Best Daily Newspaper for National (US) News
Best Daily Newspaper for National (US) News
I don't read opinion pieces so I don't care whether they bias left/right/up/down. Just wondering what people think is the best newspaper for national news, with coverage of important international events as well.
NY Times without a doubt. It has no peers. www.nytimes.com up to now, it's free.
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Greetings:
The Munchkin Man's all time favorite newspaper is no longer in print.
Fortunately, it is still available on the internet.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/
The editorials by Ed Anger were priceless.
Best Wishes,
Munchkin Man
The Munchkin Man's all time favorite newspaper is no longer in print.
Fortunately, it is still available on the internet.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/
The editorials by Ed Anger were priceless.
Best Wishes,
Munchkin Man
I like the WSJ.livesoft wrote:NY Times without a doubt. It has no peers. www.nytimes.com up to now, it's free.
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NYT is my paper of choice. But if this thread goes on too long, the differences between NYT and WSJ (or certainly Washington Post) will get it locked!
Financial Times has some great articles, and can be added to a Yahoo! home page.
Financial Times has some great articles, and can be added to a Yahoo! home page.
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Based on your criteria (i.e., skipping the op ed section), NYT is definitely the number one and the best source for national and international news for most U.S. residents.Jacobkg wrote:I don't read opinion pieces so I don't care whether they bias left/right/up/down. Just wondering what people think is the best newspaper for national news, with coverage of important international events as well.
NY Times, but on the internet I like the Drudge Report.
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My two favorites are Investor's Business Daily and Washington Times. IBD provides good overall national news coverage in their summary section and the Times has in-depth reporting you will not find elsewhere.Jacobkg wrote:Just wondering what people think is the best newspaper for national news, with coverage of important international events as well.
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The New York Times online.
A year ago I would have said the Wall Street Journal online. I have subscribed to the WSJ for over twenty years but I do not plan to renew again for three reasons:
IMO, there are less in-depth articles now than in the past- the WSJ seems to be moving in the direction of U.S.A. Today, etc.
Last year the WSJ advised me my online renewal rate would be increased by over 50 percent. After several phone calls involving multiple layers of their "customer service" bureaucracy they were kind enough to not increase my rate for one a year. If I renewed my subscription I would undoubtedly need to go through the same hassle again.
The most recent WSJ annoyance is the publisher's restricting some content to paid subscribers who have not "upgraded" (extract more money from subscribers who have already paid) to the "WSJ Pro."
JMO
A year ago I would have said the Wall Street Journal online. I have subscribed to the WSJ for over twenty years but I do not plan to renew again for three reasons:
IMO, there are less in-depth articles now than in the past- the WSJ seems to be moving in the direction of U.S.A. Today, etc.
Last year the WSJ advised me my online renewal rate would be increased by over 50 percent. After several phone calls involving multiple layers of their "customer service" bureaucracy they were kind enough to not increase my rate for one a year. If I renewed my subscription I would undoubtedly need to go through the same hassle again.
The most recent WSJ annoyance is the publisher's restricting some content to paid subscribers who have not "upgraded" (extract more money from subscribers who have already paid) to the "WSJ Pro."
JMO
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Unfortuately the line between news and opinion is usually invisible. If you think that by not reading the editorial/opinion page that you are getting the unfiltered facts you are usually sadly mistaken. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing as long as you go in with your eyes open and read multiple sources.Jacobkg wrote:I don't read opinion pieces so I don't care whether they bias left/right/up/down.
I read the WSJ and The Economist and peruse many others.
Have a plan, stay the course and simplify. Then ignore the noise!
If you can read this, then there really is no excuse not to get your news from several places.
OTOH, it is amusing to read how reporters take the same wire-feed and add/subtract their own spin. The BBC web site has links to other papers for just about every article, so you can read what the Pakistani press is saying about air strikes if you so choose.
I guess my point is that much of news comes directly from a press release and there is no analysis or checking of facts. You will already know this if you have been the subject of a news article: Most of the what is reported is simply overstated or worse: incorrect in detail. (Note to Taylor Larimorre:I did not use the word "always" )
OTOH, it is amusing to read how reporters take the same wire-feed and add/subtract their own spin. The BBC web site has links to other papers for just about every article, so you can read what the Pakistani press is saying about air strikes if you so choose.
I guess my point is that much of news comes directly from a press release and there is no analysis or checking of facts. You will already know this if you have been the subject of a news article: Most of the what is reported is simply overstated or worse: incorrect in detail. (Note to Taylor Larimorre:I did not use the word "always" )
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Hi lifesoft:
You are smarter than I am. I learned the hard way.
Note to Taylor Larimorre:I did not use the word "always."
You are smarter than I am. I learned the hard way.
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Absolutely,FrugalInvestor wrote:Unfortuately the line between news and opinion is usually invisible. If you think that by not reading the editorial/opinion page that you are getting the unfiltered facts you are usually sadly mistaken. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing as long as you go in with your eyes open and read multiple sources.Jacobkg wrote:I don't read opinion pieces so I don't care whether they bias left/right/up/down.
next time you read a major news story out of the Middle East in the NYT, go to the BBC or the FT and read the coverage of the same story.
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WSJ online (no longer subscribe, only the free article - though I was offered one year at $79 to resubscribe with a free $20 Amazon card).
NYT online - I stopped receiving the newspapers when I realized I already most of the articles by the time it arrived.
For fun, Onion.
Washington Times - read it a couple of times. Can't stomach a paper owned by Moonies.
NYT online - I stopped receiving the newspapers when I realized I already most of the articles by the time it arrived.
For fun, Onion.
Washington Times - read it a couple of times. Can't stomach a paper owned by Moonies.
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And don't forget one Jayson Blair!yobria wrote:New York Times - 104 Pulitzers and counting....
Nick
Livesoft do you really believe NYT really has no peer? I don't see the WSJ people making the same claim.... seems a little over the top if you ask me.
This thread is going to have a difficult time remaining unlocked, because it is one step away from political discourse.
It's kind of like asking... who's your favorite economist?... the answer will notify everyone what your political views happen to be.
If you like reading online, I like a news aggregator website like RealClearPolitics which carries articles from both sides of the aisle. I think WSJ and NYT are probably the top two national papers, depending on which way you lean politically.
Here's one more vote for the NYT. Started with Sunday delivery back in the late 1970s and I've been getting it daily since about 1982...
Single best newspaper in the world and as a friend once said, they have better sidebar articles in their magazine than most papers have in their front page stories.
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Single best newspaper in the world and as a friend once said, they have better sidebar articles in their magazine than most papers have in their front page stories.
RTR
Absolutely yes. I have plenty of time to read the news. I read the WSJ, the BBC news, the LA Times, WaPo, Boston Globe, my local paper, my local local paper, Reuters, Süddeutsche Zeitung, NPR, PBS, etc, etc. None of these publications can make the same claim. None.3CT_Paddler wrote:Livesoft do you really believe NYT really has no peer? I don't see the WSJ people making the same claim.... seems a little over the top if you ask me.
I'll say it again: The NY Times has no peer. I'll agree with you that the NYT and WSJ are the top 2 national papers.
All papers have a slant or bias. You just have to find it.
The Financial Times runs special sections each week on places like Russia. Not one story about the sudden giant tax bills against foreign investors that materialize out of nowhere. All kinds of "improving the rule of law" quotes.
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The Financial Times runs special sections each week on places like Russia. Not one story about the sudden giant tax bills against foreign investors that materialize out of nowhere. All kinds of "improving the rule of law" quotes.
Paul
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I am just saying that certain topics have a tendency to gravitate toward's politics... and this is one of them... regardless of the maturity of the members of this board. And the whole WSJ vs NY Times preference is really just a veiled vote on where your political allegiences lie.yobria wrote:I'd say this is a topic a mature adult could discuss without working himself into a political frenzy. If not, perhaps a vacation is in order...3CT_Paddler wrote:This thread is going to have a difficult time remaining unlocked, because it is one step away from political discourse.
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That's a reasonable response, even if I disagree. Curious what it is exactly about the NYT that makes it your unrivaled leader for US newspapers?livesoft wrote:Absolutely yes. I have plenty of time to read the news. I read the WSJ, the BBC news, the LA Times, WaPo, Boston Globe, my local paper, my local local paper, Reuters, Süddeutsche Zeitung, NPR, PBS, etc, etc. None of these publications can make the same claim. None.3CT_Paddler wrote:Livesoft do you really believe NYT really has no peer? I don't see the WSJ people making the same claim.... seems a little over the top if you ask me.
I'll say it again: The NY Times has no peer. I'll agree with you that the NYT and WSJ are the top 2 national papers.
I would ask the same question.3CT_Paddler wrote:That's a reasonable response, even if I disagree. Curious what it is exactly about the NYT that makes it your unrivaled leader for US newspapers?livesoft wrote:Absolutely yes. I have plenty of time to read the news. I read the WSJ, the BBC news, the LA Times, WaPo, Boston Globe, my local paper, my local local paper, Reuters, Süddeutsche Zeitung, NPR, PBS, etc, etc. None of these publications can make the same claim. None.3CT_Paddler wrote:Livesoft do you really believe NYT really has no peer? I don't see the WSJ people making the same claim.... seems a little over the top if you ask me.
I'll say it again: The NY Times has no peer. I'll agree with you that the NYT and WSJ are the top 2 national papers.
As a longtime and now retired journalist, I feel compelled to reply, at least from my own experience in the business.livesoft wrote:I guess my point is that much of news comes directly from a press release and there is no analysis or checking of facts. You will already know this if you have been the subject of a news article: Most of the what is reported is simply overstated or worse: incorrect in detail. (Note to Taylor Larimorre:I did not use the word "always" )
As for press releases, the news organizations I worked for (newspapers, broadcast, and wire service) used them - if they used them at all - as just a starting point to then assign to a reporter to develop; how much they would be developed depended on the quality of the release itself, the subject, and deadlines. If they could not be adequately developed, e.g., sources not available for verification or necessary background, etc., they either did not run at all or ran later when that information was available. As for wire service stories, some could be run as is, though they were always edited and some were further developed to add local angles. Did we make mistakes? Of course. And we worked hard to minimize them. Errors were an agony (and out there for all the world to see) and corrections were made as quickly as they could be caught.
There are bad apples out there, as in any business, but this is the world of journalism I knew and loved.
I am happy to oblige. But first, I don't think the newspapers I read necessarily tells you anything about my political leanings.3CT_Paddler wrote:That's a reasonable response, even if I disagree. Curious what it is exactly about the NYT that makes it your unrivaled leader for US newspapers?
NYTimes has a weekend magazine, WSJ does not.
NYTimes sends reporters to Iraq and Afghanistan. I am not aware that the WSJ does that.
NYTimes has special reporting on Health, Physical Education, College Education. WSJ does not.
NYTimes has special sport reporting. I don't think the WSJ does much sport reporting at all. Same goes for Science reporting and many other categories. For example, today's obit of Charpak in the NYT is great, but nothing in the WSJ.
NYTimes: Book section.
The NYTimes probably has more articles about the WSJ than vice versa.
I could go on and on and on. Now your turn. Please tell me why you think the WSJ is a peer of the NYTimes.
@Fallible, unfortunately and sadly, the journalism profession has fallen on hard times.
Local journalists are probably not paid well or they would be able to find people who can spell better and make complete sentences even if using software that does this for you. I'm sure the older journalists did a better job than the young folks nowadays.
If a reporter is any good, they end up working for the national media. And the national media does not need multiple reporters, so we are starting to get all our news filtered through less than a dozen people. My local paper doesn't send reporters anywhere anymore. They simply reprint stories from the NYTimes or AP or Reuters even if the origin is from their own backyard.
You can wish for the good ol' days, but the profession has changed.
Local journalists are probably not paid well or they would be able to find people who can spell better and make complete sentences even if using software that does this for you. I'm sure the older journalists did a better job than the young folks nowadays.
If a reporter is any good, they end up working for the national media. And the national media does not need multiple reporters, so we are starting to get all our news filtered through less than a dozen people. My local paper doesn't send reporters anywhere anymore. They simply reprint stories from the NYTimes or AP or Reuters even if the origin is from their own backyard.
You can wish for the good ol' days, but the profession has changed.
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The only point I can agree on here is the first - that journalism has fallen on hard times. And it is happening at a time when the country needs good journalism more than ever. Every time I read about more massive layoffs in the industry, I think of the stories that won’t be reported, especially investigative pieces that require more time, more staff, and larger budgets. And what the public doesn’t know, will hurt them.livesoft wrote:@Fallible, unfortunately and sadly, the journalism profession has fallen on hard times.
Local journalists are probably not paid well or they would be able to find people who can spell better and make complete sentences even if using software that does this for you. I'm sure the older journalists did a better job than the young folks nowadays.
If a reporter is any good, they end up working for the national media. And the national media does not need multiple reporters, so we are starting to get all our news filtered through less than a dozen people. My local paper doesn't send reporters anywhere anymore. They simply reprint stories from the NYTimes or AP or Reuters even if the origin is from their own backyard.
You can wish for the good ol' days, but the profession has changed.
Probably more accurate to say that a reflexive dismissal of the NY Times is a vote on where the dismisser's political allegiance lies.3CT_Paddler wrote:I am just saying that certain topics have a tendency to gravitate toward's politics... and this is one of them... regardless of the maturity of the members of this board. And the whole WSJ vs NY Times preference is really just a veiled vote on where your political allegiences lie.yobria wrote:I'd say this is a topic a mature adult could discuss without working himself into a political frenzy. If not, perhaps a vacation is in order...3CT_Paddler wrote:This thread is going to have a difficult time remaining unlocked, because it is one step away from political discourse.
Nick
The NY Times itself is just too good to objectively dismiss. Excellent writing, thorough coverage, etc. I happen to like the Wall Street Journal too.