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Postby Thetightfist » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:33 pm

What is a Boglehead beer? It should have good taste but it should be reasonable in cost, right?

What is the beer of choice for the Boglehead? Also, what is the beer of choice when splurging?

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Postby YoungLion » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:41 pm

I drink Ninkasi Total Domination IPA. One on Friday night and one on Saturday night. I don't drink during the work week.

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Postby DRiP Guy » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:56 pm

My personal top secret two beers:

* Yuengling - light, tasty, often the cheapest beer in the store. Not a lot to it, but an unoffensive refreshing summer brew. Go figure.

* Killian's Red - Often belittled just for being a Coors product, actually has good flavor, and again -- readily available and cheap.

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Postby dkdoy » Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:59 pm

Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.

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Postby DRiP Guy » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:02 pm

YoungLion wrote:I drink Ninkasi Total Domination IPA. One on Friday night and one on Saturday night. I don't drink during the work week.



$5.19/single 22 oz beer?

:shock:

http://www.northwestliquidgold.com/prod ... 22oz.html#

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Postby billern » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:03 pm

I buy good beer. Mostly small brewery beers from California (where I live). When I go to the store, I see which of my favorites beers are on sale and I stock up. At any given point I have 12 to 24 beers waiting to go into the fridge.

If I don't buy when on sale, most of the beer I drink is $8-10 on sale for a 6 pack. On sale, most of the time what I like is $6-7.

If figure, I'm going to drink alcohol, I might as well drink something I'm going to appreciate.

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Postby DRiP Guy » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:04 pm

dkdoy wrote:Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.


$11 a four pack?

http://www.thewinestop.com/dogfish-head ... inestop_en

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Postby snyder66 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:05 pm

Are you looking for a good value beer?

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Postby YoungLion » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:12 pm

DRiP Guy wrote:
YoungLion wrote:I drink Ninkasi Total Domination IPA. One on Friday night and one on Saturday night. I don't drink during the work week.



$5.19/single 22 oz beer?

:shock:

http://www.northwestliquidgold.com/prod ... 22oz.html#


About $3.99/bottle in the store . . . $38 for 12 in the local Costco. Not real Boglehead, but I don't drink that much and don't mind shelling out $6.33 a week for something I enjoy. Now if I could only find a $5000 watch . . .

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Postby XtremeSki2001 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:13 pm

DRiP Guy wrote:
dkdoy wrote:Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.


$11 a four pack?

http://www.thewinestop.com/dogfish-head ... inestop_en


Look at some of the other leading brewers like Russian River or Founders - $11 is a fair price for the 90 min IPA. Any Dogfish Head brews are good with me. I also like some Ommegang brews like the Three Philosophers Quadrupel. It has a somewhat better price point at ~$9 for a 24oz.

Beer is one thing I don't skimp on, but I would agree with your earlier comment that one of the best value beers is Yuengling.

Edit: My most recent pink up was the Bear Republic brewing companies Racer 5 IPA. Brewed in Cali all year round - at $9 for a 6-pack and 7% ABV it's a great value, IMHO. It's IBU is ~75, which is pretty inline with my tastes considering my #1 is Dogfish Head's 60 IPA, which ironically has a ~60 IBU.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/610/2751/?sort=serv&servT=7&start=0
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Postby Steelersfan » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:14 pm

Pabst Blue Ribbon at home (I'm obviously not a beer connoisseur), Yuengling when I go out.

When I travel to Germany, it's whatever brand of Weiss bier they have in the area.

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Postby woof755 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:17 pm

Beer, coffee, and wine (to a lesser extent, IMO) are not things to go all cheap-o with.

My beers:

Bass
Blue Moon or Leinenkugel wheat offerings
Sapporo
Pilsner Urquell
Shiner!

Have to agree with Yeungling, too. Comes in cans for poolside but better in glass!
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Postby woof755 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:20 pm

Visiting a friend in Hawaii in a week (a friend indeed!). Any beers there I shouldn't miss?
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Postby LadyGeek » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:21 pm

dkdoy wrote:Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.
You should try the Dogfish Head 120 min IPA, if you can find it. I think Dogfish Head is getting a bit too popular and dropping in quality, as I haven't been impressed with their latest stuff. The pumpkin ale was a disappointment.

Try Old Dominion or Weyerbacher (enable browser cookies). I really like any beer from Weyerbacher.

I would agree that Yuengling (enable browser cookies) is a good "Boglehead" beer. It's inexpensive, but not poor quality, and you won't be disappointed. Good value. As the oldest brewery in the US, it's also got a proven track record. They're only 75 miles from Vanguard.
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Postby XtremeSki2001 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:28 pm

woof755 wrote:Visiting a friend in Hawaii in a week (a friend indeed!). Any beers there I shouldn't miss?


Kona Brewing company (on the Big Island) distributes throughout Hawaii. Their Fire Rock Pale Ale is quite delicious - it's light and not too bitter, but still maintains a decent ABV at 5.9%.

Seeing that you like Yeungling (even though it's a lager) chances are you will like Kona's Fire Rock.

When you hit up the ABC store or wherever you get your beer - look out for Deschutes Brewery six packs. I found a few places (actually some in Kauai) that carried this beer (brewed in Oregon) and managed to pick up their Inversion IPA. It will be quite different than the beers you like, but Beeradvocate gives Deschutes pretty good ratings.
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Postby woof755 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:29 pm

LadyGeek wrote:They're only 75 miles from Vanguard.


I think this pretty much cinches the "Boglehead Beer" winner!
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Postby tj218 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 pm

1. Belhaven Scottish Ale
2. Guinness
3. Paulner Oktoberfest

Life's too short to save a buck on crappy beer.

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Postby woof755 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:31 pm

XtremeSki2001 wrote:
woof755 wrote:Visiting a friend in Hawaii in a week (a friend indeed!). Any beers there I shouldn't miss?


Kona Brewing company (on the Big Island) distributes throughout Hawaii. Their Fire Rock Pale Ale is quite delicious - it's light and not too bitter, but still maintains a decent ABV at 5.9%.

Seeing that you like Yeungling (even though it's a lager) chances are you will like Kona's Fire Rock.

When you hit up the ABC store or wherever you get your beer - look out for Deschutes Brewery six packs. I found a few places (actually some in Kauai) that carried this beer (brewed in Oregon) and managed to pick up their Inversion IPA. It will be quite different than the beers you like, but Beeradvocate gives Deschutes pretty good ratings.


Thanks! Great tips! I generally find a way to like almost any beer that finds its way into a frosty mug and my grubby mitts. (almost) I'm sure I'll enjoy Fire Rock!
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Postby XtremeSki2001 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
dkdoy wrote:Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.
You should try the Dogfish Head 120 min IPA, if you can find it. I think Dogfish Head is getting a bit too popular and dropping in quality, as I haven't been impressed with their latest stuff. The pumpkin ale was a disappointment.


I loved their pumpkin ale and haven't noticed a drop in quality - sorry you had a bad experience.

120 min IPA is only made three times a year - it will be for sale in May, September and December of this year.
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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:08 pm

Many Bogleheads are DIY investors. I'll suggest homebrew.

As a homebrewer:
1. I always try to have a large selection of different styles available-I emulate the market.
2. My beer is at least as good as the professionals, and it costs less-5 gallons of quality homebrew starts at $30.
3. I pay attention to my pipeline, making sure to make more if I am low, or to brew something new if I need to diversify.
4. Most people don't learn how, so they are very impressed with the results of my efforts.


Homebrewing: Indexing for beer snobs. 8)

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Postby XtremeSki2001 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:11 pm

Keim wrote:Homebrewing: Indexing for beer snobs. 8)


How did you learn?
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Postby mickeyd » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:14 pm

Any beer made in Shiner Texas.
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Postby tim1999 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:16 pm

If you ask some of the critics on the recent car threads, Natural Light or Milwaukee's Best. Preferably 5-year old cans obtained at a salvage sale after the local beer store burned to the ground.

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Postby LadyGeek » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:17 pm

Keim wrote:Many Bogleheads are DIY investors. I'll suggest homebrew.
As a homebrewer:
...
3. I pay attention to my pipeline, making sure to make more if I am low, or to brew something new if I need to diversify.

...Homebrewing: Indexing for beer snobs. 8)
According to #3, you are constantly rebalancing.

Indexing? For beer, searching for alpha puts active management in an entirely different perspective.
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Postby Jake46 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:18 pm

+1 for Shiner, especially Bock.

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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:36 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Keim wrote:Many Bogleheads are DIY investors. I'll suggest homebrew.
As a homebrewer:
...
3. I pay attention to my pipeline, making sure to make more if I am low, or to brew something new if I need to diversify.

...Homebrewing: Indexing for beer snobs. 8)
According to #3, you are constantly rebalancing.

Indexing? For beer, searching for alpha puts active management in an entirely different perspective.

Not really. Once I was properly diversified, I found I needed to "rebalance" about once every six months.

5 gallons=approx. 50 12 oz bottles. That lasts a while, esp. once you've brewed a few different styles.
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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:39 pm

XtremeSki2001 wrote:
Keim wrote:Homebrewing: Indexing for beer snobs. 8)


How did you learn?

I read a book by the John Bogle of homebrewing, Charlie Pappazian.

The Complete Joy of Homebrewing.

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Postby mortal » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:40 pm

Steelersfan wrote:Pabst Blue Ribbon at home (I'm obviously not a beer connoisseur), Yuengling when I go out.

When I travel to Germany, it's whatever brand of Weiss bier they have in the area.


+1

If you ask some of the critics on the recent car threads, Natural Light or Milwaukee's Best. Preferably 5-year old cans obtained at a salvage sale after the local beer store burned to the ground.


-2

I love PBR. Not only did it see my grandpa and uncles through 3 wars, it's actually not half bad and less than 8 bucks a 12 pack :wink:

I do buy yingling now and then for variety, or if PBR isn't available.

Oh, and I absolutely dont touch Natty or 'the Beast'. I *do* have standards you know. :roll:

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Postby 3CT_Paddler » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:43 pm

I agree with others on the Yuengling... great beer that isn't too expensive.

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Postby bstgeorge » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:59 pm

Cherokee8215 wrote:If you ask some of the critics on the recent car threads, Natural Light or Milwaukee's Best.


I drink Natty for the taste, not the cost. When it is really hot and you want to go tailgate or tube a river it hits the spot.

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Postby baw703916 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:05 pm

A mixture of everything in their market weights? Say 22% Budweiser, 7% Sam Adams, 3% Molson, 1% Guinness, etc...

:roll:

I personally would recommend a tilt, to take advantage of the DmL (dark minus light) premium.

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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:07 pm

baw703916 wrote:A mixture of everything in their market weights? Say 22% Budweiser, 7% Sam Adams, 3% Molson, 1% Guinness, etc...

:roll:

Brad


I'm a slice and dicer. I have a small beer cap value tilt.

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Postby Beantown85 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:09 pm

My go-to is Sam Adams.

Can't go wrong with Guiness though. Shiner Bock is great too.

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Postby baw703916 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:09 pm

Keim wrote:
baw703916 wrote:A mixture of everything in their market weights? Say 22% Budweiser, 7% Sam Adams, 3% Molson, 1% Guinness, etc...

:roll:

Brad


I'm a slice and dicer. I have a small beer cap value tilt.


That sounds like a good allocation.
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Postby yukonjack » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:10 pm

A tasty micro brew out of Ft. Collins, CO...Odell Brewing CO. Another good CO brew but with a bigger audience is Fat Tire. On a hot summer day I go with something a bit lighter such as Bud Lt.

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Postby KyleAAA » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:13 pm

Good beer and reasonably priced often do not go hand in hand. If I had to pick a nationally-distributed beer, it would be Sam Adams Noble Pils (Boston Lager would be a close second). I prefer micro brews myself. Most anything from Dogfish Head, Sweetwater, Fat Tire, or Left Hand would get my vote.

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Postby LadyGeek » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:15 pm

Keim wrote:I read a book by the John Bogle of homebrewing, Charlie Pappazian.

The Complete Joy of Homebrewing.
Not only read it, but it's bookmarked with numerous recipes that we've tried. Tilt whatever way you want.

Try the Cherry Fever Stout, use 20 oz. of dried cherries if you can't get fresh ones.

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Postby LadyGeek » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:18 pm

yukonjack wrote:A tasty micro brew out of Ft. Collins, CO...Odell Brewing CO. Another good CO brew but with a bigger audience is Fat Tire. On a hot summer day I go with something a bit lighter such as Bud Lt.
I thought that Fat Tire was too thin, and I've sampled the "real" stuff in CO and also cloned the recipe as a home brew. I use Bud light cans as target practice for my air pistol. Full.
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Postby westcoastinvestor » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:21 pm

Henry Weinhards Blue Boar Pale Ale or Private Reserve.

Shiner Bock when I want to splurge.

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Postby paulsiu » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:24 pm

Beers are really personal. I drink all kinds of beer and like the ones that have a bit of flavor. As a result, I tend to like either wheat beers or darker beers.

On the light side, Blue Moon is pretty good and easy to get.

When I lived out East, I always like Yuengling. It's one of the darker beers, but not to everyone's taste. Drink it cold since it gets skunky as it warms up. Now that I live out in the midwest I can't find it any more and people outside of the Eastern Seaboard thinks Yuengling is a Chinese beer. Currently, I drink Shiner Bock from Texas, which is kind of similar.

For foreign beers, I typically like Chimay. There's also a Candian beer that I order by accident I really like call La Fin Du Monde (end of the world).

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Postby fundtalker123 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:27 pm

billern wrote:I buy good beer. Mostly small brewery beers from California (where I live). When I go to the store, I see which of my favorites beers are on sale and I stock up. At any given point I have 12 to 24 beers waiting to go into the fridge.


Hi, can I come over to your place to "discuss index funds"?

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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:27 pm

LadyGeek wrote:
Keim wrote:I read a book by the John Bogle of homebrewing, Charlie Pappazian.

The Complete Joy of Homebrewing.
Not only read it, but it's bookmarked with numerous recipes that we've tried. Tilt whatever way you want.

Try the Cherry Fever Stout, use 20 oz. of dried cherries if you can't get fresh ones.

(Charlie Papazian.)


I just made one of his Bitters: Ruddles Bitter. Next on the list is a recipe from that book for a raspberry stout.

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Postby fundtalker123 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:29 pm

For simplicity, and to avoid having to choose which beer is best, I just drink a market cap weighted mixture of all beers, which I call "Boglehead Bock".

. . . Ah, yes, too late, already pointed out a short while ago.

In this case, I will stick with a 100% allocation to belgian.
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Postby Keim » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:29 pm

baw703916 wrote:
Keim wrote:
baw703916 wrote:A mixture of everything in their market weights? Say 22% Budweiser, 7% Sam Adams, 3% Molson, 1% Guinness, etc...

:roll:

Brad


I'm a slice and dicer. I have a small beer cap value tilt.


That sounds like a good allocation.

It gets a bit frothy at times, but I am comfortable with it.
:lol:

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Postby Brian2d » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:29 pm

Being a Boglehead means I have more money to spend on beer.

But yeah, Ninkasi IPA (had it for the first time here on the east coast) and Dogfish Head 90 are both awesome. For Belgian style, anything by Allagash rocks.

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Postby Sriracha » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:36 pm

So I'll take heat for this I know b/c this stuff isn't cheap but I'm just not the beer guy I was growing up (wine is the preference now) and if I get a beer for home now it's probably going to be Three Philosophers from Ommegang Brewery in Cooperstown. It's a "beer experience." Well, actually it's a mix of ale and lambic, but you know what I mean.

To make up for it I will say that my favorite beverage with caviar (that somebody else is buying) is Rolling Rock. Blows expensive Champagne and vodka right out of the water with those salty morsels!
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Postby jeff1949 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:52 pm

Corona is the one I keep going back to as long as I can get it reasonably priced at Costco. They had Samuel Adams at Costco yesterday so I picked up a case to try but all of our bridge night gang thought it was a bit too bitter.

Widmer Hefeweizen is decent and Deschutes makes a dark dessert beer with chocolate that is to die for but hard to find except at their brewery in Bend, OR.
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How about Bogle wine?

Postby Sheepdog » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:59 pm

How about Bogle wine? Boglehead beer? Not really, because I prefer wine. I can buy Bogle wine locally. I can say that I am on the Bogle bandwagon, but not the winery's Bogle Bandwagon (a wine club). http://www.boglewinery.com/wineclub_info.php I see that Indiana residents aren't eligible. Your's might be.
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Postby tludwig23 » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:17 pm

dkdoy wrote:Agree about Ninkasi, very good. However, my favorite is Dogfish head 90 min IPA.


+1

Also like the 120 minute IPA and Pliny the Elder from Russian River Brewery. None of those are cheap, but I have to do something with the thousand I save every year by not using a financial "advisor".

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Postby exigent » Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:23 pm

Another vote for Yuengling. And bonus points for its proximity to Vanguard. :)


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