tried and failed last year. The free version used to include all forms and schedules, only no import capabilities. Now it only includes simple forms. If you want Schedule D, the Basic version won't do; you have to use the Plus version. If you want Schedule C, you have to use the Premium version. The new price is catching up with that of TurboTax Deluxe, which includes all forms.
For those of us that need Sched D -
The TaxAct (Plus) Download is 1/3 the price (30 dollars) of TurboTax Premier download (90 dollars).
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Post by livesoft » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:56 am

tommoran2 wrote:For those of us that need Sched D -
The TaxAct (Plus) Download is 1/3 the price (30 dollars) of TurboTax Premier download (90 dollars).
But one doesn't need TurboTax Premier for Schedule D nor Schedule C. I found TT Deluxe for $35 already. Note that this did not have a state return.

Now what would be good for me is if a place like BestBuy had different versions of the various tax softwares installed on computers in their stores, so that one could try them out in person and see what they actually provide.
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Re: Vanguard TurboTax - Not Available 2015?

Post by Fat-Tailed Contagion » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:14 am

What is the difference between TaxAct and FreeTaxUSA ?
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