Boglehead Hamburgers: Wendy's vs McDonalds
Boglehead Hamburgers: Wendy's vs McDonalds
Without getting too much into a food review -- I have come to the conclusion that Wendy's is a Boglehead style fast food provider as opposed to McDonalds
Wendy's generally has better, more attentive workforce and better prepared and presented food.
McDonalds workforce seems chaotic and offers uninspiring food (have you had a quarter pounder lately?)
In terms of value (as opposed to marketing) there does not seem to be a comparison -- McDonald's success is a bit mystifying to me. But, then again, the consuming public does not always act in their best self interest!
Wendy's generally has better, more attentive workforce and better prepared and presented food.
McDonalds workforce seems chaotic and offers uninspiring food (have you had a quarter pounder lately?)
In terms of value (as opposed to marketing) there does not seem to be a comparison -- McDonald's success is a bit mystifying to me. But, then again, the consuming public does not always act in their best self interest!
McD's has no item comparable to a Wendy's triple. Wendy's isn't a great-tasting burger like Five Guys, but it tastes as similar to real meat as McD's does. So taste is a wash and Wendy's wins Round 1 on sheer gut-fill.
Other good thing about Wendy's is that you have a choice of sides including chili or a not-bad baked potato. That's Round 2 to Wendy's.
Wendy's is also generally fa-a-r cleaner than a McD's. Every McD's I go to has spills all over the floor and sticky tabletops. Round 3 to Wendy's.
Other good thing about Wendy's is that you have a choice of sides including chili or a not-bad baked potato. That's Round 2 to Wendy's.
Wendy's is also generally fa-a-r cleaner than a McD's. Every McD's I go to has spills all over the floor and sticky tabletops. Round 3 to Wendy's.
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Re: Boglehead Hamburgers: Wendy's vs McDonalds
I choose to eat healthy and haven't had a burger from either place in years. A salad once or twicce a year from both and I did not find much of a difference in quality, price or the attentiveness of the workforce.brainstem wrote:Without getting too much into a food review -- I have come to the conclusion that Wendy's is a Boglehead style fast food provider as opposed to McDonalds
Wendy's generally has better, more attentive workforce and better prepared and presented food.
McDonalds workforce seems chaotic and offers uninspiring food (have you had a quarter pounder lately?)
In terms of value (as opposed to marketing) there does not seem to be a comparison -- McDonald's success is a bit mystifying to me. But, then again, the consuming public does not always act in their best self interest!
Re: Boglehead Hamburgers: Wendy's vs McDonalds
Don't you have it backwards?brainstem wrote:Without getting too much into a food review -- I have come to the conclusion that Wendy's is a Boglehead style fast food provider as opposed to McDonalds
Wendy's generally has better, more attentive workforce and better prepared and presented food.
McDonalds workforce seems chaotic and offers uninspiring food (have you had a quarter pounder lately?)
In terms of value (as opposed to marketing) there does not seem to be a comparison -- McDonald's success is a bit mystifying to me. But, then again, the consuming public does not always act in their best self interest!
On this board, I see lots of complaints about Vanguard's customer service (workforce) and website (presentation). I'm sure American Funds' agents are far more attentive, and several brokerages offer better presentation (see the many online brokerages discussed in other threads).
To the general public, Vanguard's "plain-vanilla" index funds are far less inspiring than, say, the "UltraShort DJ-UBS Crude Oil" ETF.
I eat a lot of fast food for breakfast and lunch. Could you repeat again what about Wendys vs McDonalds would supports Bogleheads? The terms chaotic and uninspiring just don't seem to be defining characteristics of Boglehead vs non-Boglehead.
However, I think Wendy's burgers are superior to McDonalds, I like their chili and Taco salads. But value? If you eat out a lot and money is a concern, then yes, McDonalds has a lot of value. You can thank them for the dollar menu.
What is not Bogleish about Wendy's? The damn line. Its supposed to be fast food. How difficult would it be to open an extra register instead of moving single file around that stupid movie theater barrier tape.
There are plenty of local places to grab a juicy burger at lunch, I'm looking for some speed, I've got to go back to work.
However, I think Wendy's burgers are superior to McDonalds, I like their chili and Taco salads. But value? If you eat out a lot and money is a concern, then yes, McDonalds has a lot of value. You can thank them for the dollar menu.
What is not Bogleish about Wendy's? The damn line. Its supposed to be fast food. How difficult would it be to open an extra register instead of moving single file around that stupid movie theater barrier tape.
There are plenty of local places to grab a juicy burger at lunch, I'm looking for some speed, I've got to go back to work.
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Re: Boglehead Hamburgers: Wendy's vs McDonalds
I can sum it up in one word; demographics. MCD pitches to kids from age 2 to 18. They then also grab an equal portion of the senior market as Wendys, due as much to their superior coffee as anything. Since the parents have to take the kids, the parents end up buying food too.brainstem wrote: In terms of value (as opposed to marketing) there does not seem to be a comparison -- McDonald's success is a bit mystifying to me. But, then again, the consuming public does not always act in their best self interest!
20 to 40 somethings grew up with MCD so they likely go between the two.
Wendys has no Happy meal or clown or toys or playground.
Then there is the fact that for every Wendys there are probably 3 MCD, so you get the convenience factor.
I do prefer Wendys and finds their food better and a much better value. I do not find the staff to be superior here in SW Florida, in fact just the opposite.
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I have ocasionally patronized McDonalds. I actually like the Angus Burger, the "shakes" (especially the one in the fall) and the fries. Price is low - BUT
I stopped on a trip recently and just stopped at McDonald's to get just a cup of coffee. While drinking my coffee, I turned over the mat on the tray and here were all the "nutritional" numbers. OUCH!!!
1090 calories for the breakfast with Pancakes BEFORE you add butter and syrup. 500 calories for large fries. LOTS of fat, calories and huge amounts of sodium. The Angus Burger was terrible for calories, fat and sodium.
I stopped on a trip recently and just stopped at McDonald's to get just a cup of coffee. While drinking my coffee, I turned over the mat on the tray and here were all the "nutritional" numbers. OUCH!!!
1090 calories for the breakfast with Pancakes BEFORE you add butter and syrup. 500 calories for large fries. LOTS of fat, calories and huge amounts of sodium. The Angus Burger was terrible for calories, fat and sodium.
I wouldn't consider either very Boglehead like. Both are low quality and unhealthy (though McDonald's takes the cake).
The Boglehead approach would be to buy the ingredients and make it yourself. For about the same price you can get significantly higher quality food that not only taste better but is healthier too.
If you are set on Fast-Food style burgers, at least Five Guys or In-N-Out is fresh and better quality.
The Boglehead approach would be to buy the ingredients and make it yourself. For about the same price you can get significantly higher quality food that not only taste better but is healthier too.
If you are set on Fast-Food style burgers, at least Five Guys or In-N-Out is fresh and better quality.
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Agreed. Nothing Boglehead about choosing between crappy and crappier.stives wrote:I wouldn't consider either very Boglehead like. Both are low quality and unhealthy (though McDonald's takes the cake).
The Boglehead approach would be to buy the ingredients and make it yourself. For about the same price you can get significantly higher quality food that not only taste better but is healthier too.
If you are set on Fast-Food style burgers, at least Five Guys or In-N-Out is fresh and better quality.
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Tough to beat McD All American Meal - hamburger, fries, drink and apple pie for $3.26 including tax.
Wendy's double stack is also an excellent deal.
The Wendy's in my area is poorly run and is not very clean. I prefer McD for this reason.
Wendy's double stack is also an excellent deal.
The Wendy's in my area is poorly run and is not very clean. I prefer McD for this reason.
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As far as eating and liking the food at McDonalds, I am OK with it. I like the shakes, the Angus burgers, wraps, fries, etc. The prices are very low for the "quality" of actually consuming the food.
The problem, in my view, is that the nutrition of almost all of it is toxic - fat, calories and sodium.
The problem, in my view, is that the nutrition of almost all of it is toxic - fat, calories and sodium.
In-n-Out beat the pants off both. No contest.
I live near a Wendy's and drive by it several times a day, and I can honestly say it has never occurred to me to buy anything there. I will sometimes go to the In-n-Out further away if I'm in the mood for fast food, or as a treat take the kids to McDonalds (quite a bit further away). But there's no reason I can think of to stop at Wendy's - the food is a little better than McDs but c'mon, it's not like it's actually good.
I live near a Wendy's and drive by it several times a day, and I can honestly say it has never occurred to me to buy anything there. I will sometimes go to the In-n-Out further away if I'm in the mood for fast food, or as a treat take the kids to McDonalds (quite a bit further away). But there's no reason I can think of to stop at Wendy's - the food is a little better than McDs but c'mon, it's not like it's actually good.
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I prefer McDonald's as a value offering. Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich is the best thing in fast food, but a bit too expensive.
Also, the McDonald's near me has Diet Dr. Pepper from the fountain, which is my favorite beverage. This puts it over the top of any other fast food for me.
Enjoy.
I prefer McDonald's as a value offering. Wendy's Spicy Chicken Sandwich is the best thing in fast food, but a bit too expensive.
Also, the McDonald's near me has Diet Dr. Pepper from the fountain, which is my favorite beverage. This puts it over the top of any other fast food for me.
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Hi,
I stopped eating any meat after reading this story and other stories about meat: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/healt ... l[quote]Ms. Smith, 22, was found to have a severe form of food-borne illness caused by E. coli, which Minnesota officials traced to the hamburger that her mother had grilled for their Sunday dinner in early fall 2007.[/quote]
I stopped eating any meat after reading this story and other stories about meat: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/04/healt ... l[quote]Ms. Smith, 22, was found to have a severe form of food-borne illness caused by E. coli, which Minnesota officials traced to the hamburger that her mother had grilled for their Sunday dinner in early fall 2007.[/quote]
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Boglehead? Wendy’s seems a lot more expensive (from my experience) than McDonalds.
(there aren’t many around me in convenient locations)
At the end of the day both are fast food.
I’ve always found the concept of “good service” amusing,
you’re typically dealing with teenagers making minimum wage.
(though the maitre d’ at my McDonalds is very good if you slip him a $20)
I always try and remember where I am.
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(there aren’t many around me in convenient locations)
At the end of the day both are fast food.
I’ve always found the concept of “good service” amusing,
you’re typically dealing with teenagers making minimum wage.
(though the maitre d’ at my McDonalds is very good if you slip him a $20)
I always try and remember where I am.
Thanks
SP-diceman
What is wrong with you people? The McDonald's cheesburger is one of the classic tastes of the century. I'd put it up there with Paella Valenciana, Tartar of Kobe beef, Imperial Beluga caviar, Belons oyster, Tarte Fine with scallops and black truffle, things like that.
I like Wendy's just fine, but you're talking semi-pro vs. the Big Show.
I like Wendy's just fine, but you're talking semi-pro vs. the Big Show.
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I never understood that. If you're into vegetarian food, why would you get something designed to look like and be eaten like meat? I'd get a good pasta dish or something.nvboglehead wrote:I agree! My healthy fast food alternative is Morningstar's Garden Veggie Patties, purchased at Costco in the 16 burger pack.Moshito wrote:VEGGIE BURGERS!!!!!
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The good veggie burgers don't taste anything like meat. They taste much better. I'm surprised more non-vegetarians don't eat them.EmergDoc wrote: I never understood that. If you're into vegetarian food, why would you get something designed to look like and be eaten like meat? I'd get a good pasta dish or something.
Back in the 90s when Wendy's had 99c Biggie 32oz drinks and 99c double stacks, they won hands down. At the time, McDonald's only had 29c hamburger, 39c cheeseburger on Tuesdays each week. Occasionally McDonald's would feature 2 Big Macs for $2, but that was infrequent.
In the 2000s, McDonald's fought back with $1 double cheeseburgers and Wendy's only had dollar menu with jr. bacon cheeseburger, side salad, baked potato, and small chili. It was a tie - sheer calories and volume vs quality.
SP-diceman said something about teenagers making minimum wage. That used to be the case in the 80s and early 90s. Now at all the fast food places I go, it seems to be adults working there. Except for Chick-fil-A still has a few teenagers once in a while. Pretty telling about the sad state of the current times.
In the 2000s, McDonald's fought back with $1 double cheeseburgers and Wendy's only had dollar menu with jr. bacon cheeseburger, side salad, baked potato, and small chili. It was a tie - sheer calories and volume vs quality.
SP-diceman said something about teenagers making minimum wage. That used to be the case in the 80s and early 90s. Now at all the fast food places I go, it seems to be adults working there. Except for Chick-fil-A still has a few teenagers once in a while. Pretty telling about the sad state of the current times.
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