Leif wrote:I'm waiting delivery End of Nov./Dec. I was told by my DS that I will be getting AP 2.0 hardware
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According to what I heard Elon say on the teleconference, you will. He said that all Teslas rolling off the production line now have the new hardware.
Leif wrote:I've also been told to expect a letter from Tesla soon regarding my options for AP. I did purchase AP (of course). Other than the use of additional sensors I don't yet see much functional difference for EAP (Enhanced Autopilot) to see what I'm getting for an additional $2,000. The additional $3,000 for self driving, which activates additional cameras, seems a ways off. I guess when I get the Tesla letter I'll be in a better position to decide to spring for the upgrades prior to delivery.
Since you'll have the new hardware, I think you'll be in the same boat as anyone else with the new hardware, except for the ordering/pricing. So my guess is that either Tesla will give you EAP with no additional charge, or you'll have the choice to kick in an extra $2K for it for drop it entirely.
Based on recent experience, I would guess the latter. Tesla forum users have said that when ludicrous mode was dropped from the 90D, the 90Ds they received did not have it even though they ordered it. I think they were offered an upgrade to 100D(L) for extra $$.
You may not have AP1 parity by November, but Elon says you should be December or shortly thereafter. Of course Elon is famous for over promising on schedules, which is why I'm holding off on submitting my P100D order.
I think I would go for self-driving to save the additional $1K to upgrade, but either way you'll be able to get it.
Leif wrote:
I'll let you guys know, if you are interested, what my letter/email says.
Yes please.
Leif wrote:I assume if I don't upgrade I will get the functionality promised when I purchase AP, which I believe should include "basic" Autopilot (ACC, lane keeping, lane changing with signalling, self parking, etc.).
Hmm, I kind of doubt it. You'll be on the new hardware with the 40X faster processor and the neural net learning, so I'd think you'll get whatever EAP is available. I guess Tesla could add code to limit the EAP to AP, but that seems kind of silly for a relatively small subset of cars.
Leif wrote:Right now AP, from what I've seen on YouTube, does not work too great on winding roads. Not sure if that is a hardware or software limiting issue.
Yes, that's my experience. AP works great even on reasonably winding highways, but once I get onto more winding roads I rarely let AP do much of the driving since it drives kind of like a drunk driver, but I still let it try some to contribute to fleet learning.
I think it's mostly a hardware limitation, since they can only do so much with the software without the additional cameras, better sensors, and higher processing power. I think we'll see AP2 pull ahead of AP1 fairly quickly after it reaches parity.
Kevin
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